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slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:18:00 -
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so, I was reading templar one, and this Amaar officer said this to the first immortal soldier. "all life came from dust, but now you cannot go back to it". Obviously, the name of the game is a throwback to this passage. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:21:00 -
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http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1191704-0/page/all |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:22:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:so, I was reading templar one, and this Amaar officer said this to the first immortal soldier. "all life came from dust, but now you cannot go back to it". Obviously, the name of the game is a throwback to this passage. Shiiiaaat I guess, I just play the game |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:26:00 -
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Congrats, you've figured out the easy bit - now tell us what 514 means and we'll be impressed. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:29:00 -
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514 is so mysterious, not even several CCP members know.
I suspect this is why Grideris isn't on the CPM, he knows. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:30:00 -
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Quote:Dust, as in Genesis 2:7 And the lord god formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
and 514 as in Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead
Immortal clones -> Dust 5:14 |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:30:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Congrats, you've figured out the easy bit - now tell us what 514 means and we'll be impressed. It means that one day, the CCP devs were high on whatever they smoke in Iceland, and Unicorn said, "hey, hey guys, lets "snort ," lets make up a random number for our game, then tell all our gamers that it means something". |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1191704-0/page/all Possible 514 meanings in here guys... |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:35:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Quote:Dust, as in Genesis 2:7 And the lord god formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
and 514 as in Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead
Immortal clones -> Dust 5:14 Good fit, but probably just coincidence. CCP have said that 514 comes from part of New Eden's lore, not the actual bible. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:38:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Cosgar wrote:Quote:Dust, as in Genesis 2:7 And the lord god formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
and 514 as in Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead
Immortal clones -> Dust 5:14 Good fit, but probably just coincidence. CCP have said that 514 comes from part of New Eden's lore, not the actual bible. Amarr are pretty religious, so I would assume there's a similar passage in their bible. Also, Amarr were strong advocates against using clones until they were defeated. Seems fitting. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:40:00 -
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Revelation-9-6 "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."
I am not sure which Amarr scripture repeats this statement. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Revelation-9-6 "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."
I am not sure which Amarr scripture repeats this statement. wolf, y u so popular! |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:49:00 -
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What I've found interesting is that many 514 explanations make complete sense, so there could be multiple reasons. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:50:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What I've found interesting is that many 514 explanations make complete sense, so there could be multiple reasons. or maybe we're just finding reasons that don't really exist. It is kinda cool that 514 means so many things though |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:56:00 -
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Quote:1. Part of it takes place in Intaki 2. There is a ishukune space station in the trailer. There is none atm. 3. Ishukone won the blind auction the rights to "develop" the Intaki system and this system only. Just look at the news archive on this. 4. Read also the chronicle Blind Auction on the above. 5. Ishukone developed and marketed the pod technology after acquiring it from the Jovians. 6. The only way you would call something 5-14 in Eve is.... Planet 5 moon 14 or planet 5 belt 14. Look point #2....right.
(Future) Ishukone Station at Intaki 5-14 is where the new cloning technology is going to be developed/invented. DUST 514 is lke the codename of the project like the Spartan project in Halo. Now you know where 514 refers to. If you figure out DUST I will give you a cookie. Makes sense to me. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:59:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Quote:1. Part of it takes place in Intaki 2. There is a ishukune space station in the trailer. There is none atm. 3. Ishukone won the blind auction the rights to "develop" the Intaki system and this system only. Just look at the news archive on this. 4. Read also the chronicle Blind Auction on the above. 5. Ishukone developed and marketed the pod technology after acquiring it from the Jovians. 6. The only way you would call something 5-14 in Eve is.... Planet 5 moon 14 or planet 5 belt 14. Look point #2....right.
(Future) Ishukone Station at Intaki 5-14 is where the new cloning technology is going to be developed/invented. DUST 514 is lke the codename of the project like the Spartan project in Halo. Now you know where 514 refers to. If you figure out DUST I will give you a cookie. Makes sense to me. yay now we know everything
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3630
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:06:00 -
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Except the Gen 1s that are going crazy are scribbling 514 on the walls in their own blood. The sane ones still have no effing idea what it means.
Also its pronounced
Five-One-Four
Not Five Fourteen nor Fivehundred and Fourteen. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:08:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Congrats, you've figured out the easy bit - now tell us what 514 means and we'll be impressed.
