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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:13:00 -
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CCP has chosen the DUST 514 Council of Planetary Management, DUST's version of the Council of Stellar Management. This group of hand selected players will work with CCP to help us shape the future of DUST 514 and lay down the groundwork for the future CPM. CCP Dolan introduces them in this new dev blog here.
Please discuss the blog here. |
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Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
183
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:17:00 -
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I'm glad Iron Wolf Saber is in there. His number of forum posts speak to just how dedicated he is to this game. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
154
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:17:00 -
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interesting |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
3171
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:18:00 -
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Looking forward to working closely with you guys! :D |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
51
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:19:00 -
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All of the members of the CPM will be at Fanfest so make sure to hit up the DUST 514 Council of Planetary Mgmt Roundtable at 17:00 on Thursday. |
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Etero Narciss
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
124
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:20:00 -
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Finally done, eh? I hope they do well. |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
92
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:30:00 -
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Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
298
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:46:00 -
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Welcome members! Do well! |
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
192
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:58:00 -
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Good choices all.
I'll be seeing you all at the CPM round table. And it's just before the Dust Keynote. One might even think it was planned that way.
The CPM is off to a great start.
Now... When do they get CPM tags on their avatar and in game? |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3554
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Posted - 2013.04.19 18:02:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot.
I am not part of Jenza's corp by affilation, I am just a guest in Betamax as a closed beta tester involving in the testing community back then. I am there only as a welcomed Guest, I do not render political aid, I do not manage any leadership positions in the corp, I am just there to chat and help train. I will probably help field PC battles but only to get used to the systems and understand the game more. |
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RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
94
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Posted - 2013.04.19 18:12:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot. I am not part of Jenza's corp by affilation, I am just a guest in Betamax as a closed beta tester involving in the testing community back then. I am there only as a welcomed Guest, I do not render political aid, I do not manage any leadership positions in the corp, I am just there to chat and help train. I will probably help field PC battles but only to get used to the systems and understand the game more.
Dude, I was ok with you being on there until this BS statement. How can you seriously help guide Dust if this is the noncommital attitude you have? You are a part of Betamax, thats the end of that story. One corporation, and arguably alliance, should not have two members sitting on the CPM especially considering no one was elected. If the community elected them then whatever, but for two to be appointed from the same corp is corrupt and will instill a huge bias in the CPM. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3554
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Posted - 2013.04.19 18:25:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot. I am not part of Jenza's corp by affilation, I am just a guest in Betamax as a closed beta tester involving in the testing community back then. I am there only as a welcomed Guest, I do not render political aid, I do not manage any leadership positions in the corp, I am just there to chat and help train. I will probably help field PC battles but only to get used to the systems and understand the game more. Dude, I was ok with you being on there until this BS statement. How can you seriously help guide Dust if this is the noncommital attitude you have? You are a part of Betamax, thats the end of that story. One corporation, and arguably alliance, should not have two members sitting on the CPM especially considering no one was elected. If the community elected them then whatever, but for two to be appointed from the same corp is corrupt and will instill a huge bias in the CPM.
Because no matter what I do or what some of the other hand picks are going to do, there is going to be some very pissed off players and addressing all of them to be nice about it, is going to be impossible, by statement about my affliation with betamax however has been long standing and well known to betamax. Jenza can confirm this. |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
94
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Posted - 2013.04.19 18:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot. I am not part of Jenza's corp by affilation, I am just a guest in Betamax as a closed beta tester involving in the testing community back then. I am there only as a welcomed Guest, I do not render political aid, I do not manage any leadership positions in the corp, I am just there to chat and help train. I will probably help field PC battles but only to get used to the systems and understand the game more. Dude, I was ok with you being on there until this BS statement. How can you seriously help guide Dust if this is the noncommital attitude you have? You are a part of Betamax, thats the end of that story. One corporation, and arguably alliance, should not have two members sitting on the CPM especially considering no one was elected. If the community elected them then whatever, but for two to be appointed from the same corp is corrupt and will instill a huge bias in the CPM. Because no matter what I do or what some of the other hand picks are going to do, there is going to be some very pissed off players and addressing all of them to be nice about it, is going to be impossible, by statement about my affliation with betamax however has been long standing and well known to betamax. Jenza can confirm this.
