Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot.

I am not part of Jenza's corp by affilation, I am just a guest in Betamax as a closed beta tester involving in the testing community back then. I am there only as a welcomed Guest, I do not render political aid, I do not manage any leadership positions in the corp, I am just there to chat and help train. I will probably help field PC battles but only to get used to the systems and understand the game more.

Dude, I was ok with you being on there until this BS statement. How can you seriously help guide Dust if this is the noncommital attitude you have? You are a part of Betamax, thats the end of that story. One corporation, and arguably alliance, should not have two members sitting on the CPM especially considering no one was elected. If the community elected them then whatever, but for two to be appointed from the same corp is corrupt and will instill a huge bias in the CPM.

Because no matter what I do or what some of the other hand picks are going to do, there is going to be some very pissed off players and addressing all of them to be nice about it, is going to be impossible, by statement about my affliation with betamax however has been long standing and well known to betamax. Jenza can confirm this.

The cronyism and corruptness is becoming more and more evident.

I am not the one doing the errosion though, I am still the same from Ironwolf yesterday, CPM title is only going to change what I can say from now on in terms of up and comming. Its not going to stop me from being a relay, its not going to stop me from snooping the net for clues, and its not going to stop me to tell the devs the peice of the community's minds.

If you want to yell at me for something about lying and the sorts. You can yell at me about lying about going to the Fan Fest.

Jenza is the one with the big lying problem, I never had a problem with you about that. Hell, you were rarely online for me to have a problem with you about anything. And I was ok to see you on the CPM because I know that you do a lot for us trying to figure out what CCP refuses to tell us and irritates the hell out of us with. But when you can sit here and start to backtrack and try to say that youre really not a part of Betamax it tells me that youre gonna do the same thing as a CPM. Anytime something goes wrong or a mistake is made youre gonna back away and say that you just sat on the council and didnt really have anything to do with it. It also shows you will in fact not give the devs a piece of your mind. You will go along with whatever and then try to say it wasnt your fault when something goes wrong.

Jenza is the one with the big lying problem, I never had a problem with you about that. Hell, you were rarely online for me to have a problem with you about anything. And I was ok to see you on the CPM because I know that you do a lot for us trying to figure out what CCP refuses to tell us and irritates the hell out of us with. But when you can sit here and start to backtrack and try to say that youre really not a part of Betamax it tells me that youre gonna do the same thing as a CPM. Anytime something goes wrong or a mistake is made youre gonna back away and say that you just sat on the council and didnt really have anything to do with it. It also shows you will in fact not give the devs a piece of your mind. You will go along with whatever and then try to say it wasnt your fault when something goes wrong.

Good to see the guy that made AFKing generally accepted in the DUST community tops out the council:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=56718

@Recon By Fire - what do you think the CPMs going to do? Convince the devs to hack up the game and give their corps the super secret dev hacks and special kill everyone guns? Get a grip.

Many thanks to everyone for putting their trust in us, I'm looking forward to helping set up this new Council to be every bit as efficient and productive as the CSM itself has become over the years. One of my big goals is to bypass the 7 years of trial-and-error its taken to get that institution to a healthy place, and get the CPM off to the right start from the very beginning. CCP has chosen some outstanding individuals to represent everyone here, who have demonstrated remarkable commitment to the community and an unquestionable work ethic.

One of the first issues I'm going to address is this utter nonsense about corp ticker - if you think its going to compromise our ability to serve, lets just nip this little idea in the butt right from the beginning. Just as the CSM has year after year, the CPM will be representing the community as a whole, not our individual corps. We will be under supervision and scrutiny from internal affairs, and we literally cannot abuse our positions for corporate or personal gain, or we will be removed, simple as that. So please everyone, lets skip right over the unnecessary drama baiting about which corp we belong to, and start reaching out to your representatives with your issues and concerns.

Inter-corp and Inter-alliance drama has zero place on the council, and all wars / beefs / conflict that happen in-game get laid aside when we work as a team to represent the community. That is why the CSM is strong, and I'm going to ensure that the CPM operates with the very same principles.

