I didn't sate an entire capsule...(my god why are you so stupid?) I said "same tech" as in a more compact less refined version of it simple enough to let one person control a land/air vehicle (<--this is not hard to comprehend)

A capsule is capable of space flight, the basic equipment that allows a capsuleer to command a cruiser could easily be striped down to the basic components and jammed into a tank.

(please keep in mine a capsule has to contain fuel, life support, systems for navigation, etc etc)

Anyway, plenty of things can be overpowered yet be easy to kill.

Word of advice - If you want to tell CCP that something is broke, tell them what is broke, and why do you think like that. You are strongly attacking tanks in general it this treat and it is very harmful.

You act like you only read my title. I explained why HAVs were overpowered, and how to fix it without actually making them inferior. I agree, HAVs are not overpowered against AV, but a disorganized foe likely won't have powerful enough of AV. That's why I am suggesting this. Why should HAVs require less cooperation than AV? That's my main point, and I thought I made it quite clear in my wall of text.

Tanks in general are not overpowered, the militia one is okay and has plenty of survivabilty. A fully specced and fully "tanked" tank is ludicrously overpowered. I've had matches where at least five people were shooting at a tank with swarms and I was using a militia forge gun. The tank did not get below half armour.

Tanks should be powerful but when six guys let off AV at a single tank and it shrugs them off like whatever, then something is wrong.

I haven't specced into tanks at all and my experience with them is 99% from being mowed down by them but as my paragraph above explains, six guys should be able to take down a single tank .

I'm a tanker, and I love tanks. Unfortunately, there is a storm brewing regarding the Heavy Assault Vehicle. HAVs are tanks, and therefore should be overpowered if seen as a singular entity. However, all too often I hear complaints about how a single person can run around in a HAV and murder everyone without a care. Unfortunately, this is true. A HAV has multiple objectives: draw enemy fire away from infantry; pin down enemy infantry; take out enemy vehicles. It performs all these tasks admirably in most situations, and I don't think that should change. However, the fact that it can operate with such a small crew is not a good thing, either. It isn't realistic and it isn't balanced.

Militia AV works on Militia tanks - yes, you can try to kill something better with just militia stuff, but don't expect to kill it. Instead you may pin it down, with is good.
If you would skill-up to tanks you will know that they high resistance are not permanent, every active module have cool-down, and sooner or later tank driver have to disengage to hide somewhere for 30 second. In that time he is vulnerable, and you could probably solo him in that time(if he don't know where you are, and you have him on plate).
Beside that, AV grenades are one of most successfully AV that can be easily fited on you dropsuit without heavy drawback. SL takes L slot, Forge Guns take way more then just weapon slot. Thats whey AV granades are perfect, you can easlly protect with them against waves of enemy troops.
SL have one more thing worth to mention, they screw a little bit with tank optics - if swarms are launch directly at tank, they generate smoke that hide shooter, of curse if tank driver is come he gone kill SL in time. Each AV weapon for tank driver is a threat, if he see swarms on air he don't know yet is it militia one or proto so he will try to counter them same each and every time with a high level of caution, with manse that he can turn on all his hardeners on and have problem becaous of it in next 60sec(armor). So it is not like that all AV is a crap. Even if you are using Militia stuff you have impact on high grade tanks.


It's BS or we are not playing in the same game. Yesterday I killed Railgun-Sagraris that engage me, with my Blaster-Madruger, at other match I die to 4guys with AV granades in some militia suit, is it sound's ok for you? None force people to skill-up they characters to use better AV stuff; AV granades and proxy mines are one of those that don't required plenty of skillpoints. If you are in tank, and you see crowd of people, do you engange them at close or not? If not you are good, because you realize that even capital ships in eve means nothing if you don't have fleet to protect them. All tanks need cover form his team-mates infantry, always when you are spawning tank it is not one men show. Yes you may end up with 30 frags on you score, but it's not because you are awesome and tanks are OP. Big part of pie go to people that in first place did a scout-job for you, telling you where are AV guys if they couldent kill them right away, or that did inform you where is enemy tank and where is he heading to..

All people that want HAV nerfed are 1d1ots that do not want to spec Av but want to kill proto tanks by militia swarms.
IF YOU GOING TO NERF THOSE FREAKING TANKS REFUND ALL MY 5M SP THAT I USED TO MAKE MY TANK BETTER.

Tanks should be operated by at least 2 people. Right now they can solo better then any other piece of equipment/dropsuit on the battlefield. They should require logi support to do well or have to resupply their ammo like everyone else. why they get unlimited ammo is beyond me.

This is quite hunestly one of the stupidest topics I have ever seen. HAVs are not OP. They rip balls off of people not equipped to kill tanks. This is as it should be. If you are tooling around with ARs, mass drivers, sniper rifles and HMGs then you are getting rolled for your lunch money.

The last three Sagaris marauders I got into it with I blew the kitten out of them in three shots with my forge gun. One took four because he had a proper tank fit, go figure. Im running full proto AV fits right now, and, militia tanks take one more shot than an LAV for me to execute.

Surya marauders are trickier but I kill more of them than escape because I took the time to learn how to kill them. Tanks are only overpowered if no one on your team is willing to deploy the proper tools to destroy them. The toolkit is there, and if you take the time to use it correctly you can become a holy kittening terror for vehicle drivers.

Further for you dinguses spouting lore, all the tanks need is a cybernetic neural uplink. Hydrostatic capsules were created to sustain capsuleers, but the only reason they exist is the neural burner used to transfer consciousness accurately is rediculously bulky. the capsules were built around it. With the advent of the DUST neural transfer implant, the hydrostatic capsule has been rendered obsolete. It, and the clone mechanics in EVE are due for a redesign.

Finally, 99% of AV in DUST 514 is militia grade. Somewhere, you people were spoon-fed the delusion that militia grade AV was simply good enough. It is if you have five or more militia AV concentrating fire, but if you want an HAV burned use proto AV. They don't shrug those hits off. They run or they die.

So only proto should be able to deal with tanks? What a load of ass cheeks.

If militia AV fits are incapable of dealing with tanks (which they aren't) then they shouldn't exist as an AV fit, they should be called anti LAV and Dropship fits. Either that or tanks are overpowered, you choose.

Tanks should be operated by at least 2 people. Right now they can solo better then any other piece of equipment/dropsuit on the battlefield. They should require logi support to do well or have to resupply their ammo like everyone else. why they get unlimited ammo is beyond me.

So only proto should be able to deal with tanks? What a load of ass cheeks.

If militia AV fits are incapable of dealing with tanks (which they aren't) then they shouldn't exist as an AV fit, they should be called anti LAV and Dropship fits. Either that or tanks are overpowered, you choose.