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DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:23:00 -
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http://youtu.be/Ank3UPXNZVY
In the video I discuss the reasons people AFK and my stance on the subject. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2723
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:29:00 -
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I was actually about to make a similar video lol, good on you. |
Muzodor
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:30:00 -
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Not going to lie, I'm slightly disappointed it was really not a troll. Good vids btw. |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:40:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I was actually about to make a similar video lol, good on you.
Be glad you didn't. The Dislike Patrol is gonna jack me up.
Oh well. Haha. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2227
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:42:00 -
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I AFK cuz it allows me to multitask |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2723
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:46:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Be glad you didn't. The Dislike Patrol is gonna jack me up.
Pffft, I couldn't care less about that, it's about time someone told them off outside of the forums |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
424
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:47:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I AFK cuz it allows me to multitask same ^^^ |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
219
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:DS 10 wrote:Be glad you didn't. The Dislike Patrol is gonna jack me up. Pffft, I couldn't care less about that, it's about time someone told them off outside of the forums
I tried to make it clear that I don't dislike them. I just hate what they do :D Big difference that seems to be overlooked. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
162
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:05:00 -
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I got through 2 minutes (sorry I couldn't make the full 8) and got the jist. It was well thought out, and laid out opinion.
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DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:12:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I got through 2 minutes (sorry I couldn't make the full 8) and got the jist. It was well thought out, and laid out opinion.
Thank you. That's what I was going for. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
266
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:16:00 -
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Muzodor wrote:Not going to lie, I'm slightly disappointed it was really not a troll. Good vids btw. well you can always make it into a troll thread, I promise. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
163
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:21:00 -
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I checked out some other videos and realized I've seen some of your other stuff.
I was wondering if you were going heavy when uprising comes out? Any thoughts on the limited info that's come out?
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DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
220
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:29:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I checked out some other videos and realized I've seen some of your other stuff.
I was wondering if you were going heavy when uprising comes out? Any thoughts on the limited info that's come out?
Definitely going all out with my heavy. I think the people that are talking about heavies being useless are overreacting to limited information that we've gotten so far. We haven't gotten our hands on the new build yet, so there's no real way to decide whether or not the heavy will be effective. I think with everyone losing Sharpshooter (range), it kinda negates the loss of range for HMGs as well. I'm staying optimistic until I'm proven otherwise. That's how everyone should be, IMO.
As far as the limited information, only having one Heavy suit still is frustrating. I feel like we're getting ignored because of so many Assault/Scout/Logi players complain about us being OP. I feel like most of the time they're just upset they lose 1v1 situations, which by all means they should. |
Chief Jon Redcorn
GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA
10
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:31:00 -
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i AFK for the drama, lots of good mic rages to be recorded. the SP is just a bonus |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
403
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:33:00 -
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Do I have any excuse for AFKing nope.
Why do I do it then. I would be a idiot not to take advantage of free SP while I am studying and working on projects or writing papers.
I am doing other things more important. It is easy to once in awhile look back see I am not in a game anymore put myself in one and go back to my college school work.
It is a smart thing to do. I am not going out of my way to do it. But I am not burning up time I could spend on school work.
Do people have ligit reasons to be mad at AFKers? Yes
Do people give stupid excuses? yes. You went over some of them.
But you also gave some stupid analogies to.
You called people idiots, cheaters, and liers through out your whole video. Maybe they where not your direct words of choice but they where hinted at. Example: Steroids in Sports talk.
People are not idiots, cheaters or lieing when they do it. So calling someone that is just a fabricated thought.
Yes people may hate them. You could say it is poor gamers etiquette. It is something that should not be in the game. It hurts overall gameplay. These are things it does.
But it is a smart way for poeple to do other things at home while gaining the competitive SP they want. Saying having more SP does not help you say competitive is just a lie. It does. someone with 10% damage mods vs someone with 5% has a big advantage.
Do I think CCP needs to fix AFKing. Yes. But I would be stupid not to use it to my advantage while it allows me to work on my school work. Or browse these forums for fun. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
9
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:36:00 -
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I fully agree with the OP. AFK falls right along side those who have no mic(Comms are essential on this game IMO), and the people who run to the hills as soon as the match looks to be going pear shaped. |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
123
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:37:00 -
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But if I AFK then I can't squad up with lowrate and make you go 1/6. Wouldn't you rather that not happen? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2723
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:38:00 -
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I lose out on plenty of SP because I don't AFK when I'm too busy to play, I don't see why people feel entitled to rewards that they didn't earn |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
221
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:39:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:Do I have any excuse for AFKing nope.
