CCP get him out... he and his corp are AFKing and making CPM a joke.

Give us 4447 reasons?

CCP get him out... he and his corp are AFKing and making CPM a joke.

There's a post of people seeing him doing it...fools.

CCP get him out... he and his corp are AFKing and making CPM a joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNsrK6P9QvI

The entire CPM wasn't elected so they shouldn't have any input that effects gameplay, just setting up how a player elected CPM will be elected should be their only job.

thats not our only job. Think as CPM as a test run for CCP and team true grit for working with such as system. The eve devs have been working with the CSM for 8 years now but the dust team has only just started with this system.

thats not our only job. Think as CPM as a test run for CCP and team true grit for working with such as system. The eve devs have been working with the CSM for 8 years now but the dust team has only just started with this system.

What's more of a joke that there's three betamax on the CPM.

Havent you heard;- IWS is leaving! Non factor but still leaving! That leaves 2 members from Betamax on the CPM.

Still... your point being?

Till you do something for the community you have no opinion in anything CPM related till it comes time to vote.

come now 4447 - Kain doesn't deserve a thread like this. Give Jenza one, I'd understand, but Kain? Just because his corp - which is open minded about all things and doesn't prosecute and judge people unlike SOME ONCE UPON A TIME TOP CORP - AFK's doesn't reflect him. Judge a man by his actions and his friends - sure - but also judge him by his merits. He's done more around here then any two top corps membership combined.

This thread brings me back though - remember that whole Kain getting effed by CCP and giving Shad credit fiasco? Good times.

Pretty sure he already stated that he disagree's with AFKing.

But honestly, do you expect CCP to remove him?

CPM is a joke and everybody knows...

stop licking betamax...

thats not our only job. Think as CPM as a test run for CCP and team true grit for working with such as system. The eve devs have been working with the CSM for 8 years now but the dust team has only just started with this system.

He says he disagrees yet a bunch of his corp does it and he has nothing to say to them. To me that is an empty statement from him. Just saying. Now hold up, let me go grab my flame shield.

Oh and I couldn't care less about his or anyone's status on the CPM.

Give us 4447 reasons?

I wouldn't have to rant if kain could run his house...

CPM is a joke and everybody knows...

Why should he? The imperfects are individuals. They are free to do whatever they want to do. As long as they can stick together and fight while keeping their egos in check nothing else matters.

Kain is not even the CEO of the imps. And neither is he their daddy.

He says he disagrees yet a bunch of his corp does it and he has nothing to say to them. To me that is an empty statement from him. Just saying. Now hold up, let me go grab my flame shield.

Oh and I couldn't care less about his or anyone's status on the CPM.

Well I'm not saying he should force them to stop. But he should make it publicly known that he encourages them to stop. That is all I'm saying.

It's just sort of silly right now that he's all "I do not agree with this" but at the same time "Hey y'all it's perfectly cool if you do this."

Would it be a joke if your beloved leader Zion Shad was on it?

I'm betting this rhetoric would be dialed down if so... otherwise daddy might spank you.

Pretty sure he already stated that he disagree's with AFKing.

But honestly, do you expect CCP to remove him?

CCP Shouldn't remove Kain from CPM, They should remove Kain from the Imperfects.

Filler? Got nothing intelligent to contribute so you just say what you wanna say?

If he told us what to do it would go against what makes the imperfects so great - individuals who can be themselves. The chemistry in game is so damn great because of ideals like his and I would rather see him torn from CPM and continue his great values then to change to satisfy some butt hurt QQ'ers complaining about his corp mates and not him.

Also - his CPM position isn't a reflection of his corp - so why is it even being brought up?

Why the Betamax hate again?

Don't you find it odd that 3 betamax are on the cpm.

I'm glad I got kicked from your corp

Don't you find it odd that 3 betamax are on the cpm.

I'm glad I got kicked from your corp

Ok. Good point. How would you encourage a bunch of highly skilled players to stop AFKing? If you have an answer to that question please do us know.