514 is how many times you have to tell the noobs 'its a beta! WORK IN PROGRESS!!' before it gets into their thick skull. |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:08:00 -
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When the Ishukone corp took control of Intaki, the survivors of the assault fought back calling themselves the DUST of Intaki. 514 seems to have two sources. Planet 5 moon 14 which is not likely and probably just coincidence. When the four leaders of the empires met in secret, Empress Jamyl Sarum asked if any of then during their research into the new sleeper implant technology seen any odd behavior of their test subjects writing 514 on the walls with their own blood. It is theorized that the number means something about the genome. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:12:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:When the Ishukone corp took control of Intaki, the survivors of the assault fought back calling themselves the DUST of Intaki. 514 seems to have two sources. Planet 5 moon 14 which is not likely and probably just coincidence. When the four leaders of the empires met in secret, Empress Jamyl Sarum asked if any of then during their research into the new sleeper implant technology seen any odd behavior of their test subjects writing 514 on the walls with their own blood. It is theorized that the number means something about the genome. what is your source. Also I don't think Intaki has anything to do with this. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:15:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:When the Ishukone corp took control of Intaki, the survivors of the assault fought back calling themselves the DUST of Intaki. 514 seems to have two sources. Planet 5 moon 14 which is not likely and probably just coincidence. When the four leaders of the empires met in secret, Empress Jamyl Sarum asked if any of then during their research into the new sleeper implant technology seen any odd behavior of their test subjects writing 514 on the walls with their own blood. It is theorized that the number means something about the genome. what is your source. Also I don't think Intaki has anything to do with this.
Original trailer and back stories on eve and news events. Lost of archived stuff I don't have time to look for it now. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
146
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:27:00 -
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First gens get glitched out and partially possessed by virtual Sleeper phantoms.
Whatever 514 is, it has relevance to Sleepers. I very much doubt it has anything to do with the Caldari. |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:38:00 -
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Am I the only one that see's all these biblical clues? EVE: adam and eve, New Eden: Garden of Eden.( garden of eden being the old eden.) and Dust: Ephesians 5:14 |
Sev Alcatraz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:46:00 -
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It's 5-1-4 not 514 or 500-14 nor 5:14
Five one four
If anything it is a code |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:57:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:It's 5-1-4 not 514 or 500-14 nor 5:14
Five one four
If anything it is a code Then why doesn't the title or anything else, for that matter say 5-1-4? |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
933
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:00:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:It's 5-1-4 not 514 or 500-14 nor 5:14
Source for dismissing variations on interpretation of the digits? |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:02:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:From the 514 Chronicle: Quote:"Those implants carry the fragmented consciousness of the Sleepers within them," said Sarum. "In some of them, the Sleeper presence is so strong that it can overwhelm the implant's host."
Heth's brow furrowed and his eyes hardened.
"What's more," continued Sarum, "all Sleeper technology has these fragments within it. The Empyreans who today wage war on the Sleepers' outposts to harvest their technology are not, in fact, mere resource gatherers, nor are they simple thieves. They are committing something far worse than theft."
"Genocide," said Heth. Sleeper consciousness are secretly creeping into these immortal soldiers of New Eden, this may or may not be voluntary (because they were taken back by capsuleers) Quote: "If you don't believe me," she said presently, "then answer me this: has the number 514 played into any of your lost cases?"
The atmosphere in the room sharpened perceptibly.
Heth leaned back in his chair and crossed his arms. At length he began to speak.
"It's been happening since the beginning," he said. "At first we thought it was localized to a particular place. Our first two cases came from the same barracks. We thought it was something a few of them had seen on joint operations. Some kind of graffiti they'd seen during a traumatic moment on Caldari Prime."
Sarum was staring at him intently.
"Then it started popping up everywhere," Heth continued. "Always the same."
"Blood-red skies, strange beings, and the number 514, often written in blood," said Shakor.
Heth looked at him, eyebrows raised. Roden showed no expression, but his eyes darted back and forth between the two men.
"Exactly that," said Heth.
Empress Sarum nodded.
Before the moment and all its implications were allowed to go any further, Roden spoke.
"What does that prove, though?"
"I beg your pardon, Mister President?" asked Sarum.
"The implants give them strange visions," said Roden. "How do you know for sure that Sleeper consciousness is the culprit, and not some," he made a flippant gesture, "random subroutine implanted as a failsafe by their engineers? For that matter, how do you know this isn't merely a quirk of the technology, soon to be ironed out by engineers? Surely those of us who are old enough GÇö" and here he nodded his head pointedly at Shakor, "GÇöremember the spectacular capsule failures of the Caldari-Gallente War. To my recollection those stories weren't much better."
The fragments pf sleeper consciousness are give the soldier strange visions: Blood-red skies (perfect fitting description of class 6 w-spaces), strange beings (could refer to anything from the sleeper culture that is so foreign and alien to them; they are remembering fragments of memories from the sleeper consciousness), and the number 514, often written in blood. The number 514 is therefore (originates from) a significant number to the sleepers, it is so significant that it is simultaneously experienced by soldiers all over the cluster who carry only fragments of sleeper consciousness. to be continued
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:03:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote: This is a hugh MAYBE |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:05:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:In this interview at 12:05 he begins talking about the name Dust 514. The meaning of the number 514 is left to us to figure out, "it has a deep meaning". As for Dust, it is an indicator of the enviroment we will be in (dusty envioments...), also a reference to "ashes to ashes, dust to dust" which describes the harsh life that clone soldiers have to live: death after death.
According to CCP, "Dust" is merely a reference to "ashes to ashes dust to dust" and this could be from any of the biblical references people have dug out.
The secret lies in the number five one four. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
933
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:06:00 -
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Speculation thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1191704 |
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