The cronyism and corruptness is becoming more and more evident. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3554
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Posted - 2013.04.19 18:31:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:Its a little messed up to have a single corp with 2 people sitting on the CPM dont ya think? Especially considering Jenza hasnt done anything for this community since January, and the fact that there are so many more people who are more than qualified for the spot. I am not part of Jenza's corp by affilation, I am just a guest in Betamax as a closed beta tester involving in the testing community back then. I am there only as a welcomed Guest, I do not render political aid, I do not manage any leadership positions in the corp, I am just there to chat and help train. I will probably help field PC battles but only to get used to the systems and understand the game more. Dude, I was ok with you being on there until this BS statement. How can you seriously help guide Dust if this is the noncommital attitude you have? You are a part of Betamax, thats the end of that story. One corporation, and arguably alliance, should not have two members sitting on the CPM especially considering no one was elected. If the community elected them then whatever, but for two to be appointed from the same corp is corrupt and will instill a huge bias in the CPM. Because no matter what I do or what some of the other hand picks are going to do, there is going to be some very pissed off players and addressing all of them to be nice about it, is going to be impossible, by statement about my affliation with betamax however has been long standing and well known to betamax. Jenza can confirm this. The cronyism and corruptness is becoming more and more evident.
I am not the one doing the errosion though, I am still the same from Ironwolf yesterday, CPM title is only going to change what I can say from now on in terms of up and comming. Its not going to stop me from being a relay, its not going to stop me from snooping the net for clues, and its not going to stop me to tell the devs the peice of the community's minds.
If you want to yell at me for something about lying and the sorts. You can yell at me about lying about going to the Fan Fest. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
137
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Posted - 2013.04.19 18:41:00 -
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Good to see the guy that made AFKing generally accepted in the DUST community tops out the council: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=56718 |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
97
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Posted - 2013.04.19 18:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am not the one doing the errosion though, I am still the same from Ironwolf yesterday, CPM title is only going to change what I can say from now on in terms of up and comming. Its not going to stop me from being a relay, its not going to stop me from snooping the net for clues, and its not going to stop me to tell the devs the peice of the community's minds.
If you want to yell at me for something about lying and the sorts. You can yell at me about lying about going to the Fan Fest.
Jenza is the one with the big lying problem, I never had a problem with you about that. Hell, you were rarely online for me to have a problem with you about anything. And I was ok to see you on the CPM because I know that you do a lot for us trying to figure out what CCP refuses to tell us and irritates the hell out of us with. But when you can sit here and start to backtrack and try to say that youre really not a part of Betamax it tells me that youre gonna do the same thing as a CPM. Anytime something goes wrong or a mistake is made youre gonna back away and say that you just sat on the council and didnt really have anything to do with it. It also shows you will in fact not give the devs a piece of your mind. You will go along with whatever and then try to say it wasnt your fault when something goes wrong. |
Willy Slipknot
Gundam Wings
0
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Posted - 2013.04.19 18:50:00 -
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Well, that got ugly fast.
Not even to second page yet. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
349
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:09:00 -
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@Recon By Fire - what do you think the CPMs going to do? Convince the devs to hack up the game and give their corps the super secret dev hacks and special kill everyone guns? Get a grip. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3555
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:12:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am not the one doing the errosion though, I am still the same from Ironwolf yesterday, CPM title is only going to change what I can say from now on in terms of up and comming. Its not going to stop me from being a relay, its not going to stop me from snooping the net for clues, and its not going to stop me to tell the devs the peice of the community's minds.
If you want to yell at me for something about lying and the sorts. You can yell at me about lying about going to the Fan Fest. Jenza is the one with the big lying problem, I never had a problem with you about that. Hell, you were rarely online for me to have a problem with you about anything. And I was ok to see you on the CPM because I know that you do a lot for us trying to figure out what CCP refuses to tell us and irritates the hell out of us with. But when you can sit here and start to backtrack and try to say that youre really not a part of Betamax it tells me that youre gonna do the same thing as a CPM. Anytime something goes wrong or a mistake is made youre gonna back away and say that you just sat on the council and didnt really have anything to do with it. It also shows you will in fact not give the devs a piece of your mind. You will go along with whatever and then try to say it wasnt your fault when something goes wrong.
I was in the corp during the break up, I stayed out of that mess. It was something I ,myself couldn't fix over drama to which I had no involvement in or knowledge of. If I had a dog in that fight I would have been involved. I was still a guest in the corp then. I was not involved with the leadership and they did not want me involved as it would not have been fair to me.