I'll try to answer any questions I can before leaving for Iceland for Fanfest tomorrow, but I'm quite busy packing and running errands, so I appreciate everyone's patience and I look forward to hitting the ground running as soon as I return.

o7

And to Nomed- you gotta let the whole sp farming thing go. We're all here for the real game modes where sp farmings not relevant. The days of public match grinding are over

The SP farming done stretches past mere pub play; that's SP to freely be used to their advantage in planetary conquest, there was no consequence for those openly and repeatedly exploiting a game mechanic, and further still AFKing has affected the playerbase as a whole where some players have lost interest and teams in pubs quit fighting after 5 minutes where whoever is at disadvantage merely sits at the red line.
When the new build starts, I'll put this in the past but for now, AFKing is still rampant and still affecting gameplay and the community.

Recon, i understand that and why you have a massive problem towards me. during january and febuary some major stuff happened in real life that is too personal and distressing for me to post to random internet strangers, but needess to say that it was a big deal.

I actually wanted to have the opportunity to explain these things to you but you kinda jumped ship which i dont mind to be honest. point is that things are okay now which allows me to put the time and effort into the CPM that it deserves.

I can understand why some imps may have misgivings about me being in the CPM, but i promise you all i will be doing everything i can in this position to help the community. Since early early early beta i have done so much to try and make this game a success and that will continue as i gain new tools to help the community as a member of CPM.

Many thanks to everyone for putting their trust in us, I'm looking forward to helping set up this new Council to be every bit as efficient and productive as the CSM itself has become over the years. One of my big goals is to bypass the 7 years of trial-and-error its taken to get that institution to a healthy place, and get the CPM off to the right start from the very beginning. CCP has chosen some outstanding individuals to represent everyone here, who have demonstrated remarkable commitment to the community and an unquestionable work ethic.

One of the first issues I'm going to address is this utter nonsense about corp ticker - if you think its going to compromise our ability to serve, lets just nip this little idea in the butt right from the beginning. Just as the CSM has year after year, the CPM will be representing the community as a whole, not our individual corps. We will be under supervision and scrutiny from internal affairs, and we literally cannot abuse our positions for corporate or personal gain, or we will be removed, simple as that. So please everyone, lets skip right over the unnecessary drama baiting about which corp we belong to, and start reaching out to your representatives with your issues and concerns.

Inter-corp and Inter-alliance drama has zero place on the council, and all wars / beefs / conflict that happen in-game get laid aside when we work as a team to represent the community. That is why the CSM is strong, and I'm going to ensure that the CPM operates with the very same principles.

I'll try to answer any questions I can before leaving for Iceland for Fanfest tomorrow, but I'm quite busy packing and running errands, so I appreciate everyone's patience and I look forward to hitting the ground running as soon as I return.

o7

i promise you all i will be doing everything i can in this position to help the community.

You obviously dont know Jenza then cause youre only covering half of the main issue here. The other issue is her lack of ability to lead and work with other people. She hasnt even had a presence in Dust since January or maybe mid February. This is evidenced by the Betamax youtube page not having any new additions for two months and her twitter account going almost completely silent.

But Hans has turned down csm 8 for private reasons and now he is here. Did he know that, back then?

I'll believe it when I see it. Past experience shows that you are incapable of putting biases aside to work with or benefit others you previously did not get along with. Just the other day you refused to squad with someone purely because of the corp he belonged to, regardless of your having no prior problems with the person. You've also actively chosen not to participate in community events because of who was involved in running them. I fully expect a similar pattern of behavior from you while on the CPM, but feel free to prove me wrong.

I'll believe it when I see it. Past experience shows that you are incapable of putting biases aside to work with or benefit others you previously did not get along with. Just the other day you refused to squad with someone purely because of the corp he belonged to, regardless of your having no prior problems with the person. You've also actively chosen not to participate in community events because of who was involved in running them. I fully expect a similar pattern of behavior from you while on the CPM, but feel free to prove me wrong.

I do have my concerns about a lack of top end talent on the CPM, as well as the main criteria for being on the CPM being whether or not you have a podcast, hang out in IRC, or are able to stream videos.


I can think of many people who have contributed greatly with detailed bug reports throughout the beta on the forums, as well as posting possible fixes that make sense. That group has been completely left out of the CPM.

Kain being a pro-AFKer=somewhat troubling.

