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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:04:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cosgar wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Cosgar wrote:I can hear the "OMG! Nerfz Heaviez!" threads being furiously typed now. lol, we heavies will just go hulk mode on them and tell em to shove it where the sun don't shine Unless they took my advice and made heavies suspectable to AV weapons. hahahaha AV weapons? Not sure if serious. Remember when heavies had that huge HP pool before the nerf? My suggestion was that they go back to that but allow stuff like AV nades' and swarm launchers target them with scaled down damage. It would have been a good counter while making more people spec into AV so tanks didn't have to get nerfed. Despite my forum trolling, I'm a strong advocate against nerfing unless it's something game breaking like sharpshooter.
I agree wholeheartedly with you which is why I started a thread dedicated to this very topic (I hadn't found any other thread that proposed the same idea as the point of the thread too else I would've bumped that one).
I also feel that they should become more mobility challenged than they are currently though (as an offset to giving them ******-a-tank). |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:06:00 -
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They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:13:00 -
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Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) used to be that way, then AR guys QQ'd because the couldn't solo kill everything, and since then, every new build has meant another nerf to the heavy. for the SP and isk requirments, it should dominate the field, we put more time, money, and dedication into the heavy suit then anyone other then HAV drivers, yet we are the most hated on and nerfed class out there
Well, I fully agree that they shouldn't be 1v1'd by anything other than a HAV or another Heavy.
Though they shouldn't have anywhere near the mobility I've seen some of them with, they should move like a stump when not in a vehicle or as I've said before "a semi-mobile bollard" |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
126
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:23:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) mid level rails do over 1400 damage per that's a one shot on any heavy so say what!? toe to toe it falls way short and heavies are not meant to go toe to toe with HAVs. if a person can go toe to toe with a tank then the game isn't meant for multiplayer game play its a solo game. heavies are meant to guard areas and take some small arms fire.
Marketplace Description for Heavy Dropsuit wrote:
No other classification of personal armor can claim to be able to stand toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles and survive.
Apparently even CCP thinks that the Heavy shouldn't be 1v1'd by less than a HAV (if that). |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
126
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:25:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) As a matter of fact, back during he very first build of the closed beta, I think balance was at its closest to being perfect. Heavies were literal tanks, tanks were feared, assaults were fast and capable, scouts were lightning bolts... The game was much faster and intense, heavies had to be chipped away at and avoided in CQC, but the scout could fly in nimbly and jam a shotgun into his face and finish him off quick, and assaults always had an interesting gun dance with the higher health and faster strafe. Iwosh we would go back to that high intensity model, with high stats for everything depending on its role...
IDK, I personally think that Dust would be nothing but better if it were slower and more deliberate, it still feels too arcadey IMHO. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
126
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:46:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) mid level rails do over 1400 damage per that's a one shot on any heavy so say what!? toe to toe it falls way short and heavies are not meant to go toe to toe with HAVs. if a person can go toe to toe with a tank then the game isn't meant for multiplayer game play its a solo game. heavies are meant to guard areas and take some small arms fire. Marketplace Description for Heavy Dropsuit wrote:
No other classification of personal armor can claim to be able to stand toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles and survive.
Apparently even CCP thinks that the Heavy shouldn't be 1v1'd by less than a HAV (if that). you know there are more vehicles then just HAVs. let me brake this down for you. LAVs even proto have a really tough time with MLT tanks just living. LAV and heavy yea sure they as somewhat on par. LAV proto vs STD HAV are you going to bet that the LAV is going to win and actually kill the HAV? if so they i would love for you to take my HAV on with a LAV for 100mil ISK.
No, this is what I think should happen to a LAV that tries to 1v1 a Heavy.
While I do understand that there are more vehicles than just HAVs, I also understand that HAVs are the only really combat performing vehicle. Yes, I am aware that Dropships and LAVs both have turrets, though they both are best "speedtanked". |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
126
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:00:00 -
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WAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
I CAN"T KILL A BATTLESHIP IN MY CRUISER!!!!! CCP NERF BATTLESHIPS!!!! I SHOULD BE ABLE TO KILL A BATTLESHIP SOLO WITHOUT RELOADING AT ALL!!!!!
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ I'M NOT GOING TO STOP THE QQ UNTIL YOU NERF BATTLESHIPS INTO THE GROUND CCP, NERFHAMMER THEM NAO!!!!1!!!!!!!ONE!!!11!!!ELEVEN!!!!!11111!!!!
GET IT?
What do you think CCP's response to this post would've been? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
126
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:13:00 -
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I will now forever have Guard rapping seared into my brain.
Why? It was hilarious, but why?? |
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