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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:08:00 -
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I think we can safely say that the meaning of "Dust" is merely chosen because of the multiplicity of references it has.
Unless "Dust" is another codename for something else, like "514". However there is no evidence to support this possibility. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
154
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:18:00 -
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THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT. DO. THEY. MEAN???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVPT0JT1dOw
Lol mason is probably a CCP dev, I wouldn't put it above them to brainwash one of there members into assassinating people based off the numbers 514 |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:40:00 -
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mysterious numbers
sleeper agents
SLEEPER agents
OMG |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
934
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:42:00 -
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I really like that in Mandarin the number are homophonous with words. 5 is a homophone for "not" and 4 for "death".
Some interpret 514 as "I want to die" through this homophone system, I think it could equally mean "Not One Death" or "I will not die".
Need some Mandarin homophone experts all up in this thread.
EDIT: Also, 510 is a homophone for "I love you"... If the 0 is you, is 514 "I love death"? IDEK. Need to do some research. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.23 02:05:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I really like that in Mandarin the number are homophonous with words. 5 is a homophone for "not" and 4 for "death".
Some interpret 514 as "I want to die" through this homophone system, I think it could equally mean "Not One Death" or "I will not die".
Need some Mandarin homophone experts all up in this thread.
EDIT: Also, 510 is a homophone for "I love you"... If the 0 is you, is 514 "I love death"? IDEK. Need to do some research because this is based on substitution of words where a more detailed understanding of the pronunciation is required.
:( I think he figured it out. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:03:00 -
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Mandarin speaker here. The 514 "don't wanna die" interpretation is merely a homophone, and nothing more than that. The Chinese likes to play with homophones and convert popular phrases into numbers or vice versa, but any meanings given to the numbers in this way are as good as puns (it is essentially what it is). Although traditionally it is recognised that the number four which sounds like "death" is an unlucky number. Certainly it is one way of interpreting the number 514, but it is almost certainly the number 514 was not invented to contain these exact meanings. This homophone system is never used to carry exact meanings as the numbers can be always be interpreted in different ways. This is nothing more than pun or wordplay, the original 514 should carry something more definite, more exact, and it should not be something that can be loosely understood using the Chinese homophone interpretation.
Furthermore, nobody writes in puns.
So to conclude, this is an interesting interpretation, but this shouldn't be the true meaning of 514.
Chinese language is not some magical OMG EXOTIC ALIEN LANGUAGE that automatically gives meaning to everything unknown. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:06:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:Furthermore, nobody writes in puns. You must not be familiar with CCP |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:07:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:Furthermore, nobody writes in puns. You must not be familiar with CCP To be honest, the Chinese interpretation is rather tasteless as a pun. It is rather "forced" if you know what I mean. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1514
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:10:00 -
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because of Bacon |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:11:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:because of Bacon Warlord, can we talk about this in the locker room? |
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:13:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:because of Bacon Warlord, can we talk about this in the locker room?
they need to know the truth |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:22:00 -
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"Don't want to die" is the primary motivation for almost all of Templar One's behaviours.
DUST 514 is developed in Shanghai and the name could be a nod to this.
FTR: I don't think this is THE answer. Apparently devs have said that EVE players have enough information to figure out what the reference is and I would facepalm pretty hard if the Sleepers were intentionally making this reference... but I would like it if this homophone was consciously included as one of the possible layers of meaning. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:25:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:"Don't want to die" is the primary motivation for almost all of Templar One's behaviours.
DUST 514 is developed in Shanghai and the name could be a nod to this.
FTR: I don't think this is THE answer. Apparently devs have said that EVE players have enough information to figure out what the reference is and I would facepalm pretty hard if the Sleepers were intentionally making this reference... but I would like it if this homophone was consciously included as one of the possible layers of meaning.
I think we should think along the line of: where do the numbers mean in sleeper language (because this is where it is from) |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:29:00 -
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I don't believe we have much information on the sleeper language so "EVE players can figure it out" would be misdirection if that's the case.