I will own up to my own screwups, after all it was me that started the whole irc vs forums war a few months ago. The once again with the player founded CPM. Though I had help diffisuning some of that, the incident would have never happened if I kept the CPM then a secret merc's club. |
mynnna514
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:14:00 -
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Speaking as an eve player, the complaints y'all have about the makeup of the council are just precious. |
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Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
162
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:14:00 -
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You betamax guys are awesome. By far my favorite corp. i've no problem having more than one of you on the council. And to Nomed- you gotta let the whole sp farming thing go. We're all here for the real game modes where sp farmings not relevant. The days of public match grinding are over |
Baal Omniscient
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
469
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:16:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am not the one doing the errosion though, I am still the same from Ironwolf yesterday, CPM title is only going to change what I can say from now on in terms of up and comming. Its not going to stop me from being a relay, its not going to stop me from snooping the net for clues, and its not going to stop me to tell the devs the peice of the community's minds.
If you want to yell at me for something about lying and the sorts. You can yell at me about lying about going to the Fan Fest. Jenza is the one with the big lying problem, I never had a problem with you about that. Hell, you were rarely online for me to have a problem with you about anything. And I was ok to see you on the CPM because I know that you do a lot for us trying to figure out what CCP refuses to tell us and irritates the hell out of us with. But when you can sit here and start to backtrack and try to say that youre really not a part of Betamax it tells me that youre gonna do the same thing as a CPM. Anytime something goes wrong or a mistake is made youre gonna back away and say that you just sat on the council and didnt really have anything to do with it. It also shows you will in fact not give the devs a piece of your mind. You will go along with whatever and then try to say it wasnt your fault when something goes wrong. Someone sounds like they are trying to drag RL political issues into an imaginary universe lol. Look, this initial CPM is only temporary and is only here to basically pave the way for the player elected CPM and to get ideas flowing between CCP and the players. It doesn't matter if two or all of them are from the same corp as long as they are all dedicated to the betterment of Dust.
As for IWS, I don't doubt what he has to say about his position in Betamax because it seems I've heard that same thing numerous times in the past in these forums. But even if he WERE lying, what good would that do him? He only holds a non-elected position on a council of people who are gonna start shouldering the blame for everything that goes wrong with Dust, which means he holds no player earned position so his title holds no real weight with the community, and he's voluntarily taking the role of a scapegoat. You are basically accusing him of lying for no reason.
Now, you want to see a REAL complaint? Something that might actually impact the game?
THAT might actually end up impacting the game. I like Kain fine, I have no qualms with him and respect everything he's done for the Dust community, but it's undeniable that he pretty much led the charge to start accepting people who started exploiting those game mechanics in ways they were not intended to be used, which could end up influencing the way things are built in the game.
Kain being a pro-AFKer=somewhat troubling. IWS being a guest player in a corp who's CEO is also a CPM=not troubling in the slightest. If anything it means they might be in contact more to discuss important matters. |
Baal Omniscient
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
469
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:17:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:@Recon By Fire - what do you think the CPMs going to do? Convince the devs to hack up the game and give their corps the super secret dev hacks and special kill everyone guns? Get a grip. Yeah, basically that^. Chill out bro |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
151
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:25:00 -
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Many thanks to everyone for putting their trust in us, I'm looking forward to helping set up this new Council to be every bit as efficient and productive as the CSM itself has become over the years. One of my big goals is to bypass the 7 years of trial-and-error its taken to get that institution to a healthy place, and get the CPM off to the right start from the very beginning. CCP has chosen some outstanding individuals to represent everyone here, who have demonstrated remarkable commitment to the community and an unquestionable work ethic.
One of the first issues I'm going to address is this utter nonsense about corp ticker - if you think its going to compromise our ability to serve, lets just nip this little idea in the butt right from the beginning. Just as the CSM has year after year, the CPM will be representing the community as a whole, not our individual corps. We will be under supervision and scrutiny from internal affairs, and we literally cannot abuse our positions for corporate or personal gain, or we will be removed, simple as that. So please everyone, lets skip right over the unnecessary drama baiting about which corp we belong to, and start reaching out to your representatives with your issues and concerns.
Inter-corp and Inter-alliance drama has zero place on the council, and all wars / beefs / conflict that happen in-game get laid aside when we work as a team to represent the community. That is why the CSM is strong, and I'm going to ensure that the CPM operates with the very same principles.
I'll try to answer any questions I can before leaving for Iceland for Fanfest tomorrow, but I'm quite busy packing and running errands, so I appreciate everyone's patience and I look forward to hitting the ground running as soon as I return.
o7 |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3555
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:27:00 -
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Now I know there is a lack of 'pros' on the council as well, that is not going to stop me from listening though, and as an omni soldier I do have a good idea where your complaints are from. So if any of you top notch guys can reasonably explain broken balance I will take a gander myself and help advocate adjust,men ts if needed.
