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Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:17:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
don't remember seeing this, PLEASE let it be true! |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:22:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I can hear the "OMG! Nerfz Heaviez!" threads being furiously typed now.
lol, we heavies will just go hulk mode on them and tell em to shove it where the sun don't shine |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:03:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Cosgar wrote:I can hear the "OMG! Nerfz Heaviez!" threads being furiously typed now. lol, we heavies will just go hulk mode on them and tell em to shove it where the sun don't shine That is good. Now we won't have to swim across the river of fat boy tears that were drowning these forums daily with their they are so UP posts. Was getting quite sick of those.
only happened because assault boys QQ ed so much and we got nerfed at the start of EVERY SINGLE BUILD! |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:04:00 -
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ladwar wrote:that is a huge amount of HP for a single person walking around.
as it should be |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:12:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:ladwar wrote:that is a huge amount of HP for a single person walking around. as it should be sorry wasn't finished typing.. the darn forum likes to save halve of what I type and post that. but should a person be able to take a anti-vehicle round and still have more HP then some scouts start with?
seeing as we are gods aweful slow compared to the bunny hoppers? yes
we rely on that HP to make up for the fact that we are bullet sponges |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:23:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Do you guys know why there are so many heavies in pubs? because there is three other classes filled with scrubs and glass cannon suit designs running toward them in a straight line. its bloated vet heavy egos and given blueberry heavies a false sense of security. we are not a competitive suit at the proto level, we really need support to help us shine. which is fine, I just want to know why im spending double to tripple in isk and sp but dont see more preformance.
becauyse it's an ammar suit and ****.
(new conclusion after reading over all the stuff about ammar ships in EVE, seems CCP shafts the ammar whenever they can) |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:32:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Do you guys know why there are so many heavies in pubs? because there is three other classes filled with scrubs and glass cannon suit designs running toward them in a straight line. its bloated vet heavy egos and given blueberry heavies a false sense of security. we are not a competitive suit at the proto level, we really need support to help us shine. which is fine, I just want to know why im spending double to tripple in isk and sp but dont see more preformance.
Careful now, bringing logic into DUST forums is something that is frowned upon lol But yea, I agree 100% with you, and also add, while heavies need support, Assault players don't...funny how someone with lower HP don't need the same support as someone with 1000+ HP...huh. I heard the price of suits were lowered, but I've yet to see confirmation from CCP about it.
lol, that will bring a lynch mob of assault suit down on you |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:47:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:I love it when heavies come together :D *warmfuzzies*
well, who else would stick up for us?
it's us and a few dedicated logi-pets against the seething masses of skilless Assault suit users who desire to be able to 1v1 everything with an AR |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:05:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:I love it when heavies come together :D *warmfuzzies* well, who else would stick up for us? it's us and a few dedicated logi-pets against the seething masses of skilless Assault suit users who desire to be able to 1v1 everything with an AR whats wrong is im ok with heavies with 1200~ hp but 1400~ is way to much but that extra 200 hp matters.
1400 would be a godsend, have you SEEN the flaylocks stats?!?!
if the laser rifle got nerfed, all the viziam using pricks will be switching to it as it's ANOTHER "i win" button against heavies |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:09:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows)
used to be that way, then AR guys QQ'd because the couldn't solo kill everything, and since then, every new build has meant another nerf to the heavy.
for the SP and isk requirments, it should dominate the field, we put more time, money, and dedication into the heavy suit then anyone other then HAV drivers, yet we are the most hated on and nerfed class out there |
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Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:14:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) used to be that way, then AR guys QQ'd because the couldn't solo kill everything, and since then, every new build has meant another nerf to the heavy. for the SP and isk requirments, it should dominate the field, we put more time, money, and dedication into the heavy suit then anyone other then HAV drivers, yet we are the most hated on and nerfed class out there Well, I fully agree that they shouldn't be 1v1'd by anything other than a HAV or another Heavy. Though they shouldn't have anywhere near the mobility I've seen some of them with, they should move like a stump when not in a vehicle or as I've said before "a semi-mobile bollard"
those fast moving ones are shield tanked and probably have passive stamina skills to an extent (i do just that, eextreme difference to the old armor POS) |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:24:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) used to be that way, then AR guys QQ'd because the couldn't solo kill everything, and since then, every new build has meant another nerf to the heavy. for the SP and isk requirments, it should dominate the field, we put more time, money, and dedication into the heavy suit then anyone other then HAV drivers, yet we are the most hated on and nerfed class out there I never understood that. In the dev posts said that the game rewards you for specializing, but anyone who isn't a shield tanking AR humper gets the nerf bat. Heavies got good at what they were doing until those ADHD CoD ******s cried, tanks dominated because they were to lazy to spec into AV so militia missiles and AV 'nades got a huge buff, and my beloved Mass Driver is probably next since it's going to be more reliable now that the splash damage glitch is fixed. You don't keep players by punishing them for playing your game the correct way.
