What differnce does it make? we're all in the same boat, the SP costs apply to us all. Now it just means you have to ACTUALLY play to EARN your top tier stuff. People are making the tactical error here in thinking CCP just wants a pure FPS game.

Too many people have become comfy with games like COD where the prospect of having to earn something is beyond people. In comparison to EVE, the game this game was made to support doesn't have active SP, so be happy you even get that.

So it's harder to get your toys, on other FPS games I don't beleive people kick off because they have to wait a bit longer to get their next gun.

But if the idea off earning your gear is too much I'm sure that copy of COD or KZ collecting Dust on your shelf will be happy to take you back.

Here's the problem: it upsets the veterans who have worked for months to get this gear and it makes this game even harder for new players bc itll take 4 months to get proto gear.

I think it's good that proto stuff is harder to get.

Proto suits are the best of the best on the market, it makes sense that you need a good amount of time and specialization to get it.
You think that takes time? Start a new eve account and train for a titan. THAT requires time

eve is not a FPS, when eve becomes a FPS this might hold water to this idea till then its means nothing.

so you support AFKing and why people AFK and feel like it should actually empower AFKing.

I actually agree, considering they're both MMOs.

I think you're forgetting that.

I'd be up for CCP takin passive SP away and leaving only active, so you only get literally what you earn through play. AFK'ers are kicking over CCP's sandcastle as they build it

Here's the problem: it upsets the veterans who have worked for months to get this gear and it makes this game even harder for new players bc itll take 4 months to get proto gear.

Here's the problem: it upsets the veterans who have worked for months to get this gear and it makes this game even harder for new players bc itll take 4 months to get proto gear.

but you feel luck that we even get active sp... are you confused or do you just not understand what you said until someone point out how wrong of a statement it really was. which side are you on?

Hello don't ignore my post. You are only going to able to train 30% of the total number of skills in dust, if you start now and play untill you die an old man in a hospital. Have you people lost it ???

Dropsuits should be sp cost x4 at most. Keeping dust at no more than 20 years of skills should be a god damn poster in the dev offices. I'm sickened, this better not still be around in 2-3 months becuase after testing the new build you won't he seeing wasting my time

Btw 40 years of hitting the cap every week with boosters is 20880 hours of gametime to unlock all the dropsuits. Also 10400$ of boosters

This is not counting any weapons or other skills you might want

Dont see why anyone will want to get all protosuits , lets hope atleast in uprising you get more sp in matches

Here's the problem: it upsets the veterans who have worked for months to get this gear and it makes this game even harder for new players bc itll take 4 months to get proto gear.

so you support AFKing and why people AFK and feel like it should actually empower AFKing.

There are now 80 years of skill training in dust 514 and it will increase to 160 very soon. That is... with boosters.... sigh....

It takes 40 years to max out all 24 proto type suits across every race.

To note, it only takes 177 days from a fresh account to max into a titan . Meaning you could max out all 4 titans skills before maxing out three dropsuits. I literally give up, for real, I'm not playing this game if this is the plan .

Also CCP has stated from the begining that in Dust there will be at least years 7 years worth of skills, so everybody knew what he was getting into...

Sorry didn't mean to seem rude didn't see ya post bud. I see what your saying, it may take awhile to get ALL proto suits but why would you? CCP is trying to make players specialise in a set role, meaning you can't hybrid class yourself without penalty. Dust we actually play to earn our SP, where as in EVE you have to wait pretty much.

I'm assuming you taken into account that Dust gives active and passive SP as well as throwing in holidays where we can earn more. Where as EVE you only get passive sp. How did you come to your conclusion btw, did you use weekly caps as a basic ref and worked out how long it'd take literally to get Proto on all suits?

The game is harder now for new people becuase of the so many people that are in protosuits now this actually gives them a fighting chance because there will be so little people in proto gear, its that simple , people see soething and they go straight for the negatives without thinking about the positives thats the problem

If the rumored numbers are right and my calculations are correct, then it should take about 3 months to get a full specialized proto suit (without boosters). I know that's longer than now, but I think that's a pretty fair amount if time. They're the best equipment in the game, it should take a while to get them and you shouldn't expect to be able to get them all in my opinion.

That was with the old system, this new one takes 40 years

what veterans? you mean the kids that came from MAG & COD?


afking will be resolved sooner or later.


you dont have to max out every skill to level 5 unless you absolutely need it to unlock something. you only do this if you dont have anything else to go for (his is also true for eve online). lvl 4 to lvl 5 is only minor difference in performance but needs huge amount of SP.

also I dont see having alot of stuff to work for as a bad thing actually.

Just a little over 4 months , 24 protosuits will be aviable to train for when all racial suits are released.

There's no way they're that cruel.... right?

You dont have to get all protosuits dude

Might want to start adding your PSN account sign in on to your will guys. Maybe my great, great grandchildren will get all the Minmatar suits maxed for me.

I'm not spending 2 years to get four of them !!!! That's with 500$ of boosters.

Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.

Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.

Vocal majority is not the majority.

Sorry didn't mean to seem rude didn't see ya post bud. I see what your saying, it may take awhile to get ALL proto suits but why would you? CCP is trying to make players specialise in a set role, meaning you can't hybrid class yourself without penalty. Dust we actually play to earn our SP, where as in EVE you have to wait pretty much.

I'm assuming you taken into account that Dust gives active and passive SP as well as throwing in holidays where we can earn more. Where as EVE you only get passive sp. How did you come to your conclusion btw, did you use weekly caps as a basic ref and worked out how long it'd take literally to get Proto on all suits?

I'm honestly fine with the suits costing 10 X SP since they have those passive skills now, it's those stupid basic suits that I just don't understand!

X10 is saved for capital ships. The skill multiplier is that high because you need to control a crew of 1000s on a ship the size of a large city.

This is to get 10% faster reload. In 6 months.

X10 is saved for capital ships. The skill multiplier is that high because you need to control a crew of 1000s on a ship the size of a large city.

This is to get 10% faster reload. In 6 months.

10x is only 2xs higher than what we currently have, and still less than tanks. I don't really care.

A whole 621,840 more SP. So, about three weeks. Whooooooooo..........

A whole 621,840 more SP. So, about three weeks. Whooooooooo..........

Its 5.5 million sp to get one proto suit, that is 6 months .... Even tech 2 battleships don't take that long

dear lord do you even think that sounds like something anyone would want to do?
half a years worth of grinding later i was able to get

+1hp per sec to my repair rate
and
a new suit

thats like playing battlefield 3 for half a year and finally!!! i went from level 5 to 6 yay now i can use the sks... totally worth half a year.

You know what's scary ? People on here want it. They think they do at least. Maybe its just the time of day lets bump this **** in the morning.

so your thinkin this too?
for a sec i thought i was the only one thinking like a normal person with a life outside of dust.