As a CSM member, I've been more than happy to block/ignore/walk away from countless jerks or people that I found obnoxious

I do have my concerns about a lack of top end talent on the CPM, as well as the main criteria for being on the CPM being whether or not you have a podcast, hang out in IRC, or are able to stream videos.

I can think of many people who have contributed greatly with detailed bug reports throughout the beta on the forums, as well as posting possible fixes that make sense. That group has been completely left out of the CPM.

Just think of us as your megaphones with built in swear filters!

Not really its empty. I can't see you doing more than getting on the forums and trying to keep up with the lastest crying foxfour does that on his own. I can see no benefit at all. I don't need a megaphone for your cause all the issues in dust are well known. Maybe eve findes some use for them but I've never heard of them doing anything note worthy, than causing me to have ignore the constant banter about voting for people noone cares about.

Alright man like I said I could careless only reason I even commented is they felt the need to clutter the announcement with this and new about PC or other issue are 1000x more important than empty titles that help noone.

Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot.

Recon, i understand that and why you have a massive problem towards me. during january and febuary some major stuff happened in real life that is too personal and distressing for me to post to random internet strangers, but needess to say that it was a big deal.

I actually wanted to have the opportunity to explain these things to you but you kinda jumped ship which i dont mind to be honest. point is that things are okay now which allows me to put the time and effort into the CPM that it deserves.

I can understand why some imps may have misgivings about me being in the CPM, but i promise you all i will be doing everything i can in this position to help the community. Since early early early beta i have done so much to try and make this game a success and that will continue as i gain new tools to help the community as a member of CPM.

I remember the days when HAV whining was at a peak, when I pressed CCP about it they thought that HAVs didn't need infantry to support it. Slapped them about that notion and made them require some infantry support.

Yeah, no. What they did is make the HAV's paper. That doesn't make them require support, that just makes them god mode with glass heels. If you think HAV's are improved from E3, you are wrong by a mile.

Well as an omni-soldier I have been on both ends of the tank, I will tell you one thing.

Tanks with a squad sweeping in front and two anti- anti-vehicle infantry watching its rear are the hardest tanks in the world to kill. When I tank I know when to move where all the tank cover is and trying to utilize it and only support the infantry trying to sweep ahead of me. Unfourtuantely I am a horrible shot and cant use the tanks like zion, zitro, aldin and some of the better tanks from STB could and take advantage of infantry movement. Also from the looks of it, most people's tanks I 'SOLO' are not tanked proper, ever.

If I only have basic suits and adv weapons I shouldn't be soloing sagaris and suryas. I shouldn't pop most tanks on a single reload.

Swarm Launcher Tracking needs a nerf though IMO. AV grenades should be harder to fit. Sleeks need to fly further. According to the numbers Sleek AV grenades have the least amount of kills of ALL normal weapons in the game. (actually the MCC XL guns and null cannons have more kills than the sleek AV grenades)

You were tapped for your second X chromosome. End of story.

The two primary AV weapons are extremely long range. There is no way infantry can protect a tank from a forge gun at 400m, which is what happens vs good corps. Balancing for pubs will ruin this game.

I am not part of Jenza's corp by affilation, I am just a guest in Betamax as a closed beta tester involving in the testing community back then. I am there only as a welcomed Guest, I do not render political aid, I do not manage any leadership positions in the corp, I am just there to chat and help train. I will probably help field PC battles but only to get used to the systems and understand the game more.

I'm sure that BSOTT would love to have you.

Sure, need to get around a bit and I would like to see what you guys do for new players.

Yeah, I do not think they really looked at the community that closely before making their choices, but oh well. There are a couple good choices in there and it is just the beta version. Lets hope these guys do a good job. I can not wait to see them all at Fanfest.

whatever. See you at fanfest.

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Oh wait...

Hopefully the council that is active will increase to 5. 3 seems to be a very small number that can be easily Stacked with proper organization. Once voting by the player base is allowed and you know how we like to exploit stuff ;)

Good luck to you 3

Dude, I was ok with you being on there until this BS statement. How can you seriously help guide Dust if this is the noncommital attitude you have? You are a part of Betamax, thats the end of that story. One corporation, and arguably alliance, should not have two members sitting on the CPM especially considering no one was elected. If the community elected them then whatever, but for two to be appointed from the same corp is corrupt and will instill a huge bias in the CPM.

