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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:52:00 -
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Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
268
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:54:00 -
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Wow it took that guy from R*S () two shots on me 3 days ago. or were there 2 snipers? The world may never know. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
109
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:54:00 -
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You sure you had full +700 HP? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:02:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:You sure you had full +700 HP? 926HP shield and armor combined. Wasn't two hits. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
834
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:03:00 -
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323 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.40 = 572.03300 damage
X2 head shots = 1144.066, sounds lethal to me. |
Crims0n Viper
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:11:00 -
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Umadbro? |
Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
86
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:12:00 -
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Ha ha ha, tryhard |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
770
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:15:00 -
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You take how many shots to kill someone with a forge gun? |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
40
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:19:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people. Surely the changes in May will be a new balance. Things like the expanding equipment roster and the standing issues with ubber-complex-damage-modded-ARs had to have shown up in the closed dev testing. Cynical as I am it would be ludicrous for CCP to not know there are problems.
A Thale story: Myself and a buddy died within moments to a Thale sniper in the Line Harvest map. After re-spawning we traveled the map edge until we found his pipes perch. Snuck up close and gunned him down. Continuing on and found his uplink, followed by gunning him down again. Sadly I will never know if we costed him two Thales, sending a Dust mail over it would have been mean spirited. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:26:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:323 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.40 = 572.03300 damage
X2 head shots = 1144.066, sounds lethal to me.
Edit: I forgot the stacking penalty and that damage modes are multiplicative, so it should be a little less damage than that. Getting a headshot on me while I'm moving is pretty difficult to do. |
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:27:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:You take how many shots to kill someone with a forge gun? Since I don't use a mouse, there's no zoom and I don't remember what the splash damage was months ago, a couple of shots. Let me guess, you one shot every one with a militia forge because you're God's gift to a video game controller? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:28:00 -
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Crims0n Viper wrote:Umadbro? You'd probably get destroyed on a LAN game. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:29:00 -
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Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:Ha ha ha, tryhard I'm sure you too would get destroyed on a LAN game. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
109
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:30:00 -
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323 x 0.30 (assuming 3 non stackin pentaly damage mods) + 323 = 419.9 damage
419.9 x 1.5 (150% headshot) + 419.9 = 1049.75 damage
That was a shot to your fat head bro, seems legit. |
Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:31:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway.
I'm glad you've taken your in game rage to the forums. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
37
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:31:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:323 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.40 = 572.03300 damage
X2 head shots = 1144.066, sounds lethal to me.
Edit: I forgot the stacking penalty and that damage modes are multiplicative, so it should be a little less damage than that.
323*1.10*1.15*1.2722 (stacking with 4 complex damage mods) = 519.8146
519.8146*1.95 (headshot bonus) = 1013.638 damage.
I would like to point out that it is increasingly more difficult to get a headshot with the thales do to its increased zoom fidelity. To put this in context though:
These assumptions are based on having Sniper Rifle Operation V, Sniper Rifle Proficiency 5, a prototype suit with 4 high slots, 4 damage mods AND an OFFICER weapon. There is absolutely every reason in the world that a fit like this would one shot your best suit (with a headshot only mind you) and two shot it with body shots.
TL;DR: welcome to new eden, HTFU |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:34:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. I'm glad you've taken your in game rage to the forums. You too would get destroyed on a LAN. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
770
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:45:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:You take how many shots to kill someone with a forge gun? Since I don't use a mouse, there's no zoom and I don't remember what the splash damage was months ago, a couple of shots. Let me guess, you one shot every one with a militia forge because you're God's gift to a video game controller?
Nah, bro. Your forge/sniper comparison just kind of falls apart if you're factoring in indirect hits. If you miss with a sniper it does no damage at all. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
834
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:50:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:323 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.40 = 572.03300 damage
X2 head shots = 1144.066, sounds lethal to me.
Edit: I forgot the stacking penalty and that damage modes are multiplicative, so it should be a little less damage than that. 323*1.10*1.15*1.2722 (stacking with 4 complex damage mods) = 519.8146 519.8146*1.95 (headshot bonus) = 1013.638 damage. I would like to point out that it is increasingly more difficult to get a headshot with the thales due to its increased zoom fidelity. To put this in context though: These assumptions are based on having Sniper Rifle Operation V, Sniper Rifle Proficiency 5, a prototype suit with 4 high slots, 4 damage mods AND an OFFICER weapon. There is absolutely every reason in the world that a fit like this would one shot your best suit (with a headshot only mind you) and two shot it with body shots. TL;DR: welcome to new eden, HTFU EDIT: just to put your post in context: Quote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. If it is taking you 4 shots to take down anybody with a forge gun, it is because you are missing. The militia forge gun does 1200 base damage, without any damage modifiers. A direct hit with a forge will OHK anybody. As to the "anti-tank rifles" argument, A sniper rifle has 10% efficiency toward vehicles. That means 50 damage per hit with the thales (as headshot bonuses are not available) A'hhh, math, telling you why you suck. |
PAsReaver
G I A N T
0
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:53:00 -
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Bacon QQ |
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
865
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:57:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
Are we going to call a three shot pistol OP too?
It's officer gear, you can't just buy it. Most importantly, no matter how worthless, evil, or cheap a tactic is (in this case sniping), it's always a legitimate one. There are no such thing as a illegitimate tactic here. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1217
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Posted - 2013.04.11 06:02:00 -
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And this my fellow guys is why i allmost never step a foot out of my tank. Screw you snipers you aint killing me with your pew pew guns when i have tons of shields around me. |
Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.04.11 06:48:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Protoman Is God wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. I'm glad you've taken your in game rage to the forums. You too would get destroyed on a LAN.
You'd pull your cord against me over LAN homie. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2165
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Posted - 2013.04.11 14:56:00 -
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The Thale is a glorious machine passed down to us from the heavens to pass judgement on the vermin below. From our mountains among the clouds we reign terror leaving nothing but butthurt and broken controllers in our presence.
long live the gayar snipicus |
Green Living
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
151
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:10:00 -
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Saw a dude go 40-0 head glitching on Anus Peak with a charge sniper rifle. Hope that map is gone after May 6. |
Geth Massredux
Arrogance. EoN.
138
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:14:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. Was it a head shot? |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2167
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:23:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Saw a dude go 40-0 head glitching on Anus Peak with a charge sniper rifle. Hope that map is gone after May 6. That map is perfection |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2732
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:28:00 -
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lolThales gun is a joke then again sniping is kinda a joke only few make it look skilled the way they play |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
933
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:47:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:323 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.40 = 572.03300 damage
X2 head shots = 1144.066, sounds lethal to me.
Edit: I forgot the stacking penalty and that damage modes are multiplicative, so it should be a little less damage than that. Getting a headshot on me while I'm moving is pretty difficult to do.
LOL. Getting a headshot on a heavy is easy. I have OHKed so many of you fatties. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
933
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:52:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Wow it took that guy from R*S ( ) two shots on me 3 days ago. or were there 2 snipers? The world may never know.
Meh! Only me sniping. Almost all the other snipers are scrubs anyway. Point is that I got you the others around. Quite annoying isn't it having snipers like me take out 30% - 50% of your clones . I also use only a single damage mod. If I had used a double damage mod it would have been an OHK. I prefer my 900 EHP though. TYVM.
Good Scouts are the hardest to snipe. But once you hit them they are pretty much dead.
Assault Vk1s(which you were running) are the next. But getting practice on the good assault players has helped me take them out faster.
Heavies and Logis are OHK for me.
But that's just muh |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
1120
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:53:00 -
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I swear I posted in this thread....
Great now my wifi is lying to me. |
Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
94
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:54:00 -
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For a while, I really hated Manus Peak.
... Hell, I still kinda hate Manus Peak.
Then I picked up a tactical sniper rifle, found a little-used spot, and went sniper hunting.
Feelings of helpless rage much reduced.
Yes, there's a measure of irony there. No, I don't give a kitten. There's nothing quite like double-tapping the bastard who's been one-shotting your team. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
178
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Posted - 2013.04.11 16:00:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway.
Let's see...
3-4 damage mods? check At least 19% bonus damage from passive skills? check I DIED BY A HEADSHOT????? check
Yep, that's a thale's sniper for you. Get yourself a militia dropship and find the guy next time, ok? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
933
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Posted - 2013.04.11 16:04:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote: Yep, that's a thale's sniper for you. Get yourself a militia dropship and find the guy next time, ok?
That's what J11 did to me . Pulled out my Thale again. Got lots more where they came from. Once trading starts you will see more Thales out there. My corpmates have around 500 to trade .
Its gonna be fun harvesting those tears |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
158
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Posted - 2013.04.11 16:11:00 -
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Lol @ complaining about a OHK gun while using a OHK gun. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
82
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Posted - 2013.04.11 16:12:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote: If it is taking you 4 shots to take down anybody with a forge gun, it is because you are missing. The militia forge gun does 1200 base damage, without any damage modifiers. A direct hit with a forge will OHK anybody.
As to the "anti-tank rifles" argument, A sniper rifle has 10% efficiency toward vehicles. That means 50 damage per hit with the thales (as headshot bonuses are not available)
TL;DR: welcome to new eden, HTFU
While this is true and I agree, let me play devil's advocate with this one, for someone to kill with the forge gun its requires either high ground against the target, or calculating the arc of the shell, just like the Thale's zoom. But unlike the forge gun, you can sit on the redline, even behind the mcc drop point and still rack plenty of kills without ever breaking a sweat with the Thale.
TL;DR: The dmg is fine, the zoom.... a lil too much, at least on the current maps. |
PAs Capone
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.04.11 17:09:00 -
[37] - Quote
"In Training" |
bcs1a
ROYAL SQUAD
1
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Posted - 2013.04.11 18:09:00 -
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Tarquin Markel wrote:For a while, I really hated Manus Peak.
... Hell, I still kinda hate Manus Peak.
Then I picked up a tactical sniper rifle, found a little-used spot, and went sniper hunting.
Feelings of helpless rage much reduced.
Yes, there's a measure of irony there. No, I don't give a kitten. There's nothing quite like double-tapping the bastard who's been one-shotting your team.
you know, I can relate to this post. I spawned in my expensive sniper suit instead of my cheap one for the stunt i had intended to do and heard a ping next to me, so I decided, ok, I'll pop dude then re-suit.... Well long story short, dude was a good sniper and beat me to the punch. Ok so now a bit aggravated and down a few AUR and a nice rifle, I spawned in that same suit again and this time, I beat him to the punch. I re-suited into my BP'd sniper suit and waited for him to show again and one shot`d him with a BP rifle.
I felt better and we exchanged mutual fan-mail afterward.
the glitchers are the ones that really get my goat though, pop multiple rounds into their heads and nothing but a flash of blue, or they are shooting you through a rock and how that rock will allow them to see and shoot you while blocking your shots is beyond me. Same with some walls... I've been shot through a wall before ugh....
:P
o/ Bill
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Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
95
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Posted - 2013.04.11 18:22:00 -
[39] - Quote
bcs1a wrote: the glitchers are the ones that really get my goat though, pop multiple rounds into their heads and nothing but a flash of blue, or they are shooting you through a rock and how that rock will allow them to see and shoot you while blocking your shots is beyond me. Same with some walls... I've been shot through a wall before ugh....
Hm. I don't know about the walls, but ...
The "head glitch," as I understand it, is a terrain rendering problem. The terrain you see, even through a sniper scope, is only a rough approximation of the terrain that is actually there. If your mark is hidden behind a little 2-foot mound (like the ones at the top of the road west of B on Manus Peak), they'll often look to you like they're entirely exposed ... but you can't get anything more out of them than the blue flash. Your system is saying, "Clear shot." Theirs is saying., "Not so fast-- mound of dirt in the way."
The interesting thing about this is that there is no "actual" head glitch-- they're not truly invulnerable, just minimally exposed. If they can shoot you, you can shoot them ... though it might only be the top half of their head that's poking up.
That's one reason I like the tactical: a better scope. Easier to adjust aim to try and find exposed slices of bastard sniper. |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
74
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Posted - 2013.04.11 18:38:00 -
[40] - Quote
Aren't officer's weapons supposed to OP? |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2173
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:04:00 -
[41] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:Alldin Kan wrote: Yep, that's a thale's sniper for you. Get yourself a militia dropship and find the guy next time, ok?
That's what J11 did to me . Pulled out my Thale again. Got lots more where they came from. Once trading starts you will see more Thales out there. My corpmates have around 500 to trade . Its gonna be fun harvesting those tears I remember back when you could kill militia tanks with an AR you could also take out dropships at range with the Thale |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
178
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:12:00 -
[42] - Quote
What forge are you using? I struggle with the idea of wasting damage when I direct hit someone with a forge gun XD |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1283
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:17:00 -
[43] - Quote
Green Living wrote:Saw a dude go 40-0 head glitching on Anus Peak with a charge sniper rifle. Hope that map is gone after May 6. Yeah, because we should take maps out of the game because of a bug related to character models and weapons. You should totally go work for Sony Online Entertainment. You'd fit right in. |
Vasily G Zaytsev
Kilrathi Knights
0
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Posted - 2013.04.12 15:26:00 -
[44] - Quote
Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway.
LMMFAO, so darn funny to see this rant. This guy actually sent me a in game mail threatening my life if he ever met me. Im guessing im the reason for this entertaining thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2175
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Posted - 2013.04.12 15:40:00 -
[45] - Quote
Vasily G Zaytsev wrote: LMMFAO, so darn funny to see this rant. This guy actually sent me a in game mail threatening my life if he ever met me. Im guessing im the reason for this entertaining thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
You or any other random sniper with a Thale |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
46
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:26:00 -
[46] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Vasily G Zaytsev wrote: LMMFAO, so darn funny to see this rant. This guy actually sent me a in game mail threatening my life if he ever met me. Im guessing im the reason for this entertaining thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
You or any other random sniper with a Thale
Sleepy how come you never play anymore? I'd love to see what all this hype is about |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
132
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Posted - 2013.04.12 17:40:00 -
[47] - Quote
I think we should refer to it as a terrain glitch. I am constantly moving around in small increments to find the weak spot. But, if a sniper is being protected by terrain and you can manage to find a spot where you are as well.. haha.. that is some funny stuff right there.
As far as a thale, I'd love to get one, but i think CCP hates me. However, I took 6 thales from an enemy while countersniping with a charged. I guess charged is a poor man's thale due to damage. It's also a perfect counter sniper weapon. Just something to think about? Try building up a counter sniper suit and go after guys like that. I would imagine the only thing better is a militia vs thale kill. |
Soozu
5o1st
54
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Posted - 2013.04.12 18:15:00 -
[48] - Quote
A single Thale bullet makes you rage..?? I'm wondering what Magic Water will do to you. For those who have never come across him, count yourself lucky. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
153
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Posted - 2013.04.12 18:32:00 -
[49] - Quote
seeing ~500 shields drop from my suit from a sniper is never enjoyable
however once he makes the mistake of shooting me, i make it my new goal to find him and kill him. usually end up dropping an OB on his head. worth it to permanently remove one of his officer guns. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
51
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Posted - 2013.04.12 19:12:00 -
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Rupture Reaperson wrote: While this is true and I agree, let me play devil's advocate with this one, for someone to kill with the forge gun its requires either high ground against the target, or calculating the arc of the shell, just like the Thale's zoom. But unlike the forge gun, you can sit on the redline, even behind the mcc drop point and still rack plenty of kills without ever breaking a sweat with the Thale.
TL;DR: The dmg is fine, the zoom.... a lil too much, at least on the current maps.
Forge gun doesn't have an arc; you're thinking of the mass driver. |
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Jathniel
G I A N T
162
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:27:00 -
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I'm sorry the Thale's made you miserable, OP.
It IS the strongest sniper rifle in the game. If it makes you feel any better, I can personally guarantee you that no other sniper rifle in this game will OHK you the same way. You will most likely NOT deal with Thale's on a regular basis, since they are quite rare.
Speaking of rarity... has anyone actually used a Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle?
2100 Angels wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Vasily G Zaytsev wrote: LMMFAO, so darn funny to see this rant. This guy actually sent me a in game mail threatening my life if he ever met me. Im guessing im the reason for this entertaining thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
You or any other random sniper with a Thale Sleepy how come you never play anymore? I'd love to see what all this hype is about
Having played with him personally. I can say he is indeed a fine sniper.
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Schalac 17
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:50:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Lol @ complaining about a OHK gun while using a OHK gun. Actually, he is using a 4HK gun. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
473
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:57:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Speaking of rarity... has anyone actually used a Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle? Only SI and Imperfect guys have it since it was a tournament reward and doesn't drop from salvage.
Though, it only does like 15 more damage than the Proto.
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
179
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:26:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I remember back when you could kill militia tanks with an AR you could also take out dropships at range with the Thale
wut |
Jathniel
G I A N T
162
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:29:00 -
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Just did a skirmish with a Thale's. lol actually lost like 2 of them.
Amazing to see how the presence of that weapon totally changes priorities for the reds in a match.
Should of used it from the red line. *snaps fingers* |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
460
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Posted - 2013.04.12 23:38:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:The Thale is a glorious machine passed down to us from the heavens to pass judgement on the vermin below. From our mountains among the clouds we reign terror leaving nothing but butthurt and broken controllers in our presence.
long live the gayar snipicus Just wait for the Minmatar SR's. It'll have nothing but an ironsight for aiming, but when it hit's something it has a 3m blast radius |
Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
100
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Posted - 2013.04.13 03:55:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Just wait for the Minmatar SR's. It'll have nothing but an ironsight for aiming, but when it hit's something it has a 3m blast radius
Nah. It'll be scoped, it'll have arcing fire, and it'll very likely be single-shot, but it'll hit like a meteor strike on anything shy of a tank. Anti-material rifle. That's my guess. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:14:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:323 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.40 = 572.03300 damage
X2 head shots = 1144.066, sounds lethal to me.
Edit: I forgot the stacking penalty and that damage modes are multiplicative, so it should be a little less damage than that. 323*1.10*1.15*1.2722 (stacking with 4 complex damage mods) = 519.8146 519.8146*1.95 (headshot bonus) = 1013.638 damage. I would like to point out that it is increasingly more difficult to get a headshot with the thales due to its increased zoom fidelity. To put this in context though: These assumptions are based on having Sniper Rifle Operation V, Sniper Rifle Proficiency 5, a prototype suit with 4 high slots, 4 damage mods AND an OFFICER weapon. There is absolutely every reason in the world that a fit like this would one shot your best suit (with a headshot only mind you) and two shot it with body shots. EDIT: just to put your post in context: Quote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. If it is taking you 4 shots to take down anybody with a forge gun, it is because you are missing. The militia forge gun does 1200 base damage, without any damage modifiers. A direct hit with a forge will OHK anybody. As to the "anti-tank rifles" argument, A sniper rifle has 10% efficiency toward vehicles. That means 50 damage per hit with the thales (as headshot bonuses are not available) TL;DR: welcome to new eden, HTFU Tell me again how stupidly easy it is to use a forge gun. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:15:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Protoman Is God wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. I'm glad you've taken your in game rage to the forums. You too would get destroyed on a LAN. You'd pull your cord against me over LAN homie. I've run it through my head when SOCOM was popular, and it's too difficult to pull the ethernet cord while gaming. Try again |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:16:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. Was it a head shot? Unlike noobs, I'm moving around all the time. It's quite difficult to get a headshot on me. |
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:18:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Lol @ complaining about a OHK gun while using a OHK gun. You don't use a forge gun often, do you. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:22:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:What forge are you using? I struggle with the idea of wasting damage when I direct hit someone with a forge gun XD I mostly use the DAU, but I have forge gun op 5, with proficiency 2 or 3. I have 5 each of the Ishukone and the Kaalakiota; the Ishukone is hardly worth the price, while the Kaalakiota is next to useless when the 9K330 is a much better bang for the buck. With Vipers though, I enjoy dropping them in one shot with my DCMA. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:24:00 -
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Soozu wrote:A single Thale bullet makes you rage..?? I'm wondering what Magic Water will do to you. For those who have never come across him, count yourself lucky. With almost 1000 HP, yeah, it got me pretty damn pissed off. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:25:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Winscar Shinobi wrote:Lol @ complaining about a OHK gun while using a OHK gun. Actually, he is using a 4HK gun. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to use the DCMA??? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:30:00 -
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Ignore some comments, I got home not too long ago from drinking. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
219
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Posted - 2013.04.13 09:17:00 -
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I've sniped a thale user with a militia sniper rifle.
The guy never respawned. |
blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.04.13 10:04:00 -
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yea you want to stop this **** go sniper hunting, right now no one sniper hunts and so snipers run the maps in rare and or expensive gear, hunt them and it will go back to getting pecked at by MLT which **** my worst scout suit can shrug off. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2182
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Posted - 2013.04.13 16:32:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:I remember back when you could kill militia tanks with an AR you could also take out dropships at range with the Thale wut E3 brah, maybe I'm thinking of the charge actually
but I did bring down a myron with a Thale before I do know that |
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