I love it when heavies come together :D *warmfuzzies*

well, who else would stick up for us?


it's us and a few dedicated logi-pets against the seething masses of skilless Assault suit users who desire to be able to 1v1 everything with an AR

whats wrong is im ok with heavies with 1200~ hp but 1400~ is way to much but that extra 200 hp matters.

1400 would be a godsend, have you SEEN the flaylocks stats?!?!

if the laser rifle got nerfed, all the viziam using pricks will be switching to it as it's ANOTHER "i win" button against heavies

They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.

Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows)

used to be that way, then AR guys QQ'd because the couldn't solo kill everything, and since then, every new build has meant another nerf to the heavy.


for the SP and isk requirments, it should dominate the field, we put more time, money, and dedication into the heavy suit then anyone other then HAV drivers, yet we are the most hated on and nerfed class out there

Well, I fully agree that they shouldn't be 1v1'd by anything other than a HAV or another Heavy.

Though they shouldn't have anywhere near the mobility I've seen some of them with, they should move like a stump when not in a vehicle or as I've said before "a semi-mobile bollard"

used to be that way, then AR guys QQ'd because the couldn't solo kill everything, and since then, every new build has meant another nerf to the heavy.


for the SP and isk requirments, it should dominate the field, we put more time, money, and dedication into the heavy suit then anyone other then HAV drivers, yet we are the most hated on and nerfed class out there

They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.

Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows)

They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.

Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows)

mid level rails do over 1400 damage per that's a one shot on any heavy so say what!? toe to toe it falls way short and heavies are not meant to go toe to toe with HAVs. if a person can go toe to toe with a tank then the game isn't meant for multiplayer game play its a solo game. heavies are meant to guard areas and take some small arms fire.

No other classification of personal armor can claim to be able to stand toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles and survive.

I never understood that. In the dev posts said that the game rewards you for specializing, but anyone who isn't a shield tanking AR humper gets the nerf bat. Heavies got good at what they were doing until those ADHD CoD ******s cried, tanks dominated because they were to lazy to spec into AV so militia missiles and AV 'nades got a huge buff, and my beloved Mass Driver is probably next since it's going to be more reliable now that the splash damage glitch is fixed. You don't keep players by punishing them for playing your game the correct way.

~backinmydaytalk~

As a matter of fact, back during he very first build of the closed beta, I think balance was at its closest to being perfect.

Heavies were literal tanks, tanks were feared, assaults were fast and capable, scouts were lightning bolts...

The game was much faster and intense, heavies had to be chipped away at and avoided in CQC, but the scout could fly in nimbly and jam a shotgun into his face and finish him off quick, and assaults always had an interesting gun dance with the higher health and faster strafe.

Iwosh we would go back to that high intensity model, with high stats for everything depending on its role...

As a matter of fact, back during he very first build of the closed beta, I think balance was at its closest to being perfect.

Heavies were literal tanks, tanks were feared, assaults were fast and capable, scouts were lightning bolts...

The game was much faster and intense, heavies had to be chipped away at and avoided in CQC, but the scout could fly in nimbly and jam a shotgun into his face and finish him off quick, and assaults always had an interesting gun dance with the higher health and faster strafe.

Iwosh we would go back to that high intensity model, with high stats for everything depending on its role...

As a matter of fact, back during he very first build of the closed beta, I think balance was at its closest to being perfect.

Heavies were literal tanks, tanks were feared, assaults were fast and capable, scouts were lightning bolts...

The game was much faster and intense, heavies had to be chipped away at and avoided in CQC, but the scout could fly in nimbly and jam a shotgun into his face and finish him off quick, and assaults always had an interesting gun dance with the higher health and faster strafe.

Iwosh we would go back to that high intensity model, with high stats for everything depending on its role...

As a matter of fact, back during he very first build of the closed beta, I think balance was at its closest to being perfect.

Heavies were literal tanks, tanks were feared, assaults were fast and capable, scouts were lightning bolts...

The game was much faster and intense, heavies had to be chipped away at and avoided in CQC, but the scout could fly in nimbly and jam a shotgun into his face and finish him off quick, and assaults always had an interesting gun dance with the higher health and faster strafe.

Iwosh we would go back to that high intensity model, with high stats for everything depending on its role...

Apparently even CCP thinks that the Heavy shouldn't be 1v1'd by less than a HAV (if that).

but people actually had to think and get a niche in the game in stead of skillin into AR assault "i win"

we all know we can't have that without twitch playing scrubs bitching and moaning

you know there are more vehicles then just HAVs. let me brake this down for you.
LAVs even proto have a really tough time with MLT tanks just living. LAV and heavy yea sure they as somewhat on par. LAV proto vs STD HAV are you going to bet that the LAV is going to win and actually kill the HAV? if so they i would love for you to take my HAV on with a LAV for 100mil ISK.

meh they are the bigger combat threat in the vehicle chain but toe to toe with a LAV turret yea they stand a chance, toe to toe with the Large turret of a HAV your insane.

See? That's the game that was advertised to me, not this rambo on crack run and gun, take 3-shots and your dead crap that it's turning into. This is supposed to be a strafing shooter, a thinking man's game. If I didn't want to think, I'd go and play CoD even though I'm old enough to be those kids' fathers.

But what about that awkward circling dance of spraying/reloading and repeat thing?

Lol.

Good idea!

i read about CCP making a FPS shooter in the EVE universe and thought "limitless possibilites and a shitton of different ways to kill things"

the CoD guys arrived in the open beta and it was downhill from there