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Ric Barlom
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:56:00 -
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Alright, guys, time to get serious. First of all DS, great job, as always, with the video. Keep it up, dude! Now the thing is,I agree with most of what you said with a key difference. I DO think AFK farmers are pieces of ****. Plain and simple. I've had this conversation over and over again with these dudes who identify themselves as AFKers and everytime you lay down the law on them, they end up saying the same thing: "Oh I'm just trolling lol" No you aren't trolling. You're a piece of **** I say!
Now I can forgive the dudes who just take the easy way out, cause that's how they get by, no big deal. You gotta do what you gotta do. It's a whole another thing when a whole corporation actively endorses events build around AFKing, and I don't give a **** if you do cause you wanna troll or cause that's what you do. If it produces ****, it's an A-hole. Let's call things what they really are.
Another thing I'd like to say is that, I'm not looking for another confrontation with EoN and Negative Feedback, who have given me a lot of negative feedback about my comments on AFK farming. I just wanna have an open discussion and hopefully make all makor alliances agree that AFK farming is total BS! Peace out! |
Ric Barlom
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:15:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:
The question is, why do you care about your SP so much that you have to take the time to load up your PS3 and continuously hop into a Skirmish game, constantly look at your screen, while doing your school work? When I have a project to do the last thing I'm thinking about is
"OMG I'm losing out on SP in Dust While I do this important task, let me MCC Farm instead"
Sounds to me like you value your SP over all else. This subject has been beaten into the ground, by me and practically the whole community. I grow weary of these encounters.
Because I take 30 seconds out of every 20 mins I care about AFKing more then anything now. Umm sorry some people can multi task. I am getting successful As in my classes so it looks like I put enough value on them. Not sure how multi tasking and AFKing farming in the background makes me emphasis alot of value on it. The question is why not do it? I lose nothing. My corp is not going to kick me. I am still one of the best tankers in the game. And a top dropship pilot. I have decent ground game. None of these things change if I AFK. I just gain extra SP to put into things I enjoy. Yes people are pissed off at me but in the end that does not effect me. Because I have a big friend base in dust so if a few people get angry I am not going to be a loner. So why should I not AFK? DS 10 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them. "CCP put it in the game! It's a legitimate method!" If it was so legitimate, CCP wouldn't be fixing it. It's a shame it took so long for them to do something about it. Definition of legitmite for you guys: Conforming to the law or to rules How am i not being reasonable. Your the ones doing personal attacks on the AFKers. I am just explaining that your reasonings are horrible. If you talked about the mechanic needing to be fixed and bad for game play then you would have something worth while. But all the video did was attack other players saying they have no excuses to AFK. You do not need a excuse to AFK. It is legitimate. No rules ban it. Nothing says it is a exploit. It is a unexpected mechanic. Just like the wind tunnels some baseball stadiums make that make it easier to obtain a home run. The home run is legitimate. Just takes longer to fix that mistake where here it is a quicker time line. Yes maybe not quick enough for some.
Alright I'm gonna have to answer this cause I can see your moral development is a little lacking to say the least. Now don't get pissed me at just yet as this will be for your betterment. I do admit some of what I'm about to say might sound a little harsh though.
The first problem I see right away is the fact that you talk about doing stuff cause you can get away with it as you have enough friends already. That tells me right away, bro, that your values do not come from within but you're basing your decisions on the fact whether you're still gonna have friends after the fact that you do something. That's all well and good, man, and we've all been there. Some will never grow out of it and some, like me get a strong sense of moral values practically the moment we hit elementary school. At this moment you're on what we like to call the dog stage; you do things based on rewards and punishment. Compared to someone like me who has got rid of his own ego almost entirely you still have a long way to go but let me tell you right now, you still have hope. You just gotta get out of your comfort zone and be willing to take the leap man. If you work really hard I can see you hitting the Camel stage by the time you're 17.
Now as far your claims on AFKing being legitimate well let me tell you right now: It's as legitimate as my illegitimate son man! Let me tell you exactly why, bro. You see when all those new people log in to the game, they have certain expectations. You know, they wanna have fun, they wanna enjoy competitive atmosphere where they can kick ass and get their asses kicked! Now all these dudes AFKing takes away from the enjoyment of the game of other players! And that's what I mean, when I'm talking about this AFKing thing eating up the community from the inside. I don't know about anyone else but I'm not gonna watch our great community get downgraded into an equivalent of an ape society!
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Ric Barlom
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:45:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote:
I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology.
This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. |
Ric Barlom
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:18:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote:
I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology. This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. hey ric, how do you feel about your own corp mates and alliance mates AFK farming? came across a lot of them today.
I'm disgusted! But as I said, we've seen this before and some people need to do what they need to do to get by. I'm not one of those guys and I don't give a **** if it's Obama AFKing in that MCC, I promise to you write now, bro, you'll never see me doing that! You'll never see me being proud of my alliance members doing that either! At the same time though I have a lot of respect for your alliance mate DS 10 for speaking out on this matter and being a man about it too. |
Ric Barlom
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:24:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:JW v Weingarten wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote:
I just explained the holes in the excuses given. I don't care that people that AFK. If that's what you wanna do, do it. I'm pretty sure I said that in my video as well. I just don't agree with it and see it as a cheap tactic. That's all :D
We can have different opinions and still get along.
You do not care yet you made a commentary on it. And posted it on the forums. You care about it. @Ric Barlom Oh no we have someone who took intro to pysc. He learned about conditioning theory and he has it all mastered now. Maybe he even studied a little Freud. Then we have a real master. We could go over the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Those deal with your morals in a way. If I am at my dog stage then not sure where that leaves you, maybe single cell organism. But Ric I will not get mad. But I will say that you basically wrote a ton of stuff that does not mean much. It does not make any sense. And you have little understanding about psychology. This is exactly what I mean, man, when I talk about the behaviour methods of these AFK farmers. Why do you have to be so hostile and confrontational all the time, dude! Let's have an open discussion about this thing without any hostility, bro. hey ric, how do you feel about your own corp mates and alliance mates AFK farming? came across a lot of them today. I love how he is calling me hostile yet he is calling people dogs and maybe even a camel. :/ I have to wonder about some people on these forums. Once your prove them wrong they get all defensive and start pointing fingers because that is all they have left. :)
You remind me of my ex with this passive aggressive BS, dude! I tried to be all nice to you. Tried to get to know you a little bit, even gave you an advice but now you start talking all kinds of bull crap at me. What's up with that? I mean what prove did you exactly give me and on what? That you might be my annoying ex! Well ****, small world! |
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