Why do I do it then. I would be a idiot not to take advantage of free SP while I am studying and working on projects or writing papers.
I am doing other things more important. It is easy to once in awhile look back see I am not in a game anymore put myself in one and go back to my college school work.
It is a smart thing to do. I am not going out of my way to do it. But I am not burning up time I could spend on school work.
Do people have ligit reasons to be mad at AFKers? Yes
Do people give stupid excuses? yes. You went over some of them.
But you also gave some stupid analogies to.
You called people idiots, cheaters, and liers through out your whole video. Maybe they where not your direct words of choice but they where hinted at. Example: Steroids in Sports talk.
People are not idiots, cheaters or lieing when they do it. So calling someone that is just a fabricated thought.
Yes people may hate them. You could say it is poor gamers etiquette. It is something that should not be in the game. It hurts overall gameplay. These are things it does.
But it is a smart way for poeple to do other things at home while gaining the competitive SP they want. Saying having more SP does not help you say competitive is just a lie. It does. someone with 10% damage mods vs someone with 5% has a big advantage.
Do I think CCP needs to fix AFKing. Yes. But I would be stupid not to use it to my advantage while it allows me to work on my school work. Or browse these forums for fun.
How is AFKing not like steroids? It's a way to get better faster than doing it legitimately. I don't call people idiots. I don't insinuate that people are idiots. I say that AFKing is boosting and should be frowned upon. Also at the end of the video, I'm pretty sure I say "to each their own". If people want to AFK, by all means go for it, but that does not mean that I have to condone it or agree with it.
I tried to make it clear that my stance is against it, but I don't hate the players that do it. If you didn't get that from the video, you didn't pay close enough attention. |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
221
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:40:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:But if I AFK then I can't squad up with lowrate and make you go 1/6. Wouldn't you rather that not happen?
When I'm just messing around with cheap logi fits and goofing off, I don't mind much. :D
PS Tell LowRate to stop hiding with his Viziam. Wait... That's his only strategy... |
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RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
123
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:42:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:But if I AFK then I can't squad up with lowrate and make you go 1/6. Wouldn't you rather that not happen? When I'm just messing around with cheap logi fits and goofing off, I don't mind much. :D
Just sayin, I know u mad bro :p |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
163
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:44:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:mollerz wrote:I checked out some other videos and realized I've seen some of your other stuff.
I was wondering if you were going heavy when uprising comes out? Any thoughts on the limited info that's come out?
Definitely going all out with my heavy. I think the people that are talking about heavies being useless are overreacting to limited information that we've gotten so far. We haven't gotten our hands on the new build yet, so there's no real way to decide whether or not the heavy will be effective. I think with everyone losing Sharpshooter (range), it kinda negates the loss of range for HMGs as well. I'm staying optimistic until I'm proven otherwise. That's how everyone should be, IMO. As far as the limited information, only having one Heavy suit still is frustrating. I feel like we're getting ignored because of so many Assault/Scout/Logi players complain about us being OP. I feel like most of the time they're just upset they lose 1v1 situations, which by all means they should.
The to be released gallente looks sexay tho. I might have to definitely check that out. It does suck that no other heavy suits are coming out with uprising. It would have been nice to see each class get something with such a huge update. Hopefully, they got over a hump and updates will roll more quickly.
The thing about the AFK hoopla is that it will most likely not exist after the 6th. so at this point, it's a moot point very SoonGäó |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
221
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:46:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:DS 10 wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:But if I AFK then I can't squad up with lowrate and make you go 1/6. Wouldn't you rather that not happen? When I'm just messing around with cheap logi fits and goofing off, I don't mind much. :D Just sayin, I know u mad bro :p
About what? Pub scrubs don't mean anything. Hence why I've been playing with random fittings for the past week. Sorry I'm not mad... Does this help? |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
403
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:47:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:Do I have any excuse for AFKing nope.
Why do I do it then. I would be a idiot not to take advantage of free SP while I am studying and working on projects or writing papers.
I am doing other things more important. It is easy to once in awhile look back see I am not in a game anymore put myself in one and go back to my college school work.
It is a smart thing to do. I am not going out of my way to do it. But I am not burning up time I could spend on school work.
Do people have ligit reasons to be mad at AFKers? Yes
Do people give stupid excuses? yes. You went over some of them.
But you also gave some stupid analogies to.
You called people idiots, cheaters, and liers through out your whole video. Maybe they where not your direct words of choice but they where hinted at. Example: Steroids in Sports talk.
People are not idiots, cheaters or lieing when they do it. So calling someone that is just a fabricated thought.
Yes people may hate them. You could say it is poor gamers etiquette. It is something that should not be in the game. It hurts overall gameplay. These are things it does.
