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Sir Snugglz Arrogance. 1	Posted - 2013.03.21 21:47:00 - [1] - Quote With the confirmation of not resetting the skill points back to zero. How about skill point reallocation? Since this is a beta I'm sure many have been testing different combinations of suits/vehicles. By now we have a nice picture of what direction we would like to go. Unfortunately a lot of SP was wasted on those test skills. It would be nice if we can have all our SP and put it where we would actually want when the game ends its beta run. Since passive SP counted separately from active we can maybe refund all earned SP and lose passive SP in exchange for an opportunity to reallocate SP. OPINIONS?
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 761	Posted - 2013.03.21 21:49:00 - [2] - Quote no, besides those skills will be useful in the future
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N 29	Posted - 2013.03.21 21:50:00 - [3] - Quote Probably to be avoided. I think a number of players buy passive SP boosters with real money.
N1ck Comeau Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 122	Posted - 2013.03.21 21:50:00 - [4] - Quote Don't really care i'm happy with my skill points now. If they do anything to let you reallocate them then everyone would have it all on the best things and the game would be boring
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 538	Posted - 2013.03.21 21:52:00 - [5] - Quote "Testing" you say? No, most people put points into AR/Tanks and don't bother to test anything.

GM Vegas Game Masters C C P Alliance 433	Posted - 2013.03.21 21:53:00 - [6] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: If they do anything to let you reallocate them then everyone would have it all on the best things What's the best thing in game then? What's best today might not be the best tomorrow. Something you could find interesting here though. CCP Eterne wrote: We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile.

DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 2106	Posted - 2013.03.21 21:56:00 - [7] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile. Please take this off the table and put it in game, would love the option, at least once ^_^
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 940	Posted - 2013.03.21 22:03:00 - [8] - Quote The option won't be given untill we have 6ore weapons and the 20 new dropsuit skills
Berneh DustFace Killshot Corp 11	Posted - 2013.03.21 22:09:00 - [9] - Quote A reset would be awesome, assuming we get the full ammount of SP, oh and our aurum back too, thanks very much , is saturday ok with you CCP ? :D
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 721	Posted - 2013.03.21 22:53:00 - [10] - Quote If it was modeled after EVE with a once a year respec, would be a nice option.

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 538	Posted - 2013.03.21 22:55:00 - [11] - Quote Berneh DustFace wrote: A reset would be awesome, assuming we get the full ammount of SP, oh and our aurum back too, thanks very much , is saturday ok with you CCP ? :D Assuming that Aurum went into boosters, why would you get it back? -_-'
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1084	Posted - 2013.03.21 22:56:00 - [12] - Quote Respec in eve is only for attributes, not the SP you already have.
Shadowswipe WarRavens 23	Posted - 2013.03.21 23:17:00 - [13] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: Something you could find interesting here though. CCP Eterne wrote: We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile. Instead of beating around the bush with answers, is there anyway we could at least get a confirmation that once new racial dropsuits are added to the game, could we at least refund those points already spent in the dropsuits? I am currently at a block with skill training and suit power. I need to train up a dropsuit to lvl 3 to get into a stronger setup. Yet I don't want to get to lvl 3 and then the next day Amarr Logisitics get released and I have to train up all over again. This seems like such a simple thing to confirm as I would assume they would be refunded... but... you know stranger things have happened.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 940	Posted - 2013.03.22 00:37:00 - [14] - Quote dent 308 wrote: Respec in eve is only for attributes, not the SP you already have. Yet eve players do get refunds to respec when skills are changed
Dany 7A5H G I A N T 14	Posted - 2013.03.22 00:48:00 - [15] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: If they do anything to let you reallocate them then everyone would have it all on the best things What's the best thing in game then? What's best today might not be the best tomorrow. Something you could find interesting here though. CCP Eterne wrote: We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile. I believe that the best solution would be to allow relocation of skillpoints AT A COST based on amount of SP in question. Ex: -You only retain 60% of skill points, loosing 40%. -Would cost Aurum or isk. Give the option to use either/or. *1000 isk = 1sp 1AR = 1sp thoughts?
Kay High The Lions Guard 92	Posted - 2013.03.22 00:50:00 - [16] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: dent 308 wrote: Respec in eve is only for attributes, not the SP you already have. Yet eve players do get refunds to respec when skills are changed but only if the skill is removed like when they got rid of the learning skills. But if they change a skill like Battlecruiser they will just give the skill to the other skills in the same group unless you have all four Racial Cruiser then you get a refund.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 31	Posted - 2013.03.22 00:51:00 - [17] - Quote refunding sp just sounds bad. maybe just once for its release maybe but thats it. you made a bad sp choice than deal with it and go into what you want to.
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 148	Posted - 2013.03.22 00:55:00 - [18] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: The option won't be given untill we have 6ore weapons and the 20 new dropsuit skills Not to mention all of the new tank skills and dropships incomming. The number of skills is going to triple sooner than later a reset is obviously coming. And all the testing you've done won't help u pick what to respec into. Where are you getting these numbers? Dont get me wrong, I agree they will be coming, but where are you getting 20 from?
Dany 7A5H G I A N T 14	Posted - 2013.03.22 01:01:00 - [19] - Quote ladwar wrote: refunding sp just sounds bad. maybe just once for its release maybe but thats it. you made a bad sp choice than deal with it and go into what you want to. How is refunding XP that gives you diminished returns and costs isk and AUR a bad idea? Your basically disadvantaging yoursef in the long run of things to marginally increase other areas... Have you never sold your car to buy a new one? THAT was a bad idea my friend...
G Torq ALTA B2O 104	Posted - 2013.03.22 06:59:00 - [20] - Quote No resets No respec, outside of expensive, ineffective aurum gear* If a skill is removed from the game, give any SP back that was sunk into it *: E.g. a 5.000 AUR thingy that lets you drop 1 skill by 1 level, returning you 80% of the SP.

