DUST Search - Open world, Defiance.

gbghg wrote:

Dalton Smithe wrote:

Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:

$60 initial charge, paid DLC, microtransactions...Defiance had better be exceptional for all that money.

Defiance is a very radical idea. I hope that it lasts. The fact that it is attached at the hip to a television show that hasn't even aired yet, well lets just say that one will effect the other in more ways than they can think of. If the television show gets cancled, what happens to the game? Will it be able to hold onto its player base? And vise-versa, what if the game fails? It may not have as great an impact on the show, but it will have some...I just think there is a bit of risk involved with that game, less so in Dust because CCP has an established game to fall back on(not that I think Dust will fail, I just don't think CCP is taking as great a risk.).

But its the very fact that both dust and defiance are trans-media projects(counting integration with eve for dust) is what attracted me to them in the first place, i really hope both do very well because we're looking at an evolution in the idea of what games are and can be and how closely tied the various aspects of the entertainment industry can be. Yes it's a risk but success or failure both games will have changed people's perceptions of what games can be

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TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 337	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:08:00 - [1] - Quote Downloading it for Ps3. 1000 players all at once. I really like to see Dust 514 to be open world and fly my Dropship around the planet.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 704	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:13:00 - [2] - Quote agreed would be awesome, but the amount of AV dropships would attract would be horrible
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 240	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:15:00 - [3] - Quote come to papa and his forge gun
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 704	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:18:00 - [4] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: come to papa and his forge gun "I'm sorry timmy but daddy has eaten so much food he has to wear a special fatsuit from now on"
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 560	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:20:00 - [5] - Quote CONCORDOKEN as soon as they start charging!
Skipper Jones ZionTCD Legacy Rising 16	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:30:00 - [6] - Quote I would hate CCP if they changed it to an open world game.
Mithridates VI Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 365	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:32:00 - [7] - Quote In before moved to Locker Room.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 52	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:34:00 - [8] - Quote Skipper Jones wrote: I would hate CCP if they changed it to an open world game. Why? IIRC, Dust was billed as being Open World PVP FPS a long while ago. It is the whole reason it grabbed my interest, the reason why I started playing Eve. If Dust is to have any meaningful connection to Eve, it needs to be Open World.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 240	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:35:00 - [9] - Quote gbghg wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: come to papa and his forge gun "I'm sorry timmy but daddy has eaten so much food he has to wear a special fatsuit from now on" that fat suit lets him lift heavy weapons like the dropship swatter (better known as the forge gun)
Skipper Jones ZionTCD Legacy Rising 16	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:50:00 - [10] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Skipper Jones wrote: I would hate CCP if they changed it to an open world game. Why? IIRC, Dust was billed as being Open World PVP FPS a long while ago. It is the whole reason it grabbed my interest, the reason why I started playing Eve. If Dust is to have any meaningful connection to Eve, it needs to be Open World. How would this game be any better with open world. What, am I gonna just walk around a random planet and shoot some random merc I see on the same planet. When I say open world I don't mean flying from planet to planet in my war barge, I mean walking around with the liberty to go where ever I want and do anything while I'm there. That flying from planet to planet isn't an open world game for a FPS. Maybe for another type of game, but in my opinion not for dust.

