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Panther AIpha
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:17:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Panther AIpha wrote:LOL....
1st problem : Defiance is a MMORPG, which is what i thought it was, and IT IS.
2nd problem : Dust 514 is not a MMORPG, which is what i thought it was, but is NOT.
You can attack Defiance as much as you want, but the truth is undeniable.
It may not be as good as Dust 514, but it delivers what it promise ;
Open world Massively Online Multi-player Shooter. And for the low low price of 59.99, you can experience it all at a genre-shattering 5 frames per second! Pre-order today!
What is the difference ?
Dust 514 is becoming a P2W game, i most likely will need to spend that much every month, to be competitive ..... The difference is that with the Defiance i will get the full game, and not just 10% of it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:18:00 -
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Beta Dust Fish wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:[quote=Panther AIpha]LOL....
And for the low low price of 59.99, you can experience it all at a genre-shattering 5 frames per second!
Pre-order today! and you have Spent how much so far? seeing how your a forum tryhard I bet you will lie too
How much on what, exactly?
I haven't spent a dime on defiance nor do I intend to. If I want a poorly illustrated slideshow I'll bust out my crayons and a notebook.
Also what is a tryhard and why are you cryhards so worried about them? |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
162
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:23:00 -
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1. Defiance is a kids game. 514 claims it's not, but it is becoming more and more of a kids game. both are easy but the community will make them out to be harder then they are. community will prolly handle Defiance easier since it's pve and most folks here can't handle pvp.
2. good let the kids go play defiance, they suck at 514 and need so many training wheels that it's tanking 514.
3. "Would it be better if we could load up a 64 man team and a couple of CRU's and go looking for places to invade?" naw man you would hate it. go play the arma2 mod called "Wasteland"; it's EXACTLY what you are talking about cept no mini map, real weapons that take real skill and a REAL mmo map. but for all that, just like Buttnaked said, it's boring. you spend an assload of time traveling and when you get there, the fire fight is intense and usually pretty short. it's the EXACT opposite of what you are used to and even more so the opposite of what you are capable of playing. if 514 was a TRUE mmo, none of you would be here.
4. CCP has the summer to get this thing up and running. if they hit the fall and the game isn't out, they are done. defiance should be off the air by fall and the game will prolly be a LOL in the gaming media, but GTAV? that game will turn 514 into a ghost town. mostly because the crappy younger players who have crappy "parent" will all be on GTAV playing an M rated game instead of doing their homework. if GTAV and 514 come out at the same time, well i guess the 5 or 6 people playing 514 can split up the planets and run the show for what it's worth.
5. this isn't an mmo. and it actually hasn't even reached PFPS status yet. it's a fps that's looking more and more like a pos.
6. thank god ps4 is around the corner and all this kid style garbage will be left behind for a while. gonna be nice to have the adults only console next year. keep saving your pennies, ladies. maybe you can buy one in 2015.
Peace B |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:25:00 -
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Panther AIpha wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Panther AIpha wrote:LOL....
1st problem : Defiance is a MMORPG, which is what i thought it was, and IT IS.
2nd problem : Dust 514 is not a MMORPG, which is what i thought it was, but is NOT.
You can attack Defiance as much as you want, but the truth is undeniable.
It may not be as good as Dust 514, but it delivers what it promise ;
Open world Massively Online Multi-player Shooter. And for the low low price of 59.99, you can experience it all at a genre-shattering 5 frames per second! Pre-order today! What is the difference ? Dust 514 is becoming a P2W game, i most likely will need to spend that much every month, to be competitive ..... The difference is that with the Defiance i will get the full game, and not just 10% of it.
Yea, so, if thats the case how come I am able to use a stock HMG and wreck everybody in proto gear? And what happens when you cap out on SP for your particular dropsuit and weaponry, and are able to afford proto-everything with isk?
I have not yet come into one instance where I've been forced to buy anything to compete. Thats just an excuse people come up with when they suck and need to shift the blame to something other than themselves. |
Panther AIpha
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:28:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:1. Defiance is a kids game. 514 claims it's not, but it is becoming more and more of a kids game. both are easy but the community will make them out to be harder then they are. community will prolly handle Defiance easier since it's pve and most folks here can't handle pvp.