General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 259	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:27:00 - [21] - Quote gbghg wrote: no, besides those skills will be useful in the future dito, if the reset, ALL SP is given back or none at all, been set back at square one since last summer, it happens again, i get all my goddies back, SP, ISK, ARUM, and all modules/suits/vehicles
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 259	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:28:00 - [22] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Probably to be avoided. I think a number of players buy passive SP boosters with real money. we do
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 259	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:29:00 - [23] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: If they do anything to let you reallocate them then everyone would have it all on the best things What's the best thing in game then? What's best today might not be the best tomorrow. Something you could find interesting here though. CCP Eterne wrote: We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile. dual HMG/forge gunner counter-sniper/anti-vehicle splatter, an infantry deflator
Vanda-Kon KILLSTAR CO. 85	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:34:00 - [24] - Quote The ability to respec in other games allowed me to really know what I should specialize in. Fun ensued. Hope CCP does it.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 545	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:35:00 - [25] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: gbghg wrote: no, besides those skills will be useful in the future dito, if the reset, ALL SP is given back or none at all, been set back at square one since last summer, it happens again, i get all my goddies back, SP, ISK, ARUM, and all modules/suits/vehicles lol, that might be a little overboard... or a lot.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 131	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:36:00 - [26] - Quote I'd pay aurum for respec. Not reset. Respec. (bring my sp pool back for a lot of AUR)
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 259	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:48:00 - [27] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: gbghg wrote: no, besides those skills will be useful in the future dito, if the reset, ALL SP is given back or none at all, been set back at square one since last summer, it happens again, i get all my goddies back, SP, ISK, ARUM, and all modules/suits/vehicles lol, that might be a little overboard... or a lot. hey, i've had it all yanked from me one too many times, i can't take losing everything all over again
G Torq ALTA B2O 104	Posted - 2013.03.22 08:00:00 - [28] - Quote Vanda-Kon wrote: The ability to respec in other games allowed me to really know what I should specialize in. Fun ensued. Hope CCP does it. Observation: within 6 months (3 with boosters and regular playing) you should be able to have maxed out at least 1 complete branch such as Assault suit+rifles+armor+various. As such, respecing would not mean a whole lot since after maxing out in 1 direction, you can grow in different direction. Remember, unline most other games, in Dust you grow wide, not tall.
Vanda-Kon KILLSTAR CO. 85	Posted - 2013.03.22 08:05:00 - [29] - Quote G Torq wrote: Vanda-Kon wrote: The ability to respec in other games allowed me to really know what I should specialize in. Fun ensued. Hope CCP does it. Observation: within 6 months (3 with boosters and regular playing) you should be able to have maxed out at least 1 complete branch such as Assault suit+rifles+armor+various. As such, respecing would not mean a whole lot since after maxing out in 1 direction, you can grow in different direction. Remember, unline most other games, in Dust you grow wide, not tall. I went in different directions at times to test things and I wish I could reapply that to things I'm sure about. But I do understand the grow wide part.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 539	Posted - 2013.03.22 08:22:00 - [30] - Quote Respecing in EVE is like farting loudly in church. CCP, please don't make a mess.



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