Right now, our reload is cyclic.

We begin to reload but then do something like throw a grenade, sprint, or jump, and we have to restart the whole thing again.

Progressive reload is based on the progress made during reload. This would allow us to complete certain phases of reload without resetting. So we could take out the mag, sprint, load the new mag, jump, and set the hammer. It seems unreasonable that when I sprint after loading a new mag, I take that magazine out. It's perfectly fine yo! Don't take it out you just put it in!

The sprinting reload is a good idea...

Progressive reload thou, its kinda far from what we do in the battlefield. I mean, we are using magazines. If we were reloading bullet per bullet like a shotgun, we would have progressive reload, btw, shotguns have that feature because you are reloading it bullet per bullet.

Llan Heindell.

Not bullet by bullet, but phase by phase. If you load a magazine in a gun, the stop to run, you don't have to take that magazine out, all you have to do is prime the chamber.

As a said, we should be able to keep reloading if we start sprinting in the middle of a reload, but we are talking about animation lock here.

Llan Heindell.

Oh no! Not animation lock. I'm saying that if you take out the mag, you can return your gun to normal animation at that point. You still have to complete the phases otherwise the phases will reset. So instead of the reload being one long cycle, you can have it broken up into smaller quicker cycles.

So you can take the mag out, then return the gun to normal animation, but you can't take the magazine halfway out, stop it, then continue the reload from there.

So you have to complete a reasonable phase so you're not just having a weird glitched reload.

The reload skills would allow you to complete phases faster, thus reload so it works out.

Do I have to resort to talking to myself?

At least the existing animation would need to be broken into two sequences and possibly three depending on weapon type and reload sequence. That is not a huge problem until the number of weapons is used to multiply the workload to solve the problem. Additionally every sequence needs to be passed to QA and verified, then on to the Beta testers then hopefully no more tweaks will be needed.

Still a supremely awesome idea

Hmmm would be nice, but there are also times where I like being able to cancel the reload so I can use whatever was left in the magazine to defend myself against an unexpected attack. I have mixed feelings about this.

I would rather it be segmented progressive, you reload your gun by releasing and removing the Mag, then you insert another, then your lock it in(this could differ between guns) as you pass each check mark while reload if you interrupt it you will go back to the last checkmark you past. so if you interrupt your self while you insert another mag when you restart you wont have to remove the old one but you will have to put the new one in again since you didn't get that far last time.

Alright, but wouldn't they just need to create a sort of binary system that just operates the reload?

Finish Phase 1? -> Yes -> Finish Phase 2? -> No ->:// Continue: Phase 2

You know something like that? Where it registers only the checkpoints of the phases and using spliced animation allows the program to continue you the reload at any point, it would just neglect the phases not needed (I'm being redundant but trying to put it in terms of operation).

CCP is already going to have to make a ton of reload animations for the new weapons, so along with the building of those reloads, they could just throw a few splices and add some more variables to the already binary system of reloading and bam, progressive reload.

And that is what I described. It is still expensive in time, resources for animation, coding and the ever lovely QA.

That is not mentioning that this type of solution will require some additional resources. We are still on the PS3 with only 512MB of combined System/Video memory. This should be a solvable problem but is it worth doing in the current time frame with the current resource limitations? Don't know. I don't have that information available.

Is this still Kagehoshi approved? Let's find out....

The reload is a mechanic designed to punish players that spray a lot xD.

If you have to reload in the middle of a fight, you should die. If you are reloading in a bad position, you should die. Running is in my opinion okay to reset the reload because it means once you have someone reloading, they can't just run and turn and shoot within seconds, because the reload is meant to be an opportunity for you to deal free damage.
That said, it wouldn't bother me too much (especially as a HMG player) if they allowed this. But this is being said from my point of view where reloading seems to be one of my only weaknesses.

You know what the worst part is? After the reload animation, there's like a 1.5~2 second moment where you have to wait for your hud to show you have a full clip. After going through the long ass suicidal animation of loading my mass driver that takes up 2/3 of the screen, if my heavy needs a quick nanohive, top off on his armor, or a needle in his ass, I have to go through the reload again just because I didn't wait that extra second and a fraction.

The reload is a mechanic designed to punish players that spray a lot xD.

If you have to reload in the middle of a fight, you should die. If you are reloading in a bad position, you should die. Running is in my opinion okay to reset the reload because it means once you have someone reloading, they can't just run and turn and shoot within seconds, because the reload is meant to be an opportunity for you to deal free damage.
That said, it wouldn't bother me too much (especially as a HMG player) if they allowed this. But this is being said from my point of view where reloading seems to be one of my only weaknesses.

