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Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 652	Posted - 2013.04.08 12:40:00 - [121] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Rubico wrote: It really is Molden Heath and the DUST devs pulled a Tyrannis level screw up. Why would this be a "Tyrannis" level screw up? Because the secret was leaked or because Molden Heath is a terrible region to do it in? I don't remember Tyrannis being that big of a mess. What did I miss? Besides, I doubt that the "First Region" was a huge secret. I think it was more of a "they'll figure it out eventually and if not, we will tell them before the expansion" kind of thing. Heck, it's probably been on Sisi since mid-January and the devs have been running an office pool to see how long it would take us to find it. Some cynical son-of-a-kitten probably just won a month's supply of beer. CCP FoxFour wrote: Rubico wrote: The devs are trolling us and knew people would look on Sisi, they are testing it in Molden Heath but it will change to another region on release. On that day the tears will blot out the sun. The fun thing about districts, changing which region is active is awesome easy. Takes one line to make active or deactive a region. Great for testing. Oh, I don't doubt that you could change it in a heartbeat. There are other considerations, though. From an open beta standpoint, Molden Heath is almost perfect for player testing. As much as I hate the fact that it's in the middle of nowhere, it really is ideal. Any of the other regions wouldn't work as well. Indeed, several of the regions that had enough non-FW lowsec don't have it anymore on Sisi. It's all been turned into FW space. That leaves only a handful of lowsec regions without FW. So, yes, you could. Buy why? (Yes, I know... "Because it's FUN! ".)
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 652	Posted - 2013.04.08 12:55:00 - [122] - Quote Laheon wrote: Entirely possible that they're running it on an internal server rather than holding it on Sisi. And just trolling on Sisi. Oh, it's entirely possible. What would be more likely is for them to swap it later. However, that would require there to be a point to doing so. We were going to get the region announcement in a couple weeks anyway- a month, tops (May 6). Giving us a couple extra weeks to stew in our own juices and ruminate about the optimal strategy doesn't take anything away from the devs' goal of testing PC on a small scale. Indeed, it just makes the initial land grab more reflective of the later strategies people will use instead of forcing them to be all random about it. Having us know in advance just makes their testing easier.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3367	Posted - 2013.04.08 13:49:00 - [123] - Quote HA! My theory of it being in Jove space still holds up!
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 652	Posted - 2013.04.08 13:54:00 - [124] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: HA! My theory of it being in Jove space still holds up! SUUURE it does. Keep telling yourself that, Wolf. The Jove theory holds water like a sieve.
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1228	Posted - 2013.04.08 14:48:00 - [125] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: HA! My theory of it being in Jove space still holds up! The Jove are taking over Molden Heath?!
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 478	Posted - 2013.04.08 14:54:00 - [126] - Quote Vaerana Myshtana wrote: It's all been turned into FW space. FW space has expanded on sisi?
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 652	Posted - 2013.04.08 15:16:00 - [127] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: It's all been turned into FW space. FW space has expanded on sisi? Yes. I can't remember the systems off the top of my head, but when I was first bopping around I went to some lowsec systems that are marked as non-FW on Dotlan, but were FW on Sisi. I had this "EUREKA!" moment when I found them and then I realized that they had the FW panels in the HUD. So after that, I had to be careful to look for the FW panel to make sure I hadn't blundered into an expanded FW system.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 3013	Posted - 2013.04.08 15:41:00 - [128] - Quote Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: It's all been turned into FW space. FW space has expanded on sisi? Yes. I can't remember the systems off the top of my head, but when I was first bopping around I went to some lowsec systems that are marked as non-FW on Dotlan, but were FW on Sisi. I had this "EUREKA!" moment when I found them and then I realized that they had the FW panels in the HUD. So after that, I had to be careful to look for the FW panel to make sure I hadn't blundered into an expanded FW system. Can you give more details on this please...

Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors O.M.N.I. Initiative 334	Posted - 2013.04.08 16:12:00 - [129] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: It's all been turned into FW space. FW space has expanded on sisi? Yes. I can't remember the systems off the top of my head, but when I was first bopping around I went to some lowsec systems that are marked as non-FW on Dotlan, but were FW on Sisi. I had this "EUREKA!" moment when I found them and then I realized that they had the FW panels in the HUD. So after that, I had to be careful to look for the FW panel to make sure I hadn't blundered into an expanded FW system. Can you give more details on this please... If this is true i suggested that it might happen first!
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 656	Posted - 2013.04.08 16:20:00 - [130] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: FW space has expanded on sisi? Yes. I can't remember the systems off the top of my head, but when I was first bopping around I went to some lowsec systems that are marked as non-FW on Dotlan, but were FW on Sisi. Can you give more details on this please... I will try to remember. I'm a bit loath to recreate my several hundred system romp from yesterday to retrace my steps. Honestly, it's entirely possible that I just got confused by the way that Dotlan shows FW. I don't really know the layout of Minmatar space well, so things that look non-FW on a map might be on TQ (and Sisi). Edit: I did a quick bop into Minnie space to try and remember. What're those 36 mercs in Amo doing there? It's a 0.5, so it's not FW. Oh, it was just an instant. They told me in Local.

