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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:59:00 -
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mollerz wrote:So one could say, you can't be reasoned with :)
And they would be right, I can't be. I'm very adamant about my position on the subject, I just don't voice it as much anymore because I don't care to be trolled, and I'm attempting to be more constructive all around, which these discussions ultimately never are |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
268
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:03:00 -
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meh... lol it went down hill fast to the trolls. I don't like the feeling that no matter how well I do I get most of the reward from just spawning in, which is why I bring up the reward system ever chance I get and don't usually actually play till I cap out. there is to much reward on passive in match spawned in time and/or to little WP reward. that really needs to be fixed. dust might be in the eve world but its not the same game and shouldn't be treated as such. the game mechanic does not work the same way and theres no way to keep a player base if you use a different type of game and use it for your ruling mechanic, sure it could be an underlining mechanic but to make a major mechanic is to setup stuff like this. |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
221
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:15:00 -
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ladwar wrote:meh... lol it went down hill fast to the trolls. I don't like the feeling that no matter how well I do I get most of the reward from just spawning in, which is why I bring up the reward system ever chance I get and don't usually actually play till I cap out. there is to much reward on passive in match spawned in time and/or to little WP reward. that really needs to be fixed. dust might be in the eve world but its not the same game and shouldn't be treated as such. the game mechanic does not work the same way and theres no way to keep a player base if you use a different type of game and use it for your ruling mechanic, sure it could be an underlining mechanic but to make a major mechanic is to setup stuff like this.
From what I've heard, a fix is in the works. Whether this means some type of punishment system for AFKers or a different WP scoring system, I have no idea. Something needs to be done though before Skirmish ends up just being MCC Party mode. Once another objective mode comes out, I don't imagine as many people will be playing Skirmish. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them.
What answer are you looking for? You can go negative while losing money and earning slightly more SP than going 0-0 and earning money . You want people to get stomped on for what purpose? |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
222
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:29:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them. What answer are you looking for? You can go negative while losing money and earning slightly more SP than going 0-0 and earning money . You want people to get stomped on for what purpose?
If you get stomped on, unless you're brand new, AFKing isn't going to save you. You're just bad... |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
585
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:38:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:Do I have any excuse for AFKing nope.
Why do I do it then. I would be a idiot not to take advantage of free SP while I am studying and working on projects or writing papers.
I am doing other things more important. It is easy to once in awhile look back see I am not in a game anymore put myself in one and go back to my college school work.
It is a smart thing to do. I am not going out of my way to do it. But I am not burning up time I could spend on school work.
Do people have ligit reasons to be mad at AFKers? Yes
Do people give stupid excuses? yes. You went over some of them.
But you also gave some stupid analogies to.
You called people idiots, cheaters, and liers through out your whole video. Maybe they where not your direct words of choice but they where hinted at. Example: Steroids in Sports talk.
People are not idiots, cheaters or lieing when they do it. So calling someone that is just a fabricated thought.
Yes people may hate them. You could say it is poor gamers etiquette. It is something that should not be in the game. It hurts overall gameplay. These are things it does.
But it is a smart way for poeple to do other things at home while gaining the competitive SP they want. Saying having more SP does not help you say competitive is just a lie. It does. someone with 10% damage mods vs someone with 5% has a big advantage.
Do I think CCP needs to fix AFKing. Yes. But I would be stupid not to use it to my advantage while it allows me to work on my school work. Or browse these forums for fun.
The question is, why do you care about your SP so much that you have to take the time to load up your PS3 and continuously hop into a Skirmish game, while doing your school work? When I have a project to do the last thing I'm thinking about is
"OMG I'm losing out on SP While I do this important task, let me MCC Farm instead"
Sounds to me like you value your SP over all else. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
166
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:38:00 -
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True story,
AFKer 0-0-50
Noob 0-22-0
Our team lost by clone count. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:38:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them. What answer are you looking for? You can go negative while losing money and earning slightly more SP than going 0-0 and earning money . You want people to get stomped on for what purpose? If you get stomped on, unless you're brand new, AFKing isn't going to save you. You're just bad...