Running out of ammo punishes players who spray already.

As of right now I don't know if it's a glitch or it's just me but whenever I'm reloading as long as the reload is just over half way done the reload will finish...
I've tested it several times, reload and once half way done switch weapon switch back full mag... Try it.

Right now, our reload is cyclic.

We begin to reload but then do something like throw a grenade, sprint, or jump, and we have to restart the whole thing again.

Progressive reload is based on the progress made during reload. This would allow us to complete certain phases of reload without resetting. So we could take out the mag, sprint, load the new mag, jump, and set the hammer. It seems unreasonable that when I sprint after loading a new mag, I take that magazine out. It's perfectly fine yo! Don't take it out you just put it in!

So we could take out the mag, sprint...[/i]

Stop right there my friend!
If you want **** to make sense, then whatever was left in the magazine would have to be thrown out. As it stands right now, when you have 30 bullets left in a mag and you toss that mag, for some reason you still have those 30 bullets. That makes no sense.

I agree with what you're saying, but if you want the pros of reloading in steps you should also have the cons.

...On second thought I think I might want those bullets...

Deserves a blur tag.

i removed 3 magazines while trying to melee a guy.

where do they keep comming from?! the spess wizard?

Right now, our reload is cyclic.

We begin to reload but then do something like throw a grenade, sprint, or jump, and we have to restart the whole thing again.

Progressive reload is based on the progress made during reload. This would allow us to complete certain phases of reload without resetting. So we could take out the mag, sprint, load the new mag, jump, and set the hammer. It seems unreasonable that when I sprint after loading a new mag, I take that magazine out. It's perfectly fine yo! Don't take it out you just put it in!

concept makes no sense.

Starts reload and drops old magazine.

Stops

Continues firing with.... what.

Starts reload half puts in new magazine, continues firing non chambered rounds......

Finishes animation.


******* stupid idea.

I don't think you understand the idea. Nowhere does it say you will be to fire after you started but have not finished reloading the weapon. What you described is the crappy way things currently are.
Reread again, carefully.

Hmm and if you forget and sprint into someone without a mag loaded?

Still want

We thought you always talked to yourself already? Has your inner voice gotten quieter of late?

Anyway, the problem with your request is based on animation sequences. Until DUST is working on a better engine/console that change is unlikely. Currently there is an animation sequence that must be generated for each Suit and each valid weapon. To accomplish what you want would mean that there would need to be several different animation sequences and that is a lot of work. For a small team the size of CCP/Shanghai in particular.

Technical details follow:

Assume an object that indicates the current status of the Merc in question. There is another object that reflects the Suit and objects that reflect every item equipped that is capable of being manipulated. The first animation required is simply equipping the item whether it is a Nanite Injector or a weapon. De-equipping a weapon can be safely ignored and, indeed, seems to be currently. As a side note the changing of weapons is handled exceptionally well by Borderlands and the DigiStruct style module on the characters right thigh.

Now any weapon needs to be reloaded. That requires an animation sequence and there is some mechanism in the code to initiate that animation when triggered. There is, as is normal practice, a method for aborting the animation and the reload. Let's expand the code and the objects to handle your request.

First sequence is removing the spent or, worse, partially spent clip. That introduces a problem as the game prefers not to leave you with an empty gun and defaults to reloading it unless you switch weapons.

Ignore that for the moment and throw a grenade. The current animation is at the end of the removing the clip but has not replaced it. That allows the grenade to be thrown (existing animation) and then the aborted action can be restarted. That would mean the insertion of the full clip.

At least the existing animation would need to be broken into two sequences and possibly three depending on weapon type and reload sequence. That is not a huge problem until the number of weapons is used to multiply the workload to solve the problem. Additionally every sequence needs to be passed to QA and verified, then on to the Beta testers then hopefully no more tweaks will be needed.

None of this even expands the code to handle the various conflicting conditions. The one with the empty clip is definitely one for instance. Then each sub animation sequence needs to be able to be abort so the grenade can be thrown right then regardless of which sub-animation is in what percentage of completion.

When a version is released on the modern UnReal Engine there will be significant improvements in the graphics as well as the functionality of the engine. This will make porting DUST to the PS4 and eventually the PC relatively simple. At least nothing that UnReal cannot have procedures and guidance regrading the problems inherent that must be considered.