2. good let the kids go play defiance, they suck at 514 and need so many training wheels that it's tanking 514.
3. "Would it be better if we could load up a 64 man team and a couple of CRU's and go looking for places to invade?" naw man you would hate it. go play the arma2 mod called "Wasteland"; it's EXACTLY what you are talking about cept no mini map, real weapons that take real skill and a REAL mmo map. but for all that, just like Buttnaked said, it's boring. you spend an assload of time traveling and when you get there, the fire fight is intense and usually pretty short. it's the EXACT opposite of what you are used to and even more so the opposite of what you are capable of playing. if 514 was a TRUE mmo, none of you would be here.
4. CCP has the summer to get this thing up and running. if they hit the fall and the game isn't out, they are done. defiance should be off the air by fall and the game will prolly be a LOL in the gaming media, but GTAV? that game will turn 514 into a ghost town. mostly because the crappy younger players who have crappy "parent" will all be on GTAV playing an M rated game instead of doing their homework. if GTAV and 514 come out at the same time, well i guess the 5 or 6 people playing 514 can split up the planets and run the show for what it's worth.
5. this isn't an mmo. and it actually hasn't even reached PFPS status yet. it's a fps that's looking more and more like a pos.
6. thank god ps4 is around the corner and all this kid style garbage will be left behind for a while. gonna be nice to have the adults only console next year. keep saving your pennies, ladies. maybe you can buy one in 2015.
Peace B
Defiance is a 18+ game ...what you mean is ;
Let all the adults go to Defiance, and the kids to play Dust 514 ....
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:29:00 -
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Panther AIpha wrote:BASSMEANT wrote:1. Defiance is a kids game. 514 claims it's not, but it is becoming more and more of a kids game. both are easy but the community will make them out to be harder then they are. community will prolly handle Defiance easier since it's pve and most folks here can't handle pvp.
2. good let the kids go play defiance, they suck at 514 and need so many training wheels that it's tanking 514.
3. "Would it be better if we could load up a 64 man team and a couple of CRU's and go looking for places to invade?" naw man you would hate it. go play the arma2 mod called "Wasteland"; it's EXACTLY what you are talking about cept no mini map, real weapons that take real skill and a REAL mmo map. but for all that, just like Buttnaked said, it's boring. you spend an assload of time traveling and when you get there, the fire fight is intense and usually pretty short. it's the EXACT opposite of what you are used to and even more so the opposite of what you are capable of playing. if 514 was a TRUE mmo, none of you would be here.
4. CCP has the summer to get this thing up and running. if they hit the fall and the game isn't out, they are done. defiance should be off the air by fall and the game will prolly be a LOL in the gaming media, but GTAV? that game will turn 514 into a ghost town. mostly because the crappy younger players who have crappy "parent" will all be on GTAV playing an M rated game instead of doing their homework. if GTAV and 514 come out at the same time, well i guess the 5 or 6 people playing 514 can split up the planets and run the show for what it's worth.
5. this isn't an mmo. and it actually hasn't even reached PFPS status yet. it's a fps that's looking more and more like a pos.
6. thank god ps4 is around the corner and all this kid style garbage will be left behind for a while. gonna be nice to have the adults only console next year. keep saving your pennies, ladies. maybe you can buy one in 2015.
Peace B Defiance is a 18+ game ...what you mean is ; Let all the adults go to Defiance, and the kids to play Dust 514 ....
Speaking of which, aren't you supposed to be gone?
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Panther AIpha
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:33:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Panther AIpha wrote:BASSMEANT wrote:1. Defiance is a kids game. 514 claims it's not, but it is becoming more and more of a kids game. both are easy but the community will make them out to be harder then they are. community will prolly handle Defiance easier since it's pve and most folks here can't handle pvp.
2. good let the kids go play defiance, they suck at 514 and need so many training wheels that it's tanking 514.
3. "Would it be better if we could load up a 64 man team and a couple of CRU's and go looking for places to invade?" naw man you would hate it. go play the arma2 mod called "Wasteland"; it's EXACTLY what you are talking about cept no mini map, real weapons that take real skill and a REAL mmo map. but for all that, just like Buttnaked said, it's boring. you spend an assload of time traveling and when you get there, the fire fight is intense and usually pretty short. it's the EXACT opposite of what you are used to and even more so the opposite of what you are capable of playing. if 514 was a TRUE mmo, none of you would be here.