Anyways its easy to pick out 1 negative than see the 99 positives. I highly recommend that we focus on the 99 positives.

Don't you find it odd that 3 betamax are on the cpm.

Dude.

You got kicked???

When? Why?

I'm not saying he should do something encouraging enough that actually gets that to stop, but that if he at least made an attempt it would give more weight to his stance on AFK farming.

And I completely agree about the 1 negative to 99 positives. Kain has done plenty good for the community and I'm not trying to attack him. But we shouldn't close our eyes to anything that goes on.

Instead of crying give ccp info on how to fix it..you don't like my idea then lets hear yours or do you just wana cry some more?

I'm glad I got kicked from your corp

Hahaha, oh my goodness so much PR/political fluff stuffed in one statement. Look again I'm not saying he should force y'all to stop or be removed from CPM, I'm not that stupid. But everyone with half a brain knows that AFK farming is not the way this game should be played and that has nothing to do with letting everyone be individuals and building chemistry. Come on, man.


All I came in here to say is how empty Kain's official stance towards this subject is. That is not supposed to be an insult or anything of that nature against Kain or the Imperfects. In complete honesty his stance matters not because CCP already confirmed they are working towards eliminating AFK farming.

AFKing

Cool beans bro!

Not crying,just voicing...

lol I get ya - and my post really didn't mean to seem PR xD

Keep good

Voicing what? Tell them how to fix it or there is nothing to fix lmao

CCP get him out... he and his corp are AFKing and making CPM a joke.

Seriously? Of all the stupid reasons!

Yea talk to imps in a real manner?

Your joking right?

You can lie about me being a supporter of AFK until you are blue in the face. I think that any game mechanic that promotes people not fighting once they are in a match needs to be eliminated and that includes AFK sp.

So 4447, try to keep better up to date.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=529448#post529448

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=529493#post529493

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/307170582196264960

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/299262822389530624

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/299192855484850179

http://redd.it/180sk8

People not fighting in matches is bad, but I don't condemn people for going AFK. If a system rewards someone for an action they will take that action. To solve the problem you need to remove the reward. I actually blew up Sota Pop when I found him AFKing in the MCC during my last stream for TheMittani.com

You can lie about me being a supporter of AFK until you are blue in the face. I think that any game mechanic that promotes people not fighting once they are in a match needs to be eliminated and that includes AFK sp.

So 4447, try to keep better up to date.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=529448#post529448

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=529493#post529493

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/307170582196264960

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/299262822389530624

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/299192855484850179

http://redd.it/180sk8

People not fighting in matches is bad, but I don't condemn people for going AFK. If a system rewards someone for an action they will take that action. To solve the problem you need to remove the reward. I actually blew up Sota Pop when I found him AFKing in the MCC during my last stream for TheMittani.com

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Well you have just disqualified anyone who coudl potentially be a CPM. There is no player that is connected to Dust that is not in or in charge of a corp that has members that AFK.

CPM is a joke and everybody knows...

Ok. Good point. How would you encourage a bunch of highly skilled players to stop AFKing? If you have an answer to that question please do us know.

Anyways its easy to pick out 1 negative than see the 99 positives. I highly recommend that we focus on the 99 positives.

I want no part in this pointless argument. I just wanted to say the following bolded statement is not true:

Just because all IMPs AFK doesn't mean everyone else does too.

If all imps do then everyone else does to

This what i mean, joke...

Kain you staying in CPM is making it a joke leave ...

If you get voted back in im ok with it.

Kain you staying in CPM is making it a joke leave ...

If you get voted back in im ok with it.

I'm not saying this because I'm a part of imp, I'm saying this because you're an idiot:

you're an idiot.

how do you think CCP came to the decision of who should be on the CPM? Didn't you read the dev blog / announcement?

and so what if he AFKs or not? are we not still in beta? Thus the point is to break the game.