You aren't answering my question. Why should someone leave the MCC when he or his team is being stomped on? Because the answer I've heard so far is " well you might as well play anyway and get stomped on while losing money, just because...", and that's a horrible answer. Please put yourself in the shoes of someone who isn't that good at this game going against a good corp squad in ADV/proto suits. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
28
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:39:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I lose out on plenty of SP because I don't AFK when I'm too busy to play, I don't see why people feel entitled to rewards that they didn't earn Same. That and the fact that I'm not the kind of person who will negatively effect my team's ability to win for my own personal gain. I'm not throwing my team under the bus for the sake of my own multi-tasking efficiency. Some do, though... and it says a lot about the kind of folks they are; especially the ones that are just downright a-holes about it their AFK endeavors. you aren't winning anything. You are winding down testing a beta build as a player tester.
That's beyond a stretch of logic.
The goal of any particular match of ambush or skirmish is to win the match. I'll take a relatively safe leap of faith and say that the majority of players that enter a match with the intent of playing (not AFK'ing) want to win that match (afterall, it is a game).
It's true, we are all beta testers. But most of us are playing to have fun, and yes, to win.
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:43:00 -
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BTW you forgot to mention the excuse of this is New Eden!
What are your thoughts and opinions about the Corps that have gotten ISK stolen from them?
" LOL welcome to New Eden you scrubs. "
This is New Eden and the AFKers are scamming SP from CCP.
" LOL hey CCP welcom to New Eden you scrubs. "
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
268
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:57:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:True story,
AFKer 0-0-50
Noob 0-22-0
Our team lost by clone count. lol dear god I don't think or at least hope no one is that bad but hey I have seen it with scores like 0-14-0 and 0-19-0 before. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
150
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:00:00 -
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Today I have played 3 matches.... Each one had 5 or more afkers..... Fking ridiculous. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
268
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:02:00 -
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I know it awesome, we have a party going up in the MCC |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
31
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:56:00 -
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Alright, guys, time to get serious. First of all DS, great job, as always, with the video. Keep it up, dude! Now the thing is,I agree with most of what you said with a key difference. I DO think AFK farmers are pieces of ****. Plain and simple. I've had this conversation over and over again with these dudes who identify themselves as AFKers and everytime you lay down the law on them, they end up saying the same thing: "Oh I'm just trolling lol" No you aren't trolling. You're a piece of **** I say!
Now I can forgive the dudes who just take the easy way out, cause that's how they get by, no big deal. You gotta do what you gotta do. It's a whole another thing when a whole corporation actively endorses events build around AFKing, and I don't give a **** if you do cause you wanna troll or cause that's what you do. If it produces ****, it's an A-hole. Let's call things what they really are.
Another thing I'd like to say is that, I'm not looking for another confrontation with EoN and Negative Feedback, who have given me a lot of negative feedback about my comments on AFK farming. I just wanna have an open discussion and hopefully make all makor alliances agree that AFK farming is total BS! Peace out! |
Spergin McBadposter
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
27
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:16:00 -
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FYI I watched this video while AFK'ing a match. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
166
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:23:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:mollerz wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I lose out on plenty of SP because I don't AFK when I'm too busy to play, I don't see why people feel entitled to rewards that they didn't earn Same. That and the fact that I'm not the kind of person who will negatively effect my team's ability to win for my own personal gain. I'm not throwing my team under the bus for the sake of my own multi-tasking efficiency. Some do, though... and it says a lot about the kind of folks they are; especially the ones that are just downright a-holes about it their AFK endeavors. you aren't winning anything. You are winding down testing a beta build as a player tester. That's beyond a stretch of logic. The goal of any particular match of ambush or skirmish is to win the match. I'll take a relatively safe leap of faith and say that the majority of players that enter a match with the intent of playing (not AFK'ing) want to win that match (afterall, it is a game). It's true, we are all beta testers. But most of us are playing to have fun, and yes, to win.