Just to clarify, there are indeed 5 members of the CPM: Kane Spero, Jenza Aranda, Nova Knife, Iron Wolf Saber, and myself.

Thanks again for the kind words! o7

Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot.

But seriously who is jenze does any one have a link to anything he has done?
And who is jagermeister?

But seriously who is jenze does any one have a link to anything he has done?
And who is jagermeister?

RE corp tags, It's worth noting that both Kane and Hans are EX-Betamax too, but it's no important as Hans said. So what if 4 of them all have history with Betamax? What's important is their ability to get the job done, which is yet to be seen i admit. But i have high hopes and i do hope Hans sticks to his word about throwing people under the bus if they don't do their job.

When i was interviewed, i never thought of you, i actually picked the 4 people who got voted in when asked for my opinion of it, my final choice was ZionShad because even though we have issues, i think he has the right attitude and commitment levels to get it done, but you'd have been my first choice had it crossed my mind.

well, if you looked down this just came out...

Thank you for that Cerebral and it's intresting to find out there was a small vote between the candidates. Had I gone through with the interview in all honesty IGÇÖd voted for you as well.

Really thats your claim to fame? I read the forums everyday and I can't recall you saying in on anything on the topics of dust.
But I do see that you are a female instead of a male I apologize for mistaking that. But I guess that is why you were chosen over so many more qualified candidates, who actually have a voice within the community. Enjoy your free trip, and we will see you back in the community when you get back. Oh wait no we won't cause you don't participate in the forum discussions.

A vote ? I dont recall being asked to vote for anyone in the interview process.

A vote ? I dont recall being asked to vote for anyone in the interview process.

We was asked, or at least i was.. who are the top 5 people i'd pick except myself.

My choice was Kane, Nova, Ironwolf, Jenza and Shad. Has i thought of Hans at the time i'd have picked him over Shad.

Hmm.... someone doesn't keep up to date very well.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=529448#post529448

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=529493#post529493

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/307170582196264960

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/299262822389530624

https://twitter.com/KainSpero/status/299192855484850179

http://redd.it/180sk8

People not fighting in matches is bad, but I don't condemn people for going AFK. If a system rewards someone for an action they will take that action. To solve the problem you need to remove the reward. I actually blew up Sota Pop when I found him AFKing in the MCC during my last stream for TheMittani.com

All this will serve is the rich will get richer and the real talented leaders that go unrecognized and continue to build in an uphill fight, will have to work even harder. The council is helping the game for all of us through using the Fanfest as a platform to market their individual corporations. As if they didn't have a jump on the rest of us already. Glad to see my hard work payoff by getting put at more of unfair disadvantage.

All this will serve is the rich will get richer and the real talented leaders that go unrecognized and continue to build in an uphill fight, will have to work even harder. The council is helping the game for all of us through using the Fanfest as a platform to market their individual corporations. As if they didn't have a jump on the rest of us already. Glad to see my hard work payoff by getting put at more of unfair disadvantage.

So I guess these clowns are to blame for ccp raping us on our aur and isk for the new build. Thanks for nothing! These idiots don't even play the game. They don't speak for me! Either way this game is a joke now!

You obviously dont know Jenza then cause youre only covering half of the main issue here. The other issue is her lack of ability to lead and work with other people. She hasnt even had a presence in Dust since January or maybe mid February. This is evidenced by the Betamax youtube page not having any new additions for two months and her twitter account going almost completely silent. The reasoning for this is even more ridiculous! She all but basically rage quit the game after Imperfects supposedly trolled her about how terribly she plays during her 24 hour live stream. If she cant control herself just because of something like that, which lets face it you can see in her videos that she is not that great of a player, then she has no business being on the CPM.

As to the other half, no one is insinuating that the two of them would somehow give themselves some sort of perks by their positions. What they will do, however, is never challenge each others opinion. It will always be a constant circle of kissing each others butt. This is not something the CPM ever needs, and especially does not need it during the very first CPM that will lay the groundwork and set the standard for all future CPMs.

What on earth are you talking about? You don't lose any isk or aurum. The prices on new stuff is actually generally less!

its ridiculous that the council is made up from a bunch of EVE players. They know nothing about shooters and whine about the littlest stuff. Instead the council need to be made up from actual PS3 players with extensive experience in FPS's.