I'll write out a statement on what you guys can expect from me. |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
98
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:38:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Many thanks to everyone for putting their trust in us, I'm looking forward to helping set up this new Council to be every bit as efficient and productive as the CSM itself has become over the years. One of my big goals is to bypass the 7 years of trial-and-error its taken to get that institution to a healthy place, and get the CPM off to the right start from the very beginning. CCP has chosen some outstanding individuals to represent everyone here, who have demonstrated remarkable commitment to the community and an unquestionable work ethic.
One of the first issues I'm going to address is this utter nonsense about corp ticker - if you think its going to compromise our ability to serve, lets just nip this little idea in the butt right from the beginning. Just as the CSM has year after year, the CPM will be representing the community as a whole, not our individual corps. We will be under supervision and scrutiny from internal affairs, and we literally cannot abuse our positions for corporate or personal gain, or we will be removed, simple as that. So please everyone, lets skip right over the unnecessary drama baiting about which corp we belong to, and start reaching out to your representatives with your issues and concerns.
Inter-corp and Inter-alliance drama has zero place on the council, and all wars / beefs / conflict that happen in-game get laid aside when we work as a team to represent the community. That is why the CSM is strong, and I'm going to ensure that the CPM operates with the very same principles.
I'll try to answer any questions I can before leaving for Iceland for Fanfest tomorrow, but I'm quite busy packing and running errands, so I appreciate everyone's patience and I look forward to hitting the ground running as soon as I return.
o7
You obviously dont know Jenza then cause youre only covering half of the main issue here. The other issue is her lack of ability to lead and work with other people. She hasnt even had a presence in Dust since January or maybe mid February. This is evidenced by the Betamax youtube page not having any new additions for two months and her twitter account going almost completely silent. The reasoning for this is even more ridiculous! She all but basically rage quit the game after Imperfects supposedly trolled her about how terribly she plays during her 24 hour live stream. If she cant control herself just because of something like that, which lets face it you can see in her videos that she is not that great of a player, then she has no business being on the CPM.
As to the other half, no one is insinuating that the two of them would somehow give themselves some sort of perks by their positions. What they will do, however, is never challenge each others opinion. It will always be a constant circle of kissing each others butt. This is not something the CPM ever needs, and especially does not need it during the very first CPM that will lay the groundwork and set the standard for all future CPMs. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
139
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:50:00 -
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Quote:And to Nomed- you gotta let the whole sp farming thing go. We're all here for the real game modes where sp farmings not relevant. The days of public match grinding are over The SP farming done stretches past mere pub play; that's SP to freely be used to their advantage in planetary conquest, there was no consequence for those openly and repeatedly exploiting a game mechanic, and further still AFKing has affected the playerbase as a whole where some players have lost interest and teams in pubs quit fighting after 5 minutes where whoever is at disadvantage merely sits at the red line. When the new build starts, I'll put this in the past but for now, AFKing is still rampant and still affecting gameplay and the community. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1185
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:03:00 -
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I love how Internal Error isn't happy even though Kain is up there. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1185
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:03:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:Quote:And to Nomed- you gotta let the whole sp farming thing go. We're all here for the real game modes where sp farmings not relevant. The days of public match grinding are over The SP farming done stretches past mere pub play; that's SP to freely be used to their advantage in planetary conquest, there was no consequence for those openly and repeatedly exploiting a game mechanic, and further still AFKing has affected the playerbase as a whole where some players have lost interest and teams in pubs quit fighting after 5 minutes where whoever is at disadvantage merely sits at the red line. When the new build starts, I'll put this in the past but for now, AFKing is still rampant and still affecting gameplay and the community. It's not an exploit or anything. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1063
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:50:00 -
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Recon, i understand that and why you have a massive problem towards me. during january and febuary some major stuff happened in real life that is too personal and distressing for me to post to random internet strangers, but needess to say that it was a big deal.
I actually wanted to have the opportunity to explain these things to you but you kinda jumped ship which i dont mind to be honest. point is that things are okay now which allows me to put the time and effort into the CPM that it deserves.
I can understand why some imps may have misgivings about me being in the CPM, but i promise you all i will be doing everything i can in this position to help the community. Since early early early beta i have done so much to try and make this game a success and that will continue as i gain new tools to help the community as a member of CPM. |
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