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crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:10:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Here's the problem: it upsets the veterans who have worked for months to get this gear and it makes this game even harder for new players bc itll take 4 months to get proto gear. what veterans? you mean the kids that came from MAG & COD? ladwar wrote:so you support AFKing and why people AFK and feel like it should actually empower AFKing. afking will be resolved sooner or later. crazy space 1 wrote:There are now 80 years of skill training in dust 514 and it will increase to 160 very soon. That is... with boosters.... sigh....
It takes 40 years to max out all 24 proto type suits across every race.
To note, it only takes 177 days from a fresh account to max into a titan . Meaning you could max out all 4 titans skills before maxing out three dropsuits. I literally give up, for real, I'm not playing this game if this is the plan . you dont have to max out every skill to level 5 unless you absolutely need it to unlock something. you only do this if you dont have anything else to go for (his is also true for eve online). lvl 4 to lvl 5 is only minor difference in performance but needs huge amount of SP. also I dont see having alot of stuff to work for as a bad thing actually. Oh no no no no if iI wanted to train all skills and not just dropsuits then it would be over 100 years. |
Nstomper
Disqualified
248
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:11:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Sete Clifton wrote:If the rumored numbers are right and my calculations are correct, then it should take about 3 months to get a full specialized proto suit (without boosters). I know that's longer than now, but I think that's a pretty fair amount if time. They're the best equipment in the game, it should take a while to get them and you shouldn't expect to be able to get them all in my opinion. Just a little over 4 months , 24 protosuits will be aviable to train for when all racial suits are released. You dont have to get all protosuits dude |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1199
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:15:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:There's no way they're that cruel.... right? At this point I just don't know, they keep playing with my feelings |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
314
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:16:00 -
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Might want to start adding your PSN account sign in on to your will guys. Maybe my great, great grandchildren will get all the Minmatar suits maxed for me. |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:17:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Sete Clifton wrote:If the rumored numbers are right and my calculations are correct, then it should take about 3 months to get a full specialized proto suit (without boosters). I know that's longer than now, but I think that's a pretty fair amount if time. They're the best equipment in the game, it should take a while to get them and you shouldn't expect to be able to get them all in my opinion. Just a little over 4 months , 24 protosuits will be aviable to train for when all racial suits are released. You dont have to get all protosuits dude I'm not spending 2 years to get four of them !!!! |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:18:00 -
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Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.
Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.
Vocal majority is not the majority. |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:19:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Might want to start adding your PSN account sign in on to your will guys. Maybe my great, great grandchildren will get all the Minmatar suits maxed for me. Dies* |
Nstomper
Disqualified
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:20:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Nstomper wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Sete Clifton wrote:If the rumored numbers are right and my calculations are correct, then it should take about 3 months to get a full specialized proto suit (without boosters). I know that's longer than now, but I think that's a pretty fair amount if time. They're the best equipment in the game, it should take a while to get them and you shouldn't expect to be able to get them all in my opinion. Just a little over 4 months , 24 protosuits will be aviable to train for when all racial suits are released. You dont have to get all protosuits dude I'm not spending 2 years to get four of them !!!! That's with 500$ of boosters. Then why are you complaining about it then? No one is plannng to get all skills and all protosuits |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1199
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:21:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.
Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.
Vocal majority is not the majority. I'm honestly fine with the suits costing 10 X SP since they have those passive skills now, it's those stupid basic suits that I just don't understand! |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
62
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:21:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Hello don't ignore my post. You are only going to able to train 30% of the total number of skills in dust, if you start now and play untill you die an old man in a hospital. Have you people lost it ???
Dropsuits should be sp cost x4 at most. Keeping dust at no more than 20 years of skills should be a god damn poster in the dev offices. I'm sickened, this better not still be around in 2-3 months becuase after testing the new build you won't he seeing wasting my time Sorry didn't mean to seem rude didn't see ya post bud. I see what your saying, it may take awhile to get ALL proto suits but why would you? CCP is trying to make players specialise in a set role, meaning you can't hybrid class yourself without penalty. Dust we actually play to earn our SP, where as in EVE you have to wait pretty much. I'm assuming you taken into account that Dust gives active and passive SP as well as throwing in holidays where we can earn more. Where as EVE you only get passive sp. How did you come to your conclusion btw, did you use weekly caps as a basic ref and worked out how long it'd take literally to get Proto on all suits?