Phoenix Archer 128 Better Hide R Die 126	Posted - 2013.03.20 02:07:00 - [11] - Quote $60 initial charge, paid DLC, microtransactions...Defiance had better be exceptional for all that money.
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 69	Posted - 2013.03.20 02:12:00 - [12] - Quote TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: Downloading it for Ps3. 1000 players all at once. I really like to see Dust 514 to be open world and fly my Dropship around the planet. While it would be pretty awesome for Dust to be an open world, that is truly impossible. Dust is not just going to span one world, but dozens of worlds at first, then hundreds, and maybe even thousands of worlds. The sheer size of storage they would need to run full open world maps for all those planets would be staggering. Even considering that EVE is an open space game, most of the open space is empty, with a few planets per system, at most maybe 50 asteroid belts in a system, the rest is just open area. If they were to fill all that space up with objects they would need so much storage, it would become more of a burden than a benefit.
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 69	Posted - 2013.03.20 02:17:00 - [13] - Quote Phoenix Archer 128 wrote: $60 initial charge, paid DLC, microtransactions...Defiance had better be exceptional for all that money. Defiance is a very radical idea. I hope that it lasts. The fact that it is attached at the hip to a television show that hasn't even aired yet, well lets just say that one will effect the other in more ways than they can think of. If the television show gets cancled, what happens to the game? Will it be able to hold onto its player base? And vise-versa, what if the game fails? It may not have as great an impact on the show, but it will have some...I just think there is a bit of risk involved with that game, less so in Dust because CCP has an established game to fall back on(not that I think Dust will fail, I just don't think CCP is taking as great a risk.).
SuperMido Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 67	Posted - 2013.03.20 02:20:00 - [14] - Quote Open World, Yes...1000 players all at once...Not really, thats just for coop. The PvP matches will be 32 players on consoles. Same stuff!!!!!
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 710	Posted - 2013.03.20 02:24:00 - [15] - Quote Dalton Smithe wrote: Phoenix Archer 128 wrote: $60 initial charge, paid DLC, microtransactions...Defiance had better be exceptional for all that money. Defiance is a very radical idea. I hope that it lasts. The fact that it is attached at the hip to a television show that hasn't even aired yet, well lets just say that one will effect the other in more ways than they can think of. If the television show gets cancled, what happens to the game? Will it be able to hold onto its player base? And vise-versa, what if the game fails? It may not have as great an impact on the show, but it will have some...I just think there is a bit of risk involved with that game, less so in Dust because CCP has an established game to fall back on(not that I think Dust will fail, I just don't think CCP is taking as great a risk.). But its the very fact that both dust and defiance are trans-media projects(counting integration with eve for dust) is what attracted me to them in the first place, i really hope both do very well because we're looking at an evolution in the idea of what games are and can be and how closely tied the various aspects of the entertainment industry can be. Yes it's a risk but success or failure both games will have changed people's perceptions of what games can be
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 52	Posted - 2013.03.20 02:34:00 - [16] - Quote Skipper Jones wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Skipper Jones wrote: I would hate CCP if they changed it to an open world game. Why? IIRC, Dust was billed as being Open World PVP FPS a long while ago. It is the whole reason it grabbed my interest, the reason why I started playing Eve. If Dust is to have any meaningful connection to Eve, it needs to be Open World. How would this game be any better with open world. What, am I gonna just walk around a random planet and shoot some random merc I see on the same planet. When I say open world I don't mean flying from planet to planet in my war barge, I mean walking around with the liberty to go where ever I want and do anything while I'm there. That flying from planet to planet isn't an open world game for a FPS. Maybe for another type of game, but in my opinion not for dust. Look at it from the same perspective as Eve, think of planets as solar systems and Districts as stations. PVE anomalies could be "dungeons" (for lack of a better term) that could be invaded by PVP seeking players looking to murder and rob PVE seeking players. Who says you'd be walking? We've got vehicles, why not use them to explore the planets? Can you honestly tell me that you'd prefer to have the Merc Quarters and only instanced matches rather than having instanced matches as an aside from planetary exploration or just a Merc Quarters instead of having planetary exploration to break/supplement the grind of instanced matches?? That seems bass ackwards to me, it would be like telling the chef "No, I do not want that entire smorgasbord of all my favorite foods, I just want these jello cup samples of my favorite foods"
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3204	Posted - 2013.03.20 02:40:00 - [17] - Quote "[REQUEST] Never ending game mode: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=61582&find=unread Update: Good idea, but we will need to solve tech limitations to this first." https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=613344#post613344 Kind of related, you may be interested.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 59	Posted - 2013.03.20 04:02:00 - [18] - Quote isnt it supposed to come out on in April? i saw it in the store early today they even have the Beta out(demo cough*)
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 695	Posted - 2013.03.20 04:40:00 - [19] - Quote Phoenix Archer 128 wrote: $60 initial charge, paid DLC, microtransactions...Defiance had better be exceptional for all that money. Im not impressed with it. Been playing the beta for a few hours now and in trying to like it, but no luck
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 42	Posted - 2013.03.20 04:42:00 - [20] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Phoenix Archer 128 wrote: $60 initial charge, paid DLC, microtransactions...Defiance had better be exceptional for all that money. Im not impressed with it. Been playing the beta for a few hours now and in trying to like it, but no luck check the customization maybe there is something good there

Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 181	Posted - 2013.03.20 04:59:00 - [21] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: "[REQUEST] Never ending game mode: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=61582&find=unread Update: Good idea, but we will need to solve tech limitations to this first." https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=613344#post613344 Kind of related, you may be interested. Now I just need to find some subtle way to sneak my idea on open world implementation into the discussion. Maybe then everyone will love me...
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 241	Posted - 2013.03.20 05:21:00 - [22] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: "[REQUEST] Never ending game mode: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=61582&find=unread Update: Good idea, but we will need to solve tech limitations to this first." https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=613344#post613344 Kind of related, you may be interested. Now I just need to find some subtle way to sneak my idea on open world implementation into the discussion. Maybe then everyone will love me... DENIED
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 69	Posted - 2013.03.20 05:33:00 - [23] - Quote gbghg wrote: Dalton Smithe wrote: Phoenix Archer 128 wrote: $60 initial charge, paid DLC, microtransactions...Defiance had better be exceptional for all that money. Defiance is a very radical idea. I hope that it lasts. The fact that it is attached at the hip to a television show that hasn't even aired yet, well lets just say that one will effect the other in more ways than they can think of. If the television show gets cancled, what happens to the game? Will it be able to hold onto its player base? And vise-versa, what if the game fails? It may not have as great an impact on the show, but it will have some...I just think there is a bit of risk involved with that game, less so in Dust because CCP has an established game to fall back on(not that I think Dust will fail, I just don't think CCP is taking as great a risk.). But its the very fact that both dust and defiance are trans-media projects(counting integration with eve for dust) is what attracted me to them in the first place, i really hope both do very well because we're looking at an evolution in the idea of what games are and can be and how closely tied the various aspects of the entertainment industry can be. Yes it's a risk but success or failure both games will have changed people's perceptions of what games can be Exactly, I think its awesome what both games are bringing to the table. It makes me wonder what the game landscape will be in ten years. It's only been in the past decade that online gaming has taken off. I guess with the advent of high speed internet it was inevitable....
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3204	Posted - 2013.03.20 05:54:00 - [24] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: "[REQUEST] Never ending game mode: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=61582&find=unread Update: Good idea, but we will need to solve tech limitations to this first." https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=613344#post613344 Kind of related, you may be interested. Now I just need to find some subtle way to sneak my idea on open world implementation into the discussion. Maybe then everyone will love me... I am familiar with your idea, and it is awesome.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 152	Posted - 2013.03.20 12:35:00 - [25] - Quote I watched the long trailer for defiance TBH it looked crap The aliens looked bland and unorginal and wtf with everyone shooting each other in the bar then running off to fight aliens with less numbers because they shot each other up before hand They would have been better making Startship Troopers game open world where you defend against the bugs
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 695	Posted - 2013.03.20 12:58:00 - [26] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I watched the long trailer for defiance TBH it looked crap The aliens looked bland and unorginal and wtf with everyone shooting each other in the bar then running off to fight aliens with less numbers because they shot each other up before hand They would have been better making Startship Troopers game open world where you defend against the bugs I remember way back when, there was a starship troopers game in development, don't know what happened to it. I think it was supposed to be on the original Xbox. Also, remember 'BC' that was in development? That went t!ts up too lol, that was another open world game set in prehistoric times.
Green Living Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz 85	Posted - 2013.03.20 15:18:00 - [27] - Quote Have played the game for around 4 hours and Green Living is not impressed. It's like a poor mans Borderlands imo.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3163	Posted - 2013.03.20 15:34:00 - [28] - Quote And 6 hours of cotent!!!
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 45	Posted - 2013.03.20 16:07:00 - [29] - Quote I am liking the game. PvE is fun and PvP
GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Legacy Rising 147	Posted - 2013.03.20 16:14:00 - [30] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Can you honestly tell me that you'd prefer to have the Merc Quarters and only instanced matches rather than having instanced matches as an aside from planetary exploration or just a Merc Quarters instead of having planetary exploration to break/supplement the grind of instanced matches?? That seems bass ackwards to me, it would be like telling the chef "No, I do not want that entire smorgasbord of all my favorite foods, I just want these jello cup samples of my favorite foods" I can honestly tell you that I have absolutely no interest in open world gameplay. It adds nothing to it for me, and would take an absolutely massive effort from CCP to do. That would come at the expense of the actual game that most of us want to play, a persistant sci-fi FPS. I get it, some of you guys want to go ratting, and do all those other boring parts of Eve. I don't . I want to fight a war, over hundreds of battles on everything from asteroids to ships, to planets. That is what I signed up for, not going for a drive to see if I can find a small outcropping of Arknore. CCP already has huge problems with mission creep, and if you encourage them to start wasting resources on diversions, instead of focusing on the core elements, you end up with a game that does nothing great, and the rest is mediocre at best. So, no, CCP, please don't even bother wasting a single man hour on this until after we have a fully functioning market place, can hold SOV, and for those that are interested, have a ratting sidegame. Then, if you want ot spend 6 years creating a boring as hell space driving game, go nuts. BTW, the last sentence of your post makes me chuckle. But you are wrong. Instead of asking for one well cooked and thought out course, you want them to undercook everything. That leads to food poisoning.



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