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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:02:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:From the 514 Chronicle: Quote:"Those implants carry the fragmented consciousness of the Sleepers within them," said Sarum. "In some of them, the Sleeper presence is so strong that it can overwhelm the implant's host."
Heth's brow furrowed and his eyes hardened.
"What's more," continued Sarum, "all Sleeper technology has these fragments within it. The Empyreans who today wage war on the Sleepers' outposts to harvest their technology are not, in fact, mere resource gatherers, nor are they simple thieves. They are committing something far worse than theft."
"Genocide," said Heth. Sleeper consciousness are secretly creeping into these immortal soldiers of New Eden, this may or may not be voluntary (because they were taken back by capsuleers) Quote:
"If you don't believe me," she said presently, "then answer me this: has the number 514 played into any of your lost cases?"
The atmosphere in the room sharpened perceptibly.
Heth leaned back in his chair and crossed his arms. At length he began to speak.
"It's been happening since the beginning," he said. "At first we thought it was localized to a particular place. Our first two cases came from the same barracks. We thought it was something a few of them had seen on joint operations. Some kind of graffiti they'd seen during a traumatic moment on Caldari Prime."
Sarum was staring at him intently.
"Then it started popping up everywhere," Heth continued. "Always the same."
"Blood-red skies, strange beings, and the number 514, often written in blood," said Shakor.
Heth looked at him, eyebrows raised. Roden showed no expression, but his eyes darted back and forth between the two men.
"Exactly that," said Heth.
Empress Sarum nodded.
Before the moment and all its implications were allowed to go any further, Roden spoke.
"What does that prove, though?"
"I beg your pardon, Mister President?" asked Sarum.
"The implants give them strange visions," said Roden. "How do you know for sure that Sleeper consciousness is the culprit, and not some," he made a flippant gesture, "random subroutine implanted as a failsafe by their engineers? For that matter, how do you know this isn't merely a quirk of the technology, soon to be ironed out by engineers? Surely those of us who are old enough GÇö" and here he nodded his head pointedly at Shakor, "GÇöremember the spectacular capsule failures of the Caldari-Gallente War. To my recollection those stories weren't much better."
The fragments pf sleeper consciousness are give the soldier strange visions: Blood-red skies (perfect fitting description of class 6 w-spaces), strange beings (could refer to anything from the sleeper culture that is so foreign and alien to them; they are remembering fragments of memories from the sleeper consciousness), and the number 514, often written in blood. The number 514 is therefore (originates from) a significant number to the sleepers, it is so significant that it is simultaneously experienced by soldiers all over the cluster who carry only fragments of sleeper consciousness. to be continued
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:03:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:
This is a hugh MAYBE |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:05:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:In this interview at 12:05 he begins talking about the name Dust 514. The meaning of the number 514 is left to us to figure out, "it has a deep meaning". As for Dust, it is an indicator of the enviroment we will be in (dusty envioments...), also a reference to "ashes to ashes, dust to dust" which describes the harsh life that clone soldiers have to live: death after death.
According to CCP, "Dust" is merely a reference to "ashes to ashes dust to dust" and this could be from any of the biblical references people have dug out.
The secret lies in the number five one four. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:08:00 -
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I think we can safely say that the meaning of "Dust" is merely chosen because of the multiplicity of references it has.
Unless "Dust" is another codename for something else, like "514". However there is no evidence to support this possibility. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:40:00 -
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mysterious numbers
sleeper agents
SLEEPER agents
OMG |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:03:00 -
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Mandarin speaker here. The 514 "don't wanna die" interpretation is merely a homophone, and nothing more than that. The Chinese likes to play with homophones and convert popular phrases into numbers or vice versa, but any meanings given to the numbers in this way are as good as puns (it is essentially what it is). Although traditionally it is recognised that the number four which sounds like "death" is an unlucky number. Certainly it is one way of interpreting the number 514, but it is almost certainly the number 514 was not invented to contain these exact meanings. This homophone system is never used to carry exact meanings as the numbers can be always be interpreted in different ways. This is nothing more than pun or wordplay, the original 514 should carry something more definite, more exact, and it should not be something that can be loosely understood using the Chinese homophone interpretation.
Furthermore, nobody writes in puns.
So to conclude, this is an interesting interpretation, but this shouldn't be the true meaning of 514.
Chinese language is not some magical OMG EXOTIC ALIEN LANGUAGE that automatically gives meaning to everything unknown. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:07:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:Furthermore, nobody writes in puns. You must not be familiar with CCP
To be honest, the Chinese interpretation is rather tasteless as a pun. It is rather "forced" if you know what I mean. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:11:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:because of Bacon
Warlord, can we talk about this in the locker room? |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:25:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:"Don't want to die" is the primary motivation for almost all of Templar One's behaviours.
DUST 514 is developed in Shanghai and the name could be a nod to this.
FTR: I don't think this is THE answer. Apparently devs have said that EVE players have enough information to figure out what the reference is and I would facepalm pretty hard if the Sleepers were intentionally making this reference... but I would like it if this homophone was consciously included as one of the possible layers of meaning.
I think we should think along the line of: where do the numbers mean in sleeper language (because this is where it is from) |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.23 04:49:00 -
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Anyone read Templar One could shine some lights on this?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0575090227 |
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.24 12:47:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:This is getting scary now 
holy sheet
514 is everywhere |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:11:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:
This "514" turning up everywhere is just a manifestation of the principle: seek and you will find...
Well this sums everything up |
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