But it is a smart way for poeple to do other things at home while gaining the competitive SP they want. Saying having more SP does not help you say competitive is just a lie. It does. someone with 10% damage mods vs someone with 5% has a big advantage.
Do I think CCP needs to fix AFKing. Yes. But I would be stupid not to use it to my advantage while it allows me to work on my school work. Or browse these forums for fun. How is AFKing not like steroids? It's a way to get better faster than doing it legitimately. I don't call people idiots. I don't insinuate that people are idiots. I say that AFKing is boosting and should be frowned upon. Also at the end of the video, I'm pretty sure I say "to each their own". If people want to AFK, by all means go for it, but that does not mean that I have to condone it or agree with it. I tried to make it clear that my stance is against it, but I don't hate the players that do it. If you didn't get that from the video, you didn't pay close enough attention.
Steroids is banned from sports and considered cheating by the league for each sport.
AFKing is a mechanic in DUST 514. CCP has not banned it. Or called it a cheat/exploit. It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play. It is like creatine if you want to use that annalogy. Some people frown on it others except it. But it is legal.
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
28
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I lose out on plenty of SP because I don't AFK when I'm too busy to play, I don't see why people feel entitled to rewards that they didn't earn
Same. That and the fact that I'm not the kind of person who will negatively effect my team's ability to win for my own personal gain. I'm not throwing my team under the bus for the sake of my own multi-tasking efficiency. Some do, though... and it says a lot about the kind of folks they are; especially the ones that are just downright a-holes about it their AFK endeavors. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2726
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:52:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play
This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them. |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
221
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:52:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:DS 10 wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:Do I have any excuse for AFKing nope.
Why do I do it then. I would be a idiot not to take advantage of free SP while I am studying and working on projects or writing papers.
I am doing other things more important. It is easy to once in awhile look back see I am not in a game anymore put myself in one and go back to my college school work.
It is a smart thing to do. I am not going out of my way to do it. But I am not burning up time I could spend on school work.
Do people have ligit reasons to be mad at AFKers? Yes
Do people give stupid excuses? yes. You went over some of them.
But you also gave some stupid analogies to.
You called people idiots, cheaters, and liers through out your whole video. Maybe they where not your direct words of choice but they where hinted at. Example: Steroids in Sports talk.
People are not idiots, cheaters or lieing when they do it. So calling someone that is just a fabricated thought.
Yes people may hate them. You could say it is poor gamers etiquette. It is something that should not be in the game. It hurts overall gameplay. These are things it does.
But it is a smart way for poeple to do other things at home while gaining the competitive SP they want. Saying having more SP does not help you say competitive is just a lie. It does. someone with 10% damage mods vs someone with 5% has a big advantage.
Do I think CCP needs to fix AFKing. Yes. But I would be stupid not to use it to my advantage while it allows me to work on my school work. Or browse these forums for fun. How is AFKing not like steroids? It's a way to get better faster than doing it legitimately. I don't call people idiots. I don't insinuate that people are idiots. I say that AFKing is boosting and should be frowned upon. Also at the end of the video, I'm pretty sure I say "to each their own". If people want to AFK, by all means go for it, but that does not mean that I have to condone it or agree with it. I tried to make it clear that my stance is against it, but I don't hate the players that do it. If you didn't get that from the video, you didn't pay close enough attention. Steroids is banned from sports and considered cheating by the league for each sport. AFKing is a mechanic in DUST 514. CCP has not banned it. Or called it a cheat/exploit. It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play. It is like creatine if you want to use that annalogy. Some people frown on it others except it. But it is legal.
The analogy wasn't meant to be examined by microscope. You get the point. Steroids = gain with less effort. Jesus. |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
221
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them.
"CCP put it in the game! It's a legitimate method!"
If it was so legitimate, CCP wouldn't be fixing it. It's a shame it took so long for them to do something about it. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
163
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:55:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I lose out on plenty of SP because I don't AFK when I'm too busy to play, I don't see why people feel entitled to rewards that they didn't earn Same. That and the fact that I'm not the kind of person who will negatively effect my team's ability to win for my own personal gain. I'm not throwing my team under the bus for the sake of my own multi-tasking efficiency. Some do, though... and it says a lot about the kind of folks they are; especially the ones that are just downright a-holes about it their AFK endeavors.
you aren't winning anything. You are winding down testing a beta build as a player tester.
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mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
163
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:57:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It is a acceptable and legitimate way to play This about sums up AFKers, you can't reason with them.
You can reason with me. But like DS said, it's like pepsi and coke. apple and google.
So one could say, you can't be reasoned with :) |
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