He can play his game however he wants as long as CCP provides the means. Welcome to New Eden, here is a QQ Tshirt, now get on with your life.

I'm not saying this because I'm a part of imp, I'm saying this because you're an idiot:

you're an idiot.

how do you think CCP came to the decision of who should be on the CPM? Didn't you read the dev blog / announcement?

and so what if he AFKs or not? are we not still in beta? Thus the point is to break the game.

He can play his game however he wants as long as CCP provides the means. Welcome to New Eden, here is a QQ Tshirt, now get on with your life.

This what i mean, joke...

This what i mean, joke...

Funny thing is, you wouldn't say that to my face...

Why the Betamax hate again?

Don't you find it odd that 3 betamax are on the cpm.

As much as I hate all the AFK farming that goes on I do admire how seriously the Imperfects are taking Dust 514, gives me a good feeling for how awesome it's future will be!

how is that funny? I find it funnier you want things said to your face when you can just read it right now.

ZTCD has really been going down a gutter lately. First you kick all your top vets - then you accept a CB with me and backdown with no word of warning - and now your on the forums spitting off morality like you guys know what you're talking about.

It's really sad to see my old corp go down the shitter so hard - good times, though those good times were in the past.. though it had nothing to do with ZTCD's leadership - but the members... who all left or got kicked over nothing. lol

Sort your house...
Your a joke and imps are a joke. Giving me all these links but i can get links of your guys afking.

I have no backing from zion...

I've already asked for my Kain AFK thread to be locked after someone necro'ed it three months later, I'm debating removing the AFK video because anti-kane and anti-Imperfect zealots are using it in every other thread.

It was meant to bring the issue into the mainstream of the forums by using a big name in the community. The issue was being mostly ignored or played down with no official comment from CCP. Two days after the Kain thread exploded it was in the notes of things they were looking to fix.

Kain has probably done more to fix AFK'ing in this game than anyone else. Not only that his AFK in my video was what got the issue onto CCP's patch notes.

Pretty sure he already stated that he disagree's with AFKing.

But honestly, do you expect CCP to remove him?

I have finished my popcorn :(
Every man and his sister is allowed to vent in their own way but why the personal attack? After meeting with all the CPM I have been persuaded that there isn't one person on that board that doesn't deserve the role they have been given. Kain in particular has some very interesting ideas; as for the imperfects in general, they have the same goals as everybody just sometimes are a tad twisted. Each member genuinely has something different to provide to the team even though it doesn't look like it from the outside. I can assure you that the ego's they show in game are not the ones they show when working on the CPM.
44 if you need to chat then I am all ears and like I said, say whatever you want but keep names out of it.

kain is the face of imps. His at fault not anyone else.
Kain step down and do the right thing.

Hmm.... Testers Tournament: Undefeated, Eve/Dust Fanfest 2013 Tournament: Undefeated (oh thats right Zion guys were on the team People With No Friends that lost)

Looks like the house is in pretty good order. My guys may do things you don't like, but people always like to whine against the people they can't best on the field. When you need to actually win some PC, our guys will be happy to ring for you for the right price.


That said the Zion guys were a blast to hang out with and have a beer with.

Osy! :D You need to post around here more. :D

Good job on the back down...

Good job on the back down...

Haha SoTa, missing your dude. Meh I am definately a listen and watch dude, don't have the trash talk skills as some of you do on here ;)

Hmm.... Testers Tournament: Undefeated, Eve/Dust Fanfest 2013 Tournament: Undefeated

Looks like the house is in pretty good order. My guys may do things you don't like, but people always like to whine against the people they can't best on the field. When you need to actually win some PC, our guys will be happy to ring for you for the right price.


That said the Zion guys were a blast to hang out with and have a beer with.

Funny thing is, you wouldn't say that to my face...

Dude this thread is epic!

Dude this thread is epic!

Funny thing is, you wouldn't say that to my face...