You guys act like AFKers never play. They cap in the MCC, and then play.And typically pub stomping hits an all new crescendo as proto players who were parked in the MCC now descend from the heavens to wipe up all the people who didn't realize how good they had it when the AFK fest was going on. Besides, as of tomorrow you won't ever see an AFKer of this caliber ever again. Unless CCP didn't "fix" it. And if that's the case, what would that tell you?
Either it will be gone forever tomorrow, or business as usual until they get sick of hearing the complaints from everyone who stays in pub matches. I'll be over in PC tho, so....
As an aside, if it remains in uprising along with the current SP cap/earning I predict everyone will AFK in pub matches until they cap and then head over to PC. Now that would be something to ***** about. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
404
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:29:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote: The question is, why do you care about your SP so much that you have to take the time to load up your PS3 and continuously hop into a Skirmish game, constantly look at your screen, while doing your school work? When I have a project to do the last thing I'm thinking about is
"OMG I'm losing out on SP in Dust While I do this important task, let me MCC Farm instead"
Sounds to me like you value your SP over all else. This subject has been beaten into the ground, by me and practically the whole community. I grow weary of these encounters.
Because I take 30 seconds out of every 20 mins I care about AFKing more then anything now.
Umm sorry some people can multi task. I am getting successful As in my classes so it looks like I put enough value on them. Not sure how multi tasking and AFKing farming in the background makes me emphasis alot of value on it.
The question is why not do it? I lose nothing. My corp is not going to kick me. I am still one of the best tankers in the game. And a top dropship pilot. I have decent ground game. None of these things change if I AFK. I just gain extra SP to put into things I enjoy. Yes people are pissed off at me but in the end that does not effect me. Because I have a big friend base in dust so if a few people get angry I am not going to be a loner.
So why should I not AFK?
DS 10 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them. "CCP put it in the game! It's a legitimate method!" If it was so legitimate, CCP wouldn't be fixing it. It's a shame it took so long for them to do something about it.
Definition of legitmite for you guys: Conforming to the law or to rules
How am i not being reasonable. Your the ones doing personal attacks on the AFKers.
I am just explaining that your reasonings are horrible. If you talked about the mechanic needing to be fixed and bad for game play then you would have something worth while. But all the video did was attack other players saying they have no excuses to AFK.
You do not need a excuse to AFK. It is legitimate. No rules ban it. Nothing says it is a exploit.
It is a unexpected mechanic. Just like the wind tunnels some baseball stadiums make that make it easier to obtain a home run. The home run is legitimate. Just takes longer to fix that mistake where here it is a quicker time line. Yes maybe not quick enough for some. |
Onesimus Tarsus
Planetary Response Organization
5
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:51:00 -
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CCP adds a game mode called Ambush AFK. You select it, your account freezes for 18 minutes, you get a healthy dose of SP and ISK. Farmers aren't in games, farmers get points. Everyone is reasonably happy.
You're welcome. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
31
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:15:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:IRuby Heart wrote: The question is, why do you care about your SP so much that you have to take the time to load up your PS3 and continuously hop into a Skirmish game, constantly look at your screen, while doing your school work? When I have a project to do the last thing I'm thinking about is
"OMG I'm losing out on SP in Dust While I do this important task, let me MCC Farm instead"
Sounds to me like you value your SP over all else. This subject has been beaten into the ground, by me and practically the whole community. I grow weary of these encounters.