Adding to this once again what's to say ccp removes the whole weekly cap thing and just has a soft cap followed by a hard cap 3 million points above that cap that slowly raises ?
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crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:26:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.
Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.
Vocal majority is not the majority. I'm honestly fine with the suits costing 10 X SP since they have those passive skills now, it's those stupid basic suits that I just don't understand! X10 is saved for capital ships. The skill multiplier is that high because you need to control a crew of 1000s on a ship the size of a large city.
This is to get 10% faster reload. In 6 months. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1232
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:29:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.
Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.
Vocal majority is not the majority. I'm honestly fine with the suits costing 10 X SP since they have those passive skills now, it's those stupid basic suits that I just don't understand! X10 is saved for capital ships. The skill multiplier is that high because you need to control a crew of 1000s on a ship the size of a large city. This is to get 10% faster reload. In 6 months.
Yeah, just saying - a 10x skill at level 5 is only 3,108,720 SP. I can afford two of those with the SP I currently have and because of my work schedule, I missed a few weeks of SP Cap.
This shouldn't be an issue for the people who are bitching so much about it. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1199
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:29:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.
Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.
Vocal majority is not the majority. I'm honestly fine with the suits costing 10 X SP since they have those passive skills now, it's those stupid basic suits that I just don't understand! X10 is saved for capital ships. The skill multiplier is that high because you need to control a crew of 1000s on a ship the size of a large city. This is to get 10% faster reload. In 6 months. 10x is only 2xs higher than what we currently have, and still less than tanks. I don't really care. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1232
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.
Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.
Vocal majority is not the majority. I'm honestly fine with the suits costing 10 X SP since they have those passive skills now, it's those stupid basic suits that I just don't understand! X10 is saved for capital ships. The skill multiplier is that high because you need to control a crew of 1000s on a ship the size of a large city. This is to get 10% faster reload. In 6 months. 10x is only 2xs higher than what we currently have, and still less than tanks. I don't really care.
A whole 621,840 more SP. So, about three weeks. Whooooooooo.......... |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:33:00 -
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Its 5.5 million sp to get one proto suit, that is 6 months .... Even tech 2 battleships don't take that long |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.
Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.
Vocal majority is not the majority. I'm honestly fine with the suits costing 10 X SP since they have those passive skills now, it's those stupid basic suits that I just don't understand! X10 is saved for capital ships. The skill multiplier is that high because you need to control a crew of 1000s on a ship the size of a large city. This is to get 10% faster reload. In 6 months. 10x is only 2xs higher than what we currently have, and still less than tanks. I don't really care. A whole 621,840 more SP. So, about three weeks. Whooooooooo.......... The new total sp is 140 million |
HUGO SHTIGLETZ
RestlessSpirits
51
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:37:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Correction - People from Negative Feedback are upset over inflated SP costs in Uprising.
Past that, there's been little to no remark about it. In fact, some of us are actually nodding in agreement that's good considering THE SUITS NOW HAVE BONUSES FROM THOSE SKILLS.
Vocal majority is not the majority. I'm honestly fine with the suits costing 10 X SP since they have those passive skills now, it's those stupid basic suits that I just don't understand! X10 is saved for capital ships. The skill multiplier is that high because you need to control a crew of 1000s on a ship the size of a large city. This is to get 10% faster reload. In 6 months. 10x is only 2xs higher than what we currently have, and still less than tanks. I don't really care. A whole 621,840 more SP. So, about three weeks. Whooooooooo..........
comparing standard infantry to a tank and saying that is kind of odd... its a tank it should be way harder to skill into than a an assault dropsuit.
with this whole sp issue the only thing im thinking about now is how little i can actually do with my sp now.
theres no way to skill into multiple proto items soooo....