I cant speak for the captain, however if you ever come to fanfest i will happily call you an idiot, sir.

Now hold your horses right there, Kain! It's a one thing to try to weasel out of the "Sperogate", and I get that, most people would have done the same thing. I let that slide. But do I understand you correctly that you are basically trying to take all the credit of winning that little Fanfest tournament, bro?

I slap beasts, and you are one.

I cant speak for the captain, however if you ever come to fanfest i will happily call you an idiot, sir.

I've already asked for my Kain AFK thread to be locked after someone necro'ed it three months later, I'm debating removing the AFK video because anti-kane and anti-Imperfect zealots are using it in every other thread.

It was meant to bring the issue into the mainstream of the forums by using a big name in the community. The issue was being mostly ignored or played down with no official comment from CCP. Two days after the Kain thread exploded it was in the notes of things they were looking to fix.

Kain has probably tried to do more to fix AFK'ing in this game than anyone else.

Not only that his AFK in my video was what got the issue onto CCP's patch notes.

#onlyproductiveAFKer

Nah, the Negative-Feedback did their part as did Chronos. It was one hell of a team. One lessoned was learned though: never give Telc multiple cases of beer right before a bunch of Dust panels. Turns out most of the Betamax guys don't drink, so we had our work cut out for us.

Ended up sharing victory beer at our flat that night with the Zion guys.

It's funny really because some people agree with me...fool.

every AFKer is productive tho, cause we are all doing something else

every AFKer is productive tho, cause we are all doing something else

Well I mean productive for the Dust community, you masterbating isn't productive for anyone

Well you have just disqualified anyone who coudl potentially be a CPM. There is no player that is connected to Dust that is not in or in charge of a corp that has members that AFK.

Seriously needs a fix though, but dang if that isn't funny.

Oh really?

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Jenza you sir are a wookie..

I dunno man, there's a market out there for everything ya know.

Coming for you on May 15th TUNA... prepare to be gutted.

how embarrassing.

You can lie about me being a supporter of AFK until you are blue in the face. I think that any game mechanic that promotes people not fighting once they are in a match needs to be eliminated and that includes AFK sp.

So 4447, try to keep better up to date.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=529448#post529448

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=529493#post529493

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/307170582196264960

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/299262822389530624

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/299192855484850179

http://redd.it/180sk8

People not fighting in matches is bad, but I don't condemn people for going AFK. If a system rewards someone for an action they will take that action. To solve the problem you need to remove the reward. I actually blew up Sota Pop when I found him AFKing in the MCC during my last stream for TheMittani.com

Also, the end result of the communities hard work to combat AFK sp.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=569001#post569001

No! The Alpha and Omega. Kain and Jenza are the only 2 CPMs I respect. The rest can kiss my ass!

Seriously needs a fix though, but dang if that isn't funny.

"Negative Feedback was happy to merc for Chronos. Give us payment and we'll make you champions."

This got some play in the forums while you were at fanfest, it was taken out of context because of all the Imperfect troll threads talking about how Imperfects just won for Betamax.

LOL this. Best reply tonight, laughed so hard

Well here's the thing, though, and I'm gonna hit you guys with some off topic here cause you know me: I don't give a ****! See I agree 100% the little CRONOS/Negative-Feedback team was great, but I have to be honest here, and I did talk about this to the CRONOS dudes too, because I feel like 2 clearly strongest teams teaming up like that... Well let me put it this way, I wish either one of the teams would have gone balls out and said "Let's make it interesting, we can beat those sons of bitches!" and I don't care which team would have done that. I know I would have gone balls out had I been there. I mean let's call spade a spade here: It was a ***** move from both alliances!

Yes, let's also take away every SP gained from abusing the V-Laser, mountain glitch, Flux glitch, and shield glitch as well. I agree to fixing the system, but removing the SP gained from each individual just because you thing AFKers don't deserve it, is coming off as being ridiculously butthurt.

they where not really a team, they where really just 4 random dudes and we had 4 spaces.