Because I take 30 seconds out of every 20 mins I care about AFKing more then anything now. Umm sorry some people can multi task. I am getting successful As in my classes so it looks like I put enough value on them. Not sure how multi tasking and AFKing farming in the background makes me emphasis alot of value on it. The question is why not do it? I lose nothing. My corp is not going to kick me. I am still one of the best tankers in the game. And a top dropship pilot. I have decent ground game. None of these things change if I AFK. I just gain extra SP to put into things I enjoy. Yes people are pissed off at me but in the end that does not effect me. Because I have a big friend base in dust so if a few people get angry I am not going to be a loner. So why should I not AFK? DS 10 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them. "CCP put it in the game! It's a legitimate method!" If it was so legitimate, CCP wouldn't be fixing it. It's a shame it took so long for them to do something about it. Definition of legitmite for you guys: Conforming to the law or to rules How am i not being reasonable. Your the ones doing personal attacks on the AFKers. I am just explaining that your reasonings are horrible. If you talked about the mechanic needing to be fixed and bad for game play then you would have something worth while. But all the video did was attack other players saying they have no excuses to AFK. You do not need a excuse to AFK. It is legitimate. No rules ban it. Nothing says it is a exploit. It is a unexpected mechanic. Just like the wind tunnels some baseball stadiums make that make it easier to obtain a home run. The home run is legitimate. Just takes longer to fix that mistake where here it is a quicker time line. Yes maybe not quick enough for some. Alright I'm gonna have to answer this cause I can see your moral development is a little lacking to say the least. Now don't get pissed me at just yet as this will be for your betterment. I do admit some of what I'm about to say might sound a little harsh though.
The first problem I see right away is the fact that you talk about doing stuff cause you can get away with it as you have enough friends already. That tells me right away, bro, that your values do not come from within but you're basing your decisions on the fact whether you're still gonna have friends after the fact that you do something. That's all well and good, man, and we've all been there. Some will never grow out of it and some, like me get a strong sense of moral values practically the moment we hit elementary school. At this moment you're on what we like to call the dog stage; you do things based on rewards and punishment. Compared to someone like me who has got rid of his own ego almost entirely you still have a long way to go but let me tell you right now, you still have hope. You just gotta get out of your comfort zone and be willing to take the leap man. If you work really hard I can see you hitting the Camel stage by the time you're 17.
Now as far your claims on AFKing being legitimate well let me tell you right now: It's as legitimate as my illegitimate son man! Let me tell you exactly why, bro. You see when all those new people log in to the game, they have certain expectations. You know, they wanna have fun, they wanna enjoy competitive atmosphere where they can kick ass and get their asses kicked! Now all these dudes AFKing takes away from the enjoyment of the game of other players! And that's what I mean, when I'm talking about this AFKing thing eating up the community from the inside. I don't know about anyone else but I'm not gonna watch our great community get downgraded into an equivalent of an ape society!
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DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
222
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:16:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:IRuby Heart wrote: The question is, why do you care about your SP so much that you have to take the time to load up your PS3 and continuously hop into a Skirmish game, constantly look at your screen, while doing your school work? When I have a project to do the last thing I'm thinking about is
"OMG I'm losing out on SP in Dust While I do this important task, let me MCC Farm instead"
Sounds to me like you value your SP over all else. This subject has been beaten into the ground, by me and practically the whole community. I grow weary of these encounters.
Because I take 30 seconds out of every 20 mins I care about AFKing more then anything now. Umm sorry some people can multi task. I am getting successful As in my classes so it looks like I put enough value on them. Not sure how multi tasking and AFKing farming in the background makes me emphasis alot of value on it. The question is why not do it? I lose nothing. My corp is not going to kick me. I am still one of the best tankers in the game. And a top dropship pilot. I have decent ground game. None of these things change if I AFK. I just gain extra SP to put into things I enjoy. Yes people are pissed off at me but in the end that does not effect me. Because I have a big friend base in dust so if a few people get angry I am not going to be a loner. So why should I not AFK? DS 10 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them. "CCP put it in the game! It's a legitimate method!" If it was so legitimate, CCP wouldn't be fixing it. It's a shame it took so long for them to do something about it. Definition of legitmite for you guys: Conforming to the law or to rules How am i not being reasonable. Your the ones doing personal attacks on the AFKers. I am just explaining that your reasonings are horrible. If you talked about the mechanic needing to be fixed and bad for game play then you would have something worth while. But all the video did was attack other players saying they have no excuses to AFK. You do not need a excuse to AFK. It is legitimate. No rules ban it. Nothing says it is a exploit. It is a unexpected mechanic. Just like the wind tunnels some baseball stadiums make that make it easier to obtain a home run. The home run is legitimate. Just takes longer to fix that mistake where here it is a quicker time line. Yes maybe not quick enough for some.
