That's it.
You know what? I'm going to make an all boys channel! YEAH
And it'll be better than some smelly, creepy girl channel.

We'll have punch and pie too. Bet your stinky channel doesn't have punch and pie.

*cough* sexism *cough, cough, cough*

Il show you sexism big boy

I think I'll stay away from the corporate locker room from now on

NO MEANS NO! *swings nova knives*

Would it be sexist if I made a male only channel?

Would it be sexist if I made a male only channel?

I was actually being serious when I said this was sexist, I just presented it in a silly manner

Valencia, you could also check out http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/WGoE maybe there's something to be done there for the female dusties to chat with the female EVE pilots.

Best of luck and hope it turns out good, New Eden needs more nice places for the girls

edit/regarding "not a creepy dude" what about the non-creepy ones?

/c

I'm a hermaphrodite. So can I join?

Do you identify as female? Your gender is not determined by what's in your pants or under your skirt.

I'm curious how you mean to verify lack of creepy dudeness.

I was meaning to post this a week ago. Anyways, there are now 2 channels for women only. I created one of them and the other is by Bunny Wink. Anyways, send me a message in game if you want the channel names/pass.

I will need to verify that you're not a creepy dude, so I'll probably send you a squad invite or have you send me one to square that away.

I'm excited though! :)

don't give up, do you?



inb4 lock

inb4 lock

InImmediatelyAfterFail

Because it excluded by gender...

The difference between sexism and feminism is that sexism was formed to separate men and women based on the idea that "men are better than women", while feminism is based on the idea that "women are equal to men". It's not sexist that I've created a separate channel for women. I did it because I'm tired of males coming on to me in-game because I am a female, acting like I have to be waaaay better (or a lot freaking worse) than them because I am a female, calling me foul words and saying I belong in a kitchen because I am a female, [I could continue this list] and I believe other women feel my pain.


PLEASE let me know NOW that males get this same **** online and I will delete my channels. I'm not saying all males are douche bags, a-holes, stupid, or any other negative thing. I care about too many people to ever generalize any of them. I'm not saying all females are saints either (****, I'm not and I know too many who aren't). I just want to get to the comradeship part without being eroticized. I don't expect every woman to be heterosexual because I'm not, but I do expect to be respected since I'm giving that same respect. Female gamers give me that regardless of sexuality.

[Explanation]

Not disagreeing with what you said but sexism is a two way street, its just like with racism its assumed that it only applies one way which is itself racist/sexist. And it really is ****** that people act like such douches to anyone perceived as being different from the norm, in this case female gamers.

I probably wouldn't even bother explaining the nuances of patriarchy to most of the forumgoers, you'll wind up bogged down in semantics rather than the reality of the situation.

The responses I am anticipating to this explanation include "but not all guys are like that, you're generalising!", "sexism works both ways!" and "I'm one of the nice guys!", totally oblivious to the tried and true tropes they are trotting out.

The overwhelming majority of the people you are explaining this to are positively affected by the situation giving them no reason to put any thought into it and plenty of reason to ignore it. If they want to educate themselves, the internets are FULL of resources to do so.

Do you identify as female? Your gender is not determined by what's in your pants or under your skirt.

Wtf!? Says who? Science? Research? Doubt it, So I can switch to a male any time I want and then switch back to a female whenever I feel like it?

The thread is derailing... how about letting this thread be about her channel and create a new sexist/feminism thread to discuss that?

Wtf!? Says who? Science? Research? Doubt it, So I can switch to a male any time I want and then switch back to a female whenever I feel like it?

I was meaning to post this a week ago. Anyways, there are now 2 channels for women only. I created one of them and the other is by Bunny Wink. Anyways, send me a message in game if you want the channel names/pass.

I will need to verify that you're not a creepy dude, so I'll probably send you a squad invite or have you send me one to square that away.

I'm excited though! :)

I only turn my mic on in squad, but sometimes the squad leader forgets to lock the squad and we have randoms join. That hasn't really been an issue for me though (I've met some really awesome people through random squads - *cough*Jane*cough*).

This one time, I had one guy join and proceed to immediately FREAK OUT saying "OMG OMG OMG OMG..! ARE YOU A GIRL?!" I swear he was hyperventilating. We are not rare and mythical unicorns - come on, just take a look outside.

My squad leader said something to the effect of "No, he's just a young boy."

It was pretty hilarious.

I count myself among one of the lucky ones on Dust (and in FPS games in general) who hasn't been the target of very many sexist / offensive remarks, but I know that it does exist and it happens quite frequently to others. What Valencia and a few others have said is correct... There is definitely a difference between getting harrassed for being a scrub or how you play the game and getting harrassed based on your gender. If you can't tell the difference between the two, then you are part of the problem.

... who was being silly?

On Topic: i will say, i take exception to being thought of as a "creepy dude"... i mean we havent even met... im actually quite charming, and have been told i give amazing hugs (and not in a "your like a big pillow" hug)

jeeze, how many times has this been posted all over the forum? give up already

Maybe twice. Careful not to give the impression that women with an opinion make you uncomfortable ;)

CCP keeps locking them for spam, just sayin.....

Link?

EDIT: Or are you specifically referring to the duplicate of this thread which occurred at a time when a number of other new posts were hit by a double post? Because if so, that's a pretty dishonest representation of the situation.

EDITTOEDIT: The only other "female only" thread by this OP, seeing as you specifically complained about this OP, is here and is not locked.

You tell the website "post this" and it bugs out and does it twice or tells you it didn't so you click the button again, same as double-posting a reply.

This poor thread is getting derailed to all hell.

I have been told to go play Little Big Planet.

According to the guy that said that, I must be feminine. Because I flipping love Little Big Planet

My personal philosophy is that you dont really know someone untill you have spent the night getting totally drunk together and having a great time, which is why when someone started adding me on Facebook, then giving my facebook link to other players behind my back i actually got quite pissed off and creeped out. This creeper is in another corp now so i dont have to deal with his pathetic ass but you get my point.

According to the guy that said that, I must be feminine. Because I flipping love Little Big Planet

The other day, I was on my alt when I received five new emails on Dust. The first four were blank and the last one said "hey babes". I sat there laughing for a couple minutes. I give him a 4/10 and a gold star for trying.

The other day, I was on my alt when I received five new emails on Dust. The first four were blank and the last one said "hey babes". I sat there laughing for a couple minutes. I give him a 4/10 and a gold star for trying.

lol talking about me and my detective skills, although I never gave your Facebook out, infact I pmd you saying to remove your real name from irc because you were easily traceable. Which was the topic of discussion (how easy it was to find people for eve spies). I added you because at the time we were friends having played a lot together, chat a lot in irc, c3 even deciding to start betamax. You even asked me to come back when I left for imperfects. Seriously get over yourself.

in regards to chat room: segregation won't resolve your problem. Join an active corp, get to know the members and become friends. You can't compromise if you are adding fuel to the fire (don't believe me? Look at this threads responses).

I'd also like to note gamers are gamers, any abuse you get is because of that, note because you are female. They will use anything against you and because it's common knowledge sexism is a weakness, it's easy pickings. When jenza was being tested in IRC she took it for face value and even gave some back. She didn't earn her respect by segregation or thinking she needs to be treated like a child with us constantly tiptoeing around her.

Captain Awesome aka Steven Azari

Lol, i'll ignore the first part as the chat logs speaks for themselves and anyone with a rational mind knows that adding someone you know only through the internet is creepy. funny that you should be able to recognise yourself as the creeper who passed out my facebook. there has, after all, be n other dust people that added me and i ignored every one of them. I am in an active corp if you hadnt noticed, and all the women in WGoE are in different corps and alliances, sometimes conflicting ones but its still nice to have such a thing there, Its not "segregation" think of it more as players of many different corps and alliance who have a similarity just chatting in a private room. The channel has been going on for years. ever wonder why?

I would encourage any female players thinking of joining this channel or WGoE to do so, its a nice temporary get away.

She said

He said

C'mon guys. He said/She said arguments just end up making both parties look childish and silly. Why derail the thread with personal shenanigans?


I think the idea behind these channels is fine, and going along with my "MUST SQUAD WITH EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE" initiative, encourage these people to invite me to their squads at their leisure, even if I'm not allowed in their channels :(

This.

Here's a good post about how to not be a creeping creeper if anybody is interested. I just wanted to put this out there while we are on the topic of "creepers". My personal favourite is "2. Acknowledge that you donGÇÖt get to define other peopleGÇÖs comfort level with you." You could be the most delicious apple on the tree, but there is always going to be somebody who doesn't like apples. It's not a fair assessment of apples, but it is what it is. Whatever. Haters gonna hate. Move on.

oh you're using the link i showed you.

is it funny or scary?

Awww, that's cute. It would be cuter if the monkey was a sloth though. Sloths win all the awards. The cuteness awards.




What is funny or scary? Your face? (a¦æ-¦OƦ-¦a¦æ)

you want cute? here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8
also nice one against warlord

you want cute? here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8
also nice one against warlord

The difference between sexism and feminism is that sexism was formed to separate men and women based on the idea that "men are better than women", while feminism is based on the idea that "women are equal to men".

I just came here to see how many pervy guys playing as female characters would try to flirt with each other but i noticed this one misconception. sexism is when one gender believes it is superior, feminism is when a woman believes that she needs to prove herself by showing that she is superior to all men. thus feminism is sexism. the only true equality comes from not caring. most of the time when a guy says: Go make me a sandwich, they are joking. Its kind of like racist jokes or in other words just because someone makes one of those jokes it doesn't mean their a member of the *** or in your case a sexist. Often feminist reactions only fuel the joke and make you seem ingnrent to the person trying to mess with you.

EDIT: oh nvm i didn't notice that the topic changed

cute kitteh bombardment!!
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I am horrified at the exploitation of my peoples. I demand that you cease and desist this exploitation immediately!








Now rub my belly

Awww, that's cute. It would be cuter if the monkey was a sloth though. Sloths win all the awards. The cuteness awards.




What is funny or scary? Your face? (a¦æ-¦OƦ-¦a¦æ)

you want cute? here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8
also nice one against warlord

was that a come back?

She's a Canadian. That is considered very harsh for them.

her come back scares me

Just you wait till she starts linking gifs of herself (sorry bunny, had to)

her come back scares me

are you saying gifts?

gif is a type of image file

Canari has let the kitten out of the bag. I have a gif / meme addiction. I miss gif wars.

Also, I actually thought my come back was kinda mean, hence the little emoji to soften the blow. (I don't know what kind of face you have, Warlord, but I'm sure it's lovely.)

Hahhaha, nah. I'm not posting my pic here.

Canari has let the kitten out of the bag. I have a gif / meme addiction. I miss gif wars.

Also, I actually thought my come back was kinda mean, hence the little emoji to soften the blow. (I don't know what kind of face you have, Warlord, but I'm sure it's lovely.)

why are you being nice to me?

C-A-N-A-D-I-A-N

I'm sorry. It won't happen again.

I'm sorry. It won't happen again.

I'm sorry. It won't happen again.

You think that creating a channel for females only is sexist? How?

because it precludes people based on gender?

just saying, if you were prevented from accessing a service, location or job, for example based on your gender, what would that be, if not sexist?

Women's Restrooms = Sexist!

Can everybody agree to disagree, please? Sexist or not, the channel(s) exist for whatever purpose(s) the creator(s) made them for (i.e. safe-spaces, female bonding, synchronizing monthly cycles, etc.) Really, who cares? The channels don't offer any exclusive benefits to it's members that people can't get elsewhere from joining another channel.

No exclusive benefits?

MY GOD... IT'S A CHANNEL FULL OF CHICKS!!!!

That has benefits all it's own.

EDIT: "GAMING CHICKS"

well...

You may joke, but in many European countries, the idea of segregated "rest rooms" is unheard of.

Lets be fair here, there a massive difference between preserving anyone modest when they need a poo and a channel set up to preclude members of the player base, based on their gender alone.

Your point may well be valid, but one thing being sexiest, doesn't make it okay that another thing is too.

Hahaha, all those virtual pillow fights and gossip about the boys with the "highest KDR".