4. CCP has the summer to get this thing up and running. if they hit the fall and the game isn't out, they are done. defiance should be off the air by fall and the game will prolly be a LOL in the gaming media, but GTAV? that game will turn 514 into a ghost town. mostly because the crappy younger players who have crappy "parent" will all be on GTAV playing an M rated game instead of doing their homework. if GTAV and 514 come out at the same time, well i guess the 5 or 6 people playing 514 can split up the planets and run the show for what it's worth.
5. this isn't an mmo. and it actually hasn't even reached PFPS status yet. it's a fps that's looking more and more like a pos.
6. thank god ps4 is around the corner and all this kid style garbage will be left behind for a while. gonna be nice to have the adults only console next year. keep saving your pennies, ladies. maybe you can buy one in 2015.
Peace B Defiance is a 18+ game ...what you mean is ; Let all the adults go to Defiance, and the kids to play Dust 514 .... Speaking of which, aren't you supposed to be gone?
I come and go .... Why? is annoying you ? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:40:00 -
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On the contrary, I love watching people double back on their declared intentions and place themselves in a perfect position to be tortured. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
364
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:43:00 -
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I must playing a diffrent beta I loved defiance last night watching 40 people all drive towards an arkfall and then break out into epic co-op boss battle was awsome if ccp can create a similar feel they should do well. However it's Apple and oranges the ganes are fundamitly diffrent and should not be comparied other than pointing out I can aim correctly in defince Hint Hint |
Panther AIpha
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:47:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:On the contrary, I love watching people double back on their declared intentions and place themselves in a perfect position to be tortured.
I never been one to follow rules, or let society dictate my actions.
What you call "Torture", i call it an " Interesting " experience. |
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
162
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:00:00 -
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"Defiance is a 18+ game ...what you mean is "
you're fighting AI bugs and you ask why it's a kids game?
this is why you guys have such a hard time with 514.
you're kinda dim.
Peace B |
Panther AIpha
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:07:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:"Defiance is a 18+ game ...what you mean is "
you're fighting AI bugs and you ask why it's a kids game?
this is why you guys have such a hard time with 514.
you're kinda dim.
Peace B
"you're fighting AI bugs"
Starship Troopers!! I love that film.
"this is why you guys have such a hard time with 514"
Not really... very easy game compare to others.... But after 3 month of repetitive game-play i'm a bit bore.. i confess. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:31:00 -
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Watching beta footage of it atm
Looks smooth and PVE looks okay for general fun but looks easy and mutants spawn anywhere out of nowhere, PVP is 4v4 i think and looks crap and pointless
World looks big, not detailed and very samey
Upgrades look decent and customization seem well thought out
Arc event things are just a clusterfuck for ppl to get together and kill some aliens
Aliens themselves look bland and **** tbh and also very stupid and just seems so easy to kill them
Overall its an open world mix of fallout and borderlands with easy unoriginal aliens and is aimed just for something to shoot at in large numbers
I might try out the beta but it does look meh, no purpose to it |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
374
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:38:00 -
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I really had a different idea what Defiance would be.
I do know that the client we're playing on is months old since it has to go through Sony's QA process before it can be placed on the store, so a lot of issues in terms of stablity and comms are already fixed for launch game.
That said Defiance is a great way to pass a little bit of time before you're ready for the challenge of real PVP.
Also the game definitely has P2W elements with the microtransactions and tier boxes but since PVP isnt comepetitive anyway and more just there for the sake of being there it doesnt matter.