Rubico BetaMax. CRONOS. 5	Posted - 2013.04.08 22:24:00 - [131] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I was actually, and I know this coming from me is hard to believe, responding honestly to Rubico. I would like to know why he thinks it is a "Tyrannis" level screw up and I was honest, it takes us no effort to change the region. It was hyperbole, Tyrannis was much worse. 1. A few weeks before Tyrannis, devs listed the production tree and production ratios for PI including the various trade goods that at that time were still being sold by NPCs at an infinite quantity on Tranquility. The price for these trade goods on market was extremely low compared to the effort cost of producing them on planets. Players obviously stockpiled these during the runup to the patch. This has resulted in some of the goods being worthless to extract or manufacture on planets due to the depressed price. Three years later the market has still yet to recover on some items, planetary vehicles and guidance systems being examples. 2. After Tyrannis the NPC sell orders for structures were left up in order to allow the PI market to stabilize before they took on the brunt of production of these goods. Players figured out that you can reprocess these NPC sold goods, then use their components to build other structures (like stations) at a vastly reduced cost. Players bought, reprocessed, and built outposts like mad and this resulted in a large proliferation of stations in 0.0. If it is Molden Heath it will give those who have done their homework a head start at figuring out and securing the best possible planets. The problem with this is that If a large coordinated alliance can figure out these advantageous planets they can drop genolution packs on every district within that stronghold 30 seconds after the server comes up preventing anyone else from doing the same, and with the cost of genolution packs at 80m now it might be prohibitive to kick them out with them.
Daalzebul Del'Armgo D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.10 17:42:00 - [132] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Rubico wrote: It really is Molden Heath and the DUST devs pulled a Tyrannis level screw up. Why would this be a "Tyrannis" level screw up? Because the secret was leaked or because Molden Heath is a terrible region to do it in? Rubico wrote: The devs are trolling us and knew people would look on Sisi, they are testing it in Molden Heath but it will change to another region on release. On that day the tears will blot out the sun. The fun thing about districts, changing which region is active is awesome easy. Takes one line to make active or deactive a region. Great for testing. Changing which region is active is awesome easy eh? A friend of mine say's this about it. "Yes, I'm aware that it's "Super easy" to change which region is active ... but all the other regions with Districts are Faction Warfare (on sisi, not TQ) so in order to switch the PC Region they would have to Build Districts (not super easy) in another Non FW Region before they made the switch." basicly claiming you have not even bothered to build the districts anywhere else? hurm i wonder.....
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 675	Posted - 2013.04.11 03:31:00 - [133] - Quote Daalzebul Del'Armgo wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: The fun thing about districts, changing which region is active is awesome easy. Takes one line to make active or deactive a region. Great for testing. Changing which region is active is awesome easy eh? A friend of mine say's this about it. "Yes, I'm aware that it's "Super easy" to change which region is active ... but all the other regions with Districts are Faction Warfare (on sisi, not TQ) so in order to switch the PC Region they would have to Build Districts (not super easy) in another Non FW Region before they made the switch." basicly claiming you have not even bothered to build the districts anywhere else? hurm i wonder..... CCP_FoxFour's damage control aside, they probably do have an internal map for the districts in other regions. CCP seems to like procedurally generating the universe, so it's not hard for them to spit out the settings for all if the districts in the game and then set a Boolean operator to "off" by default. Then it is literally a matter of just telling the server to turn that single bit on or off. There are other regions that could work, it would probably just mess with their testing plans as Molden Heath was probably selected based on a whole set of criteria.
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 276	Posted - 2013.04.25 18:48:00 - [134] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Rubico wrote: It really is Molden Heath and the DUST devs pulled a Tyrannis level screw up. Why would this be a "Tyrannis" level screw up? Because the secret was leaked or because Molden Heath is a terrible region to do it in? Rubico wrote: The devs are trolling us and knew people would look on Sisi, they are testing it in Molden Heath but it will change to another region on release. On that day the tears will blot out the sun. The fun thing about districts, changing which region is active is awesome easy. Takes one line to make active or deactive a region. Great for testing. I donGÇÖt mind running my analysis again and finding the best choice for a training planet in another region, as long as you announce the correct region a cupel days in advance. Not announcing the region until it goes live so that we have no time to plan would be a real **** move. Besides, what does it hurt to let the community do some theorocrafting for a few weeks before the expansion. People want time to figure out and plan for what they do on day one of planetary conquest. Just make the official announcement and stop leaving us hanging.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 728	Posted - 2013.04.26 00:36:00 - [135] - Quote Dust 514 Keynote, 43:50 mark: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2204060 It's Molden Heath. No mention of me, though.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1250	Posted - 2013.04.26 00:48:00 - [136] - Quote Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Dust 514 Keynote, 43:50 mark: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2204060 It's Molden Heath. No mention of me, though. we all know the truth, congrats.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 975	Posted - 2013.04.26 03:31:00 - [137] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: HA! My theory of it being in Jove space still holds up! After the recