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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:53:00 -
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I swear I posted in this thread....
Great now my wifi is lying to me. |
Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:54:00 -
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For a while, I really hated Manus Peak.
... Hell, I still kinda hate Manus Peak.
Then I picked up a tactical sniper rifle, found a little-used spot, and went sniper hunting.
Feelings of helpless rage much reduced.
Yes, there's a measure of irony there. No, I don't give a kitten. There's nothing quite like double-tapping the bastard who's been one-shotting your team. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
178
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Posted - 2013.04.11 16:00:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway.
Let's see...
3-4 damage mods? check At least 19% bonus damage from passive skills? check I DIED BY A HEADSHOT????? check
Yep, that's a thale's sniper for you. Get yourself a militia dropship and find the guy next time, ok? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
933
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Posted - 2013.04.11 16:04:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote: Yep, that's a thale's sniper for you. Get yourself a militia dropship and find the guy next time, ok?
That's what J11 did to me . Pulled out my Thale again. Got lots more where they came from. Once trading starts you will see more Thales out there. My corpmates have around 500 to trade .
Its gonna be fun harvesting those tears |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
158
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Posted - 2013.04.11 16:11:00 -
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Lol @ complaining about a OHK gun while using a OHK gun. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
82
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Posted - 2013.04.11 16:12:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote: If it is taking you 4 shots to take down anybody with a forge gun, it is because you are missing. The militia forge gun does 1200 base damage, without any damage modifiers. A direct hit with a forge will OHK anybody.
As to the "anti-tank rifles" argument, A sniper rifle has 10% efficiency toward vehicles. That means 50 damage per hit with the thales (as headshot bonuses are not available)
TL;DR: welcome to new eden, HTFU
While this is true and I agree, let me play devil's advocate with this one, for someone to kill with the forge gun its requires either high ground against the target, or calculating the arc of the shell, just like the Thale's zoom. But unlike the forge gun, you can sit on the redline, even behind the mcc drop point and still rack plenty of kills without ever breaking a sweat with the Thale.
TL;DR: The dmg is fine, the zoom.... a lil too much, at least on the current maps. |
PAs Capone
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.04.11 17:09:00 -
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"In Training" |
bcs1a
ROYAL SQUAD
1
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Posted - 2013.04.11 18:09:00 -
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Tarquin Markel wrote:For a while, I really hated Manus Peak.
... Hell, I still kinda hate Manus Peak.
Then I picked up a tactical sniper rifle, found a little-used spot, and went sniper hunting.
Feelings of helpless rage much reduced.
Yes, there's a measure of irony there. No, I don't give a kitten. There's nothing quite like double-tapping the bastard who's been one-shotting your team.
you know, I can relate to this post. I spawned in my expensive sniper suit instead of my cheap one for the stunt i had intended to do and heard a ping next to me, so I decided, ok, I'll pop dude then re-suit.... Well long story short, dude was a good sniper and beat me to the punch. Ok so now a bit aggravated and down a few AUR and a nice rifle, I spawned in that same suit again and this time, I beat him to the punch. I re-suited into my BP'd sniper suit and waited for him to show again and one shot`d him with a BP rifle.
I felt better and we exchanged mutual fan-mail afterward.
the glitchers are the ones that really get my goat though, pop multiple rounds into their heads and nothing but a flash of blue, or they are shooting you through a rock and how that rock will allow them to see and shoot you while blocking your shots is beyond me. Same with some walls... I've been shot through a wall before ugh....
:P
o/ Bill
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Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
95
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Posted - 2013.04.11 18:22:00 -
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bcs1a wrote: the glitchers are the ones that really get my goat though, pop multiple rounds into their heads and nothing but a flash of blue, or they are shooting you through a rock and how that rock will allow them to see and shoot you while blocking your shots is beyond me. Same with some walls... I've been shot through a wall before ugh....
Hm. I don't know about the walls, but ...
The "head glitch," as I understand it, is a terrain rendering problem. The terrain you see, even through a sniper scope, is only a rough approximation of the terrain that is actually there. If your mark is hidden behind a little 2-foot mound (like the ones at the top of the road west of B on Manus Peak), they'll often look to you like they're entirely exposed ... but you can't get anything more out of them than the blue flash. Your system is saying, "Clear shot." Theirs is saying., "Not so fast-- mound of dirt in the way."
The interesting thing about this is that there is no "actual" head glitch-- they're not truly invulnerable, just minimally exposed. If they can shoot you, you can shoot them ... though it might only be the top half of their head that's poking up.
That's one reason I like the tactical: a better scope. Easier to adjust aim to try and find exposed slices of bastard sniper. |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
74
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Posted - 2013.04.11 18:38:00 -
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Aren't officer's weapons supposed to OP? |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2173
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:04:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Alldin Kan wrote: Yep, that's a thale's sniper for you. Get yourself a militia dropship and find the guy next time, ok?
That's what J11 did to me . Pulled out my Thale again. Got lots more where they came from. Once trading starts you will see more Thales out there. My corpmates have around 500 to trade . Its gonna be fun harvesting those tears I remember back when you could kill militia tanks with an AR you could also take out dropships at range with the Thale |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
178
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:12:00 -
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What forge are you using? I struggle with the idea of wasting damage when I direct hit someone with a forge gun XD |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1283
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:17:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Saw a dude go 40-0 head glitching on Anus Peak with a charge sniper rifle. Hope that map is gone after May 6. Yeah, because we should take maps out of the game because of a bug related to character models and weapons. You should totally go work for Sony Online Entertainment. You'd fit right in. |
Vasily G Zaytsev
Kilrathi Knights
0
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Posted - 2013.04.12 15:26:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway.
LMMFAO, so darn funny to see this rant. This guy actually sent me a in game mail threatening my life if he ever met me. Im guessing im the reason for this entertaining thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2175
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Posted - 2013.04.12 15:40:00 -
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Vasily G Zaytsev wrote: LMMFAO, so darn funny to see this rant. This guy actually sent me a in game mail threatening my life if he ever met me. Im guessing im the reason for this entertaining thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
You or any other random sniper with a Thale |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
46
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:26:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Vasily G Zaytsev wrote: LMMFAO, so darn funny to see this rant. This guy actually sent me a in game mail threatening my life if he ever met me. Im guessing im the reason for this entertaining thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
You or any other random sniper with a Thale
Sleepy how come you never play anymore? I'd love to see what all this hype is about |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
132
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Posted - 2013.04.12 17:40:00 -
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I think we should refer to it as a terrain glitch. I am constantly moving around in small increments to find the weak spot. But, if a sniper is being protected by terrain and you can manage to find a spot where you are as well.. haha.. that is some funny stuff right there.
As far as a thale, I'd love to get one, but i think CCP hates me. However, I took 6 thales from an enemy while countersniping with a charged. I guess charged is a poor man's thale due to damage. It's also a perfect counter sniper weapon. Just something to think about? Try building up a counter sniper suit and go after guys like that. I would imagine the only thing better is a militia vs thale kill. |
Soozu
5o1st
54
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Posted - 2013.04.12 18:15:00 -
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A single Thale bullet makes you rage..?? I'm wondering what Magic Water will do to you. For those who have never come across him, count yourself lucky. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
153
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Posted - 2013.04.12 18:32:00 -
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seeing ~500 shields drop from my suit from a sniper is never enjoyable
however once he makes the mistake of shooting me, i make it my new goal to find him and kill him. usually end up dropping an OB on his head. worth it to permanently remove one of his officer guns. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
51
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Posted - 2013.04.12 19:12:00 -
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Rupture Reaperson wrote: While this is true and I agree, let me play devil's advocate with this one, for someone to kill with the forge gun its requires either high ground against the target, or calculating the arc of the shell, just like the Thale's zoom. But unlike the forge gun, you can sit on the redline, even behind the mcc drop point and still rack plenty of kills without ever breaking a sweat with the Thale.
TL;DR: The dmg is fine, the zoom.... a lil too much, at least on the current maps.
Forge gun doesn't have an arc; you're thinking of the mass driver. |
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Jathniel
G I A N T
162
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:27:00 -
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I'm sorry the Thale's made you miserable, OP.
It IS the strongest sniper rifle in the game. If it makes you feel any better, I can personally guarantee you that no other sniper rifle in this game will OHK you the same way. You will most likely NOT deal with Thale's on a regular basis, since they are quite rare.
Speaking of rarity... has anyone actually used a Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle?
2100 Angels wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Vasily G Zaytsev wrote: LMMFAO, so darn funny to see this rant. This guy actually sent me a in game mail threatening my life if he ever met me. Im guessing im the reason for this entertaining thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
You or any other random sniper with a Thale Sleepy how come you never play anymore? I'd love to see what all this hype is about
Having played with him personally. I can say he is indeed a fine sniper.
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Schalac 17
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:50:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Lol @ complaining about a OHK gun while using a OHK gun. Actually, he is using a 4HK gun. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
473
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:57:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Speaking of rarity... has anyone actually used a Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle? Only SI and Imperfect guys have it since it was a tournament reward and doesn't drop from salvage.
Though, it only does like 15 more damage than the Proto.
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
179
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:26:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I remember back when you could kill militia tanks with an AR you could also take out dropships at range with the Thale
wut |
Jathniel
G I A N T
162
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:29:00 -
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Just did a skirmish with a Thale's. lol actually lost like 2 of them.
Amazing to see how the presence of that weapon totally changes priorities for the reds in a match.
Should of used it from the red line. *snaps fingers* |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
460
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Posted - 2013.04.12 23:38:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:The Thale is a glorious machine passed down to us from the heavens to pass judgement on the vermin below. From our mountains among the clouds we reign terror leaving nothing but butthurt and broken controllers in our presence.
long live the gayar snipicus Just wait for the Minmatar SR's. It'll have nothing but an ironsight for aiming, but when it hit's something it has a 3m blast radius |
Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
100
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Posted - 2013.04.13 03:55:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Just wait for the Minmatar SR's. It'll have nothing but an ironsight for aiming, but when it hit's something it has a 3m blast radius
Nah. It'll be scoped, it'll have arcing fire, and it'll very likely be single-shot, but it'll hit like a meteor strike on anything shy of a tank. Anti-material rifle. That's my guess. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:14:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:323 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.40 = 572.03300 damage
X2 head shots = 1144.066, sounds lethal to me.
Edit: I forgot the stacking penalty and that damage modes are multiplicative, so it should be a little less damage than that. 323*1.10*1.15*1.2722 (stacking with 4 complex damage mods) = 519.8146 519.8146*1.95 (headshot bonus) = 1013.638 damage. I would like to point out that it is increasingly more difficult to get a headshot with the thales due to its increased zoom fidelity. To put this in context though: These assumptions are based on having Sniper Rifle Operation V, Sniper Rifle Proficiency 5, a prototype suit with 4 high slots, 4 damage mods AND an OFFICER weapon. There is absolutely every reason in the world that a fit like this would one shot your best suit (with a headshot only mind you) and two shot it with body shots. EDIT: just to put your post in context: Quote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. If it is taking you 4 shots to take down anybody with a forge gun, it is because you are missing. The militia forge gun does 1200 base damage, without any damage modifiers. A direct hit with a forge will OHK anybody. As to the "anti-tank rifles" argument, A sniper rifle has 10% efficiency toward vehicles. That means 50 damage per hit with the thales (as headshot bonuses are not available) TL;DR: welcome to new eden, HTFU Tell me again how stupidly easy it is to use a forge gun. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:15:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Protoman Is God wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. I'm glad you've taken your in game rage to the forums. You too would get destroyed on a LAN. You'd pull your cord against me over LAN homie. I've run it through my head when SOCOM was popular, and it's too difficult to pull the ethernet cord while gaming. Try again |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.04.13 08:16:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Do you wonder why so many people are complaining CCP?
I GOT DESTROYED IN ONE SHOT BY THE THING WITH DAMAGE TO SPARE! Over a thousand damn points from a sniper rifle?
Maybe that's what I'll spec into when we get the next build, so I can fight like a child too.
This is absolutely unbelievable. Takes me at least 4 shots to take down advanced heavy suits with a forge gun, and I have splash damage. Can't run fast, can't turn fast, charge time of at least 2.5 seconds, yet this guy gets a sniper rifle that can do over 1000 damage per hit? Are you looking to make anti tank rifles?
Eat it, CCP. If you don't make the heavy's description true to word, I'm absolutely sure you're going to lose more people.
Stop listening to these assault fanboys, they don't know what they're talking about anyway. Was it a head shot? Unlike noobs, I'm moving around all the time. It's quite difficult to get a headshot on me. |
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