I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
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Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
404
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:39:00 -
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DS 10 wrote: I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it.
@Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way.
If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism.
But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
31
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:45:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote: I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology.
This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
394
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:51:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote: I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology. This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. hey ric, how do you feel about your own corp mates and alliance mates AFK farming? came across a lot of them today. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
106
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:09:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:True story,
AFKer 0-0-50
Noob 0-22-0
Our team lost by clone count. So true that it hurts. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
405
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:12:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote: I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology. This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. hey ric, how do you feel about your own corp mates and alliance mates AFK farming? came across a lot of them today.
I love how he is calling me hostile yet he is calling people dogs and maybe even a camel. :/ I have to wonder about some people on these forums. Once your prove them wrong they get all defensive and start pointing fingers because that is all they have left. :) |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
31
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:18:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote: I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology. This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. hey ric, how do you feel about your own corp mates and alliance mates AFK farming? came across a lot of them today.
I'm disgusted! But as I said, we've seen this before and some people need to do what they need to do to get by. I'm not one of those guys and I don't give a **** if it's Obama AFKing in that MCC, I promise to you write now, bro, you'll never see me doing that! You'll never see me being proud of my alliance members doing that either! At the same time though I have a lot of respect for your alliance mate DS 10 for speaking out on this matter and being a man about it too. |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
395
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:21:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:JW v Weingarten wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote: I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology. This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. hey ric, how do you feel about your own corp mates and alliance mates AFK farming? came across a lot of them today. I'm disgusted! But as I said, we've seen this before and some people need to do what they need to do to get by. I'm not one of those guys and I don't give a **** if it's Obama AFKing in that MCC, I promise to you write now, bro, you'll never see me doing that! You'll never see me being proud of my alliance members doing that either! At the same time though I have a lot of respect for your alliance mate DS 10 for speaking out on this matter and being a man about it too.
Are you sure? i got a screenshot from a while back of a certain roc barlom afk in the mcc.......want to explain this? I am not going to post the picture in case of name shaming and stuff but you know it yourself |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:24:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:JW v Weingarten wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote: I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology. This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. hey ric, how do you feel about your own corp mates and alliance mates AFK farming? came across a lot of them today. I love how he is calling me hostile yet he is calling people dogs and maybe even a camel. :/ I have to wonder about some people on these forums. Once your prove them wrong they get all defensive and start pointing fingers because that is all they have left. :)
You remind me of my ex with this passive aggressive BS, dude! I tried to be all nice to you. Tried to get to know you a little bit, even gave you an advice but now you start talking all kinds of bull crap at me. What's up with that? I mean what prove did you exactly give me and on what? That you might be my annoying ex! Well ****, small world! |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:24:00 -
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From the video:
"All the reasons given to AFK are ridicules."
The fact that you care at all is even more ridicules.
Note: I do not AFK.
Also you mentioned that no FPS rewards doing nothing, they reward you for doing things.
I should point out that Dust is an MMO...most pure FPSs do not reward people with better armor, better weapons, better aim, better damage and on and on and on simply based on how long you have played regardless of how well you played.
Yes COD and BF3 allow you to unlock some gear...but the gain is minimal compared to what Dust gives you.
I mention this because this the flaw with Dust and what creates AFKers...not what you claim is the cause. |
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