The game is as a buddy of mine put it WOW with Guns. That said it can be a lot of fun once the group size increases past 4 or they allow proxy chat after part of the fun of online gaming is the social nature of just "hanging out" with your buddies. |
Panther AIpha
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:41:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Watching beta footage of it atm
Looks smooth and PVE looks okay for general fun but looks easy and mutants spawn anywhere out of nowhere, PVP is 4v4 i think and looks crap and pointless
World looks big, not detailed and very samey
Upgrades look decent and customization seem well thought out
Arc event things are just a clusterfuck for ppl to get together and kill some aliens
Aliens themselves look bland and **** tbh and also very stupid and just seems so easy to kill them
Overall its an open world mix of fallout and borderlands with easy unoriginal aliens and is aimed just for something to shoot at in large numbers
I might try out the beta but it does look meh, no purpose to it
It sounds that you "almost "describing Dust 514...Well, except for the PVE, world looks big, and the aliens . ... |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
593
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:45:00 -
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Panther AIpha wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Watching beta footage of it atm
Looks smooth and PVE looks okay for general fun but looks easy and mutants spawn anywhere out of nowhere, PVP is 4v4 i think and looks crap and pointless
World looks big, not detailed and very samey
Upgrades look decent and customization seem well thought out
Arc event things are just a clusterfuck for ppl to get together and kill some aliens
Aliens themselves look bland and **** tbh and also very stupid and just seems so easy to kill them
Overall its an open world mix of fallout and borderlands with easy unoriginal aliens and is aimed just for something to shoot at in large numbers
I might try out the beta but it does look meh, no purpose to it It sounds that you "almost "describing Dust 514...Well, except for the PVE, world looks big, and the aliens . ... Except one is a glorified demo with a tacked on multiplayer... |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:46:00 -
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Panther AIpha wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Watching beta footage of it atm
Looks smooth and PVE looks okay for general fun but looks easy and mutants spawn anywhere out of nowhere, PVP is 4v4 i think and looks crap and pointless
World looks big, not detailed and very samey
Upgrades look decent and customization seem well thought out
Arc event things are just a clusterfuck for ppl to get together and kill some aliens
Aliens themselves look bland and **** tbh and also very stupid and just seems so easy to kill them
Overall its an open world mix of fallout and borderlands with easy unoriginal aliens and is aimed just for something to shoot at in large numbers
I might try out the beta but it does look meh, no purpose to it It sounds that you "almost "describing Dust 514...Well, except for the PVE, world looks big, and the aliens . ...
But in DUST its 'arc events' actually cause things to happen at least in lore but we are allowed to change the direction, once we get to pick sides then it will be better
As for the aliens yes swap with drones, at the drones do look orginal the aliens look like some half arsed attempt of ripping off the bugs from starship troopers except they are worse
PVP in dust is fun, pve yet to see
Some parts are similar, others not so |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
757
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Posted - 2013.03.21 18:26:00 -
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defiance is fun but there's nothing that makes me want to keep playing the game. It's a good game but if i brought it i would probably stop playing after a month or two |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1242
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Posted - 2013.03.21 19:51:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Panther AIpha wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Watching beta footage of it atm
Looks smooth and PVE looks okay for general fun but looks easy and mutants spawn anywhere out of nowhere, PVP is 4v4 i think and looks crap and pointless
World looks big, not detailed and very samey
Upgrades look decent and customization seem well thought out
Arc event things are just a clusterfuck for ppl to get together and kill some aliens
Aliens themselves look bland and **** tbh and also very stupid and just seems so easy to kill them
Overall its an open world mix of fallout and borderlands with easy unoriginal aliens and is aimed just for something to shoot at in large numbers
I might try out the beta but it does look meh, no purpose to it It sounds that you "almost "describing Dust 514...Well, except for the PVE, world looks big, and the aliens . ... But in DUST its 'arc events' actually cause things to happen at least in lore but we are allowed to change the direction, once we get to pick sides then it will be better As for the aliens yes swap with drones, at the drones do look orginal the aliens look like some half arsed attempt of ripping off the bugs from starship troopers except they are worse PVP in dust is fun, pve yet to see Some parts are similar, others not so
No we're not. They've set up the story so no matter which side we help "win" the end is the same. The titan is still being destroyed so the only lasting effect of our actions is predetermined. Why do you think we don't get to pick which side we fight for? Because it doesn't matter. |
Avinash Decker
BetaMax. CRONOS.