6 pages in before we realized it was a troll thread. This guy deserves forum warriors status

CRIBBA IS THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD! HE AFKS! IM ADDING HIM TO THE LIST!!!!!!!

<3

Ended up sharing victory beer at our flat that night with the Zion guys.

So you really want to fix AFK farming?

It's simple, don't award points for time spent in battle.

Problem solved.

This game is already holding the hands of players who aren't playing by awarding them passive SP for simply existing. Giving even more points for time spent in battle is simply redundant. The only difference between the two types of passive SP is that one of them consumes more electricity.

I've already told you guys what happened, the dude was caught AFKing his pants down in the MCC...

Remove them all and have an election.

More importantly...are we really able to take our pants down in the MCC? Every time I try the map screen comes up.



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Alright, guys, time for some real talk. Now everyone who's been following my posts for the last few days that I hate AFK farmers and trolls with a passion. That's because of the type of person I am. You guys also know that I've had a couple of high profile confrontation here on the official Dust 514 forums with the local well known trolls for speaking my mind on the matter. So I'm gonna give you my take on this whole "Sperogate". That's how I like to call it.

I've already told you guys what happened, the dude was caught AFKing his pants down in the MCC and he's trying to weasel out of it with a beautiful political move. Essentially saying "I was testing things out for the greater good". I don't buy it, no big deal guys, because the fact of the matter is that the dude has turned over a new leaf and is now against AFK farming, at least on the surface. I mean if Obama was able to won the Nobel price just by talking, I'm willing to give this guy a chance. Now as far as Spero's questionable affiliations... well I can only wish they'd clean up their act and stop antagonising the Dust 514 community. Peace out!

This seems like the solution at face value, but then you take into account folks like dropship pilots that go 0/0 or players new at the game that get curb stomped with a 0/8 and the solution becomes less elegant.

***** please. You blued up with the rest of EU so you wouldn't have to fight in PC. That's no different to AFK;ing in pubs, except many people do it because they're bored of the game not because they're bad at it.

CRIBBA IS THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD! HE AFKS! IM ADDING HIM TO THE LIST!!!!!!!

<3

I liked the "say it to my face" post - I bet he was swinging dat keyboard like conan.

4447 - when everyone says you are wrong, what else do you need to be told to convince you, you are the elephant in the room?

I'm a nice guy, but when I see other nice guys being called out for the sake of a darwin award, I'm quite happy to present them the trophy.

There were people who AFKed their entire term on the CSM and did nothing for the EVE community. Don't think anyone will be booted here

shut up scrub, the average ***** size of this thread just went down with your post.

shut up scrub, the average ***** size of this thread just went down with your post.

It must be sad to hate Imperfects this much?

As far as I know several of the others AFK as well, or at least their corp does, but yet you just target Kain? Who has openly stated AFKing isn't ideal?

shut up scrub, the average ***** size of this thread just went down with your post.

http://cheezburger.com/7414955776

Noob.

Shad owns your scruba$$

Yeah, Fun times!

Next time we arm wrestle, I'm not going to be so honourable though!

Idk why they didnt continue it up till Monday DT. Because in a way it is pretty crappy of them to end it in a way that makes it impossible for alot of people to get that extra 1mil SP. Because you know, things like jobs and stuff like that kinda get in the way. And you know how they feel about us people with jobs, we are the reason for this ******** cap in the first place. So CCP... why did you end this event during the week and not after a weekend since one of your main interest is to keep us working people happy by capping those who live off of welfare?

Anyone who disagrees is a no life basement dweller who only rides in tanks and uses AR/Laser Heavies... and lives on welfare an buys candy and cigarettes with food stamps.

Funny thing is, you wouldn't say that to my face...

Shad owns your scruba$$

Wanna back that up with a high isk payout CB? Didn't think so, nothing to see here, move along.

Whatever, fluffy...

CPM is a joke and everybody knows...