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ladwar
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:28:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cosgar wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Cosgar wrote:I can hear the "OMG! Nerfz Heaviez!" threads being furiously typed now. lol, we heavies will just go hulk mode on them and tell em to shove it where the sun don't shine Unless they took my advice and made heavies suspectable to AV weapons. hahahaha AV weapons? Not sure if serious.
hm.. yea AV nades should work on something with that much hp. that's more then a free fit lav |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:00:00 -
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that is a huge amount of HP for a single person walking around and could take a forge gun round and still live I have a problem with that. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:09:00 -
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Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:ladwar wrote:that is a huge amount of HP for a single person walking around. as it should be
sorry wasn't finished typing.. the darn forum likes to save halve of what I type and post that.
but should a person be able to take a anti-vehicle round and still have more HP then some scouts start with? |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:03:00 -
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Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:I love it when heavies come together :D *warmfuzzies* well, who else would stick up for us?  it's us and a few dedicated logi-pets against the seething masses of skilless Assault suit users who desire to be able to 1v1 everything with an AR
whats wrong is im ok with heavies with 1200~ hp but 1400~ is way to much but that extra 200 hp matters. btw im not an assault type guy, im logi-pet when im bored but stick to scouts and vehicles. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:18:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows)
mid level rails do over 1400 damage per that's a one shot on any heavy so say what!? toe to toe it falls way short and heavies are not meant to go toe to toe with HAVs. if a person can go toe to toe with a tank then the game isn't meant for multiplayer game play its a solo game. heavies are meant to guard areas and take some small arms fire. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:34:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) mid level rails do over 1400 damage per that's a one shot on any heavy so say what!? toe to toe it falls way short and heavies are not meant to go toe to toe with HAVs. if a person can go toe to toe with a tank then the game isn't meant for multiplayer game play its a solo game. heavies are meant to guard areas and take some small arms fire. Marketplace Description for Heavy Dropsuit wrote:
No other classification of personal armor can claim to be able to stand toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles and survive.
Apparently even CCP thinks that the Heavy shouldn't be 1v1'd by less than a HAV (if that).
you know there are more vehicles then just HAVs. let me brake this down for you.
LAVs even proto have a really tough time with MLT tanks just living. LAV and heavy yea sure they as somewhat on par. LAV proto vs STD HAV are you going to bet that the LAV is going to win and actually kill the HAV? if so they i would love for you to take my HAV on with a LAV for 100mil ISK. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 02:02:00 -
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meh they are the bigger combat threat in the vehicle chain but toe to toe with a LAV turret yea they stand a chance, toe to toe with the Large turret of a HAV your insane. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:16:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ladwar wrote:meh they are the bigger combat threat in the vehicle chain but toe to toe with a LAV turret yea they stand a chance, toe to toe with the Large turret of a HAV your insane. I think heavies should be able to survive just about anything 1v1 (except SG scouts) within the HMG's optimal range short of a small blaster turret mounted LAV, but be able to easily got down to 2-3 infantry depending on their weapons.
so a shotgun does more DPS then large blaster turret or more per shot damage then a large rail turret? if so i want that shotgun really bad. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:35:00 -
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110%( shield body)/165%(head)/94% armor body/145%head armor 6 rounds per shot max of 46?for proto breach so you could get 655 on shield w/ a head shot and 488 head on armor so it would take 3 shots to takedown the heavy in question with a breach meaning you would have to reload and be a good shoot w/ max skills and at least 2 damage mods. in that same time a large blaster could kill at least 4 of these heavies and rail 5 if all shoots hit possible more depending on fittings. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:04:00 -
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Rynx Sinfar wrote:Might be just me but the HMG seems to run out of ammo slower than the AR (I know one has a much bigger ammo load but I mean in terms of over time). The AR I quickly run out and need a supply source, I think it's also why so many people run hives currently it seems.
Also the Commando suit is currently SoonTM is my understanding
2 light weapon slot is not that all impressive most people want it to have a shotgun or an AR as a sidearm. |
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