31
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Posted - 2013.03.21 19:51:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Panther AIpha wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Watching beta footage of it atm
Looks smooth and PVE looks okay for general fun but looks easy and mutants spawn anywhere out of nowhere, PVP is 4v4 i think and looks crap and pointless
World looks big, not detailed and very samey
Upgrades look decent and customization seem well thought out
Arc event things are just a clusterfuck for ppl to get together and kill some aliens
Aliens themselves look bland and **** tbh and also very stupid and just seems so easy to kill them
Overall its an open world mix of fallout and borderlands with easy unoriginal aliens and is aimed just for something to shoot at in large numbers
I might try out the beta but it does look meh, no purpose to it It sounds that you "almost "describing Dust 514...Well, except for the PVE, world looks big, and the aliens . ... But in DUST its 'arc events' actually cause things to happen at least in lore but we are allowed to change the direction, once we get to pick sides then it will be better As for the aliens yes swap with drones, at the drones do look orginal the aliens look like some half arsed attempt of ripping off the bugs from starship troopers except they are worse PVP in dust is fun, pve yet to see Some parts are similar, others not so
The events in dust don't really influence the gameplay at all, it will only effect those that care about the lore which in itself not many people actually know anything about( The lore in the game is basically none existent . The only real way to learn about the lore is either visit the forums which not many do or go to Eve Wikipedia which even less do) . Defiance have its own TV show and its been said that what happens in the game changes the story in the TV show and visa versa . |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.21 19:54:00 -
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Moving this thread to the locker room. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:55:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Panther AIpha wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Watching beta footage of it atm
Looks smooth and PVE looks okay for general fun but looks easy and mutants spawn anywhere out of nowhere, PVP is 4v4 i think and looks crap and pointless
World looks big, not detailed and very samey
Upgrades look decent and customization seem well thought out
Arc event things are just a clusterfuck for ppl to get together and kill some aliens
Aliens themselves look bland and **** tbh and also very stupid and just seems so easy to kill them
Overall its an open world mix of fallout and borderlands with easy unoriginal aliens and is aimed just for something to shoot at in large numbers
I might try out the beta but it does look meh, no purpose to it It sounds that you "almost "describing Dust 514...Well, except for the PVE, world looks big, and the aliens . ... But in DUST its 'arc events' actually cause things to happen at least in lore but we are allowed to change the direction, once we get to pick sides then it will be better As for the aliens yes swap with drones, at the drones do look orginal the aliens look like some half arsed attempt of ripping off the bugs from starship troopers except they are worse PVP in dust is fun, pve yet to see Some parts are similar, others not so No we're not. They've set up the story so no matter which side we help "win" the end is the same. The titan is still being destroyed so the only lasting effect of our actions is predetermined. Why do you think we don't get to pick which side we fight for? Because it doesn't matter.
We cant pick sides yet like i said
Maybe when we are allowed to pick sides our actions may change things and force CCPs hand to change based on our actions |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
602
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:08:00 -
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Only good thing about defiance is the free roam, missions still glitch THIS CLOSE TO RELEASE |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2013.03.23 23:09:00 -
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Cant even group up
Im in UK cant group up with ppl in US
xbox version is region locked for release also because microsoft requested it
PS3 dont know yet, if its region locked it will sink |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
169
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:31:00 -
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doesn't matter.
GTAV will kill of everything...
514 included.
Peace B |
Fingal Senga
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
20
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Posted - 2013.03.25 17:29:00 -
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Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:$60 initial charge, paid DLC, microtransactions...Defiance had better be exceptional for all that money.
It's not, sorry to say. Felt more Mario bros than ArmA, as far as the action side of things goes. That being said, if it was f2p I may have given it a go for a week or two to properly test it out, but as it stands I will not go beyond the beta. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
99
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Posted - 2013.03.27 11:32:00 -
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Played Defiance beta,
uunggh, typical MMO, go there, get that, do something when you get there, come back, kills some NPC's, travel, bring me 5 of those things, deilver 5 of those.
The pvp is laugheble, 1-2 shots general direction kill (crosshairs r huge)
Its an MMO with a shooter ontop, not a shooter with an MMO ontop.
I was planning on trying it, until i tried it...sadly because combined with the TV series, it looked like a cool thing to play. |
Deranged Disaster
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
67
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Posted - 2013.03.27 13:03:00 -
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Nice cutscenes, decent customization. The physics the developers were bragging about are glitchy as hell, I have no clue how many times I got slingshotted across the map because I touched a little rock with my quad bike. The combat is BORING and the thing that really irritated me mostly was the fact that you have to buy the game, buy the DLCs and you can also get microtransactions. It can't compete with DUST, I enjoyed the first beta builds more than I enjoyed Defiance. |
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