totally agree with this |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:26:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:They should be able to stand toe-to-toe with a HAV, in fact, HAV's and Heavies are the only things that should have a snowballs chance in hell of 1v1ing a Heavy.
Increase armor tank to 1000STD-1500ADV-2000PRO and decrease movement so that they are just barely mobile (same speed as now if they go full CKC in the lows) As a matter of fact, back during he very first build of the closed beta, I think balance was at its closest to being perfect. Heavies were literal tanks, tanks were feared, assaults were fast and capable, scouts were lightning bolts... The game was much faster and intense, heavies had to be chipped away at and avoided in CQC, but the scout could fly in nimbly and jam a shotgun into his face and finish him off quick, and assaults always had an interesting gun dance with the higher health and faster strafe. Iwosh we would go back to that high intensity model, with high stats for everything depending on its role...
but people actually had to think and get a niche in the game in stead of skillin into AR assault "i win"
we all know we can't have that without twitch playing scrubs bitching and moaning |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 02:15:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote: but people actually had to think and get a niche in the game in stead of skillin into AR assault "i win"
we all know we can't have that without twitch playing scrubs bitching and moaning
See? That's the game that was advertised to me, not this rambo on crack run and gun, take 3-shots and your dead crap that it's turning into. This is supposed to be a strafing shooter, a thinking man's game. If I didn't want to think, I'd go and play CoD even though I'm old enough to be those kids' fathers.
i read about CCP making a FPS shooter in the EVE universe and thought "limitless possibilites and a shitton of different ways to kill things"
the CoD guys arrived in the open beta and it was downhill from there |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 07:05:00 -
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Cruor Abominare wrote:Cosgar wrote:ladwar wrote:meh they are the bigger combat threat in the vehicle chain but toe to toe with a LAV turret yea they stand a chance, toe to toe with the Large turret of a HAV your insane. I think heavies should be able to survive just about anything 1v1 (except SG scouts) within the HMG's optimal range short of a small blaster turret mounted LAV, but be able to easily got down to 2-3 infantry depending on their weapons. This is silly. You basically create a situation in that there is now no reason to run anything besides heavies, because you would need to run 32 v 16 heavies. The obvious solution is to then just match them in heavies. Welcome to Heavy 514. They heavy should always be a situational role and clearly be punished outside of its limited role.
i detect an AR user who believes he should be able to 1v1 anything |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 08:34:00 -
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Snagman 313 wrote:Rejoice my Heavy brothers and sisters!!!
Once more we shall be feared on the battlefield!
Like the times of legend in Replication the shriek of our HMG's will send shivers down the spine of anyone foolish enough to come into close range. I will no longer stand fast behind cover, I will march unto the breach and visit destruction upon our enemies.
The reaper will sail on a river of tears by our hands and the QQing will fall on deaf ears as for the last 6 months the nerfhammer has been brought to bear on the Heavy. But we endured my brethren we held the line, we stood against the HAV's, we marched over the deadmans land under the threat of Viziams and Redliners and we would not go quietly!!!
Terror is returning to the battle and it is THE HEAVY!!!!
Snagman 313
lol, +1 |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 09:14:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:You'll be lucky to get it by the end of 2014
yeah.....DEV notes and stuff would be nice
*looks around for a dev or CPM*
nope |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:00:00 -
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Jax Saurian wrote:Umm I've not read this entire thread (not enough time) but alot of people say that the heavy will be balanced out because of the range nerf to HMGs. My question is what if the heavy uses an AR? have you thought of that? Have you heard of the Commando suit? It's a heavy suit that removes the heavy weapon slot and replaces it with two light weapon slots so dual ARs are possible. But I believe CCP will make sure this is Balanced enough. Heavies = Badasses
6 months ago? yes. today? lol, don't make me laugh. a single assault can kill a heavy if he's smart |
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