Its not the size of the gun, its the range

Hahaha, all those virtual pillow fights and gossip about the boys with the "highest KDR".

Hahaha, I only said KDR because it's typically seen as THE factor in determining E-PEEN ego size.

But I digress... You fellas should know by now; it's all about the ISK.

God I hate that guy, such an annoying whiny prick

so you are saying the AR is better then the HMG?

I just like killing Reddots,not going to watch the video because what the lotis guy said

LOL, Warlord... Why aren't you on the alliance forums? Don't you know I only joined for YOU?

gbghg, I'm pretty sure someone had to explain what a gif was to him earlier, so I'm not sure that answer is very helpful. Wait- how do I even pronounce your name?

Step 1 - Place 7 marbles in your mouth
Step 2 - Try to say 'gerbil'

It's not a video, it's a gif

while you can dress it up as much as you like, this is still a sexiest channel

[quote=bunnywink]( Don't you know I only joined for YOU?)


lies

if true why?

is it because I have voices my head?

You worry me

why?

That's why

*knight wanders into thread.
GM cleaned up twice already dis gonna b gud
starts reading mildly sexist
thread gets derailed
everyone is getting along and having a good time.
finishes last page a couple of funny comments later.
comes to the conclusion that you don't need a female only channel you just need one without assholes.
thread be proof.

you stole that gif from foxfour

which one? and it's the internet EVERYTHING is a repost

popcorn one

O I saw that one. I ate popcorn while watching that person eat popcorn. Popception

have you watch a person eat popcorn when he is watch another person eat popcorn

I want popcorn.

I want popcorn.

I get this all the time, it's called eating the same food- usually happens on sundays.

What has become of this thread?

What has become of this thread?

The difference between sexism and feminism is that sexism was formed to separate men and women based on the idea that "men are better than women", while feminism is based on the idea that "women are equal to men". It's not sexist that I've created a separate channel for women. I did it because I'm tired of males coming on to me in-game because I am a female, acting like I have to be waaaay better (or a lot freaking worse) than them because I am a female, calling me foul words and saying I belong in a kitchen because I am a female, [I could continue this list] and I believe other women feel my pain.


PLEASE let me know NOW that males get this same **** online and I will delete my channels. I'm not saying all males are douche bags, a-holes, stupid, or any other negative thing. I care about too many people to ever generalize any of them. I'm not saying all females are saints either (****, I'm not and I know too many who aren't). I just want to get to the comradeship part without being eroticized. I don't expect every woman to be heterosexual because I'm not, but I do expect to be respected since I'm giving that same respect. Female gamers give me that regardless of sexuality.

something strange and off topic

bacon

Would it be possible to pay for a feed to this channel?

Bacons

Bacons

Watch as I deftly maneuver this thread back on to the rails. You all knew I was going to weigh in on this one. Don't act so surprised.

Guess what guys? All of this "sexism or not" is nonsense. Complete and total nonsense. You're confusing "segregation" with "separation". White eggs go in this carton and brown eggs go in that one and no one gets to act indignant about it.

My toon is female and her name is female. Big mistake. Every single match while we're in the warbarge someone is going to amuse themselves by slowly walking in to me, backing up and walking in to me again. I'm assuming that's how they think sex works which is great for the rest of us since they'll never manage to reproduce.

Several times I've gotten on the mic only to get "Well dang! You gots a voice like us menfolk but yer a lady on meh movin' picture screen! You ain't a ***** or something are ya??"

And also one player took advantage of the fact the while I was crouching my sniper rifle rested at precisely dong-level so he proceeded to try and mate with my NT-511 by dickramming it the entire match.

So yea, they deserve a female only channel. Seriously. I'm naming my next character BigWangSheetrockHanger VonNASCARnBEER McSkoalBeardTruckBoatTruck.

EDIT:And also bacon.

I'm a pretty girl.

Me too.

Both of you are

Demo tape or GTFO.

You can't watch it because it is too brilliant and it dazzles your eyes?

<--- It's a blushing face.

I have succeeded in making Warlord speechless.

Achievement unlocked? Is that a gold trophy?

just wait he/she will be back to normal.