the real question is should i skill into a proto suit and use a militia/standard gun or should i skill into a proto gun(s) and use a lesser suit (maybe advanced if your lucky)
but by the time these things have been skilled into you've completely neglected all the small passive skills that are needed. all in all...... this sucks
its kinda funny honestly its like we've had our sp reset without actually having it taken away, still grateful for what ill be able to start with, its better than having nothing. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
320
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:39:00 -
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There! I've added my PSN sign in on my last will and testament and what specific skills I want my sons to skill into. Also, I added a request to pass my account on to their children and to spec into logistics MTAC if they're out by then. Should I add another generation to be safe. |
HUGO SHTIGLETZ
RestlessSpirits
51
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:41:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Its 5.5 million sp to get one proto suit, that is 6 months .... Even tech 2 battleships don't take that long dear lord do you even think that sounds like something anyone would want to do? half a years worth of grinding later i was able to get
+1hp per sec to my repair rate and a new suit
thats like playing battlefield 3 for half a year and finally!!! i went from level 5 to 6 yay now i can use the sks... totally worth half a year. |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:43:00 -
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No sorry , the new build has 240 million sp total to train into. With double the content to come out soon |
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crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:44:00 -
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HUGO SHTIGLETZ wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Its 5.5 million sp to get one proto suit, that is 6 months .... Even tech 2 battleships don't take that long dear lord do you even think that sounds like something anyone would want to do? half a years worth of grinding later i was able to get +1hp per sec to my repair rate and a new suit thats like playing battlefield 3 for half a year and finally!!! i went from level 5 to 6 yay now i can use the sks... totally worth half a year. You know what's scary ? People on here want it. They think they do at least. Maybe its just the time of day lets bump this **** in the morning. |
HUGO SHTIGLETZ
RestlessSpirits
51
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:49:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:HUGO SHTIGLETZ wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Its 5.5 million sp to get one proto suit, that is 6 months .... Even tech 2 battleships don't take that long dear lord do you even think that sounds like something anyone would want to do? half a years worth of grinding later i was able to get +1hp per sec to my repair rate and a new suit thats like playing battlefield 3 for half a year and finally!!! i went from level 5 to 6 yay now i can use the sks... totally worth half a year. You know what's scary ? People on here want it. They think they do at least. Maybe its just the time of day lets bump this **** in the morning. so your thinkin this too? for a sec i thought i was the only one thinking like a normal person with a life outside of dust. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
153
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:55:00 -
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QQ :( I need a proto suit and weapon. QQ. it takes too long. QQ I need someone to hold my hand. QQ. The tissues are in the living room, grow up. It should take time to get to the best stuff in the game. Who wants to play cod in space? Not me, but I guess I will if I want to play dust because all the infant tears are watering down a game that is on it way to being fun. I can't wait for the day that all I have to do is log on and I have everything for free and everyone is the same. We should go back to the first closed beta build so we all get 100k SP a match and we all can run proto all the time. Fun times. I totally suck at this game and I don't have the problems the "I go 15/0 every battle" crowd does. I guess I should just stop reading these forums because of all the "I want it all right now" garbage. Grow up, harden up or whatever else it takes to make you stop crying.
Don't bother responding to my post because I will not be back on this thread to read it. Enjoy your kiddy pool full of tears.
Grow a pair and be a real merc for once. Babies. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1232
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:56:00 -
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HUGO SHTIGLETZ wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:HUGO SHTIGLETZ wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Its 5.5 million sp to get one proto suit, that is 6 months .... Even tech 2 battleships don't take that long dear lord do you even think that sounds like something anyone would want to do? half a years worth of grinding later i was able to get +1hp per sec to my repair rate and a new suit thats like playing battlefield 3 for half a year and finally!!! i went from level 5 to 6 yay now i can use the sks... totally worth half a year. You know what's scary ? People on here want it. They think they do at least. Maybe its just the time of day lets bump this **** in the morning. so your thinkin this too? for a sec i thought i was the only one thinking like a normal person with a life outside of dust.
Where the -****- are you people getting this outrageous number? A 1x skill is 310,840 SP -TOTAL- so if you multiply that by 10 (just add a zero to the end FFS) it's 3,108,400 SP
Where the hell is this imaginary bullshit number coming from? Eve Online totals?
Dust 514 and Eve Online have different skill equations - LOOK AT YOUR SKILL BOOK IN DUST 514 - IT'S THAT ****ING SIMPLE
Edit: Oh, my bad, it's 310,920 SP - I was off by five minutes or so of Passive SP accumulation. |
GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
404
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:59:00 -
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Months of grinding ahead, and still the fanboys can't get enough.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
33
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:20:00 -
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Don't worry, when they normalise our SP on Monday and everyone starts on the same 13Mill+ SP you will see that they have increased the SP payout by the same percentage.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=71429&find=unread |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
183
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:51:00 -
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I get the feeling CCP wants us to think about who we are going to fight and when, then prepare and select a time on a monthly cycle basis rather than engaging in PC every second of the day....
Taking longer to do things suits me just fine. |
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