I haven't personally seen where this was stated so if anyone wants to attempt Google-Fu, that would be awesome. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:31:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I don't believe we have much information on the sleeper language so "EVE players can figure it out" would be misdirection if that's the case.
I haven't personally seen where this was stated so if anyone wants to attempt Google-Fu, that would be awesome.
Awesomeness |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.23 04:24:00 -
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Because if this next build doesn't blow my mind this game will be dust |
Nylithe Empyreal
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.04.23 04:42:00 -
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You know it must be a crazy thought that they will never be granted peace. To never die, and to only see blooded skies. I can only imagine what happened to the sleepers. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.23 04:49:00 -
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Anyone read Templar One could shine some lights on this?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0575090227 |
D1MZ1N Serass
5o1st
0
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Posted - 2013.04.23 05:23:00 -
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Just a thought that was pointed out to me a while back. Anyone considered a date perhaps...? As in May 14th -D-
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Mithridates VI
DUST 411
942
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Posted - 2013.04.23 05:33:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:
I've read Templar One and have no information about the 514. I believe there were references to 'dust to dust' and returning to dust. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.23 05:39:00 -
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D1MZ1N Serass wrote:Just a thought that was pointed out to me a while back. Anyone considered a date perhaps...? As in May 14th -D- Oh, shi- http://images.wikia.com/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/b/b3/Kevin-Butler-Mind-Blown.gif |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
942
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Posted - 2013.04.23 05:49:00 -
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This is every instance of chapter 5, verse 14 in the Bible.
I think it's the wrong place to be looking, even though the Amarr are related to modern Catholicism... but if anyone wants to arbitrarily declare a particular book the significant one, have at it. My favourite is that 514 refers to Mark 5:14:
Quote:Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened. |
skinn trayde
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.23 07:16:00 -
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I know the answer!...
In the future Heinz have rebranded as Quaife and now they have 514 varieties!
no? |
Arron Rift
Commando Perkone Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2013.04.23 07:32:00 -
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Guys, I think the 514 refers to April 14th, which I think is EVE's "birthday". Could have sworn I heard this, but I could be wrong... |
skinn trayde
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.23 07:35:00 -
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Arron Rift wrote:Guys, I think the 514 refers to April 14th, which I think is EVE's "birthday". Could have sworn I heard this, but I could be wrong...
wouldn't that be 4 not 5 tho? |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
225
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Posted - 2013.04.23 07:39:00 -
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skinn trayde wrote:Arron Rift wrote:Guys, I think the 514 refers to April 14th, which I think is EVE's "birthday". Could have sworn I heard this, but I could be wrong... wouldn't that be 4 not 5 tho? Also, EVE's 10th aniversary is May 6th - and no, that's not a coincidence . |
hooc roht
Black Soul Choir
5
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Posted - 2013.04.23 07:50:00 -
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The Devs have not even told us what the friggin name means?!?!?
THAT IS IT I AM QUITTING!!! |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
65
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Posted - 2013.04.23 07:57:00 -
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514 is a number of deaths after which character self-terminates
BTW: Have you noticed little specks of dust floating? You can notice them even on the war barge while waiting for the battles... |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.04.23 09:18:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:Furthermore, nobody writes in puns. You must not be familiar with CCP Or Studio Ghibli.
Back to the topic though, there are a lot of good theories on the significance of "514" - and as mentioned, the devs have made a specific point to correct anyone who calls it "five fourteen" in interviews.
How's this for a theory?
Planet 5 Moon 1 District 5
Are we getting MOON COMBAT? |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
65
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Posted - 2013.04.23 09:51:00 -
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In this directory within CCP domain namespace: http://ultra.ccp.com/mail/program/js/tiny_mce/plugins/xhtmlxtras/css/ is located file named popup.css It's size is ... 514 bytes Wow...
Actually it is just small part of (seemingly now defunct) RoundCube web mail client on CCP intranet... Poor server that everybody had forgotten long ago... Covered with thick layer of DUST... With #514 somewhere within it's innards...
EDIT: i'v just googled site:ccp.com 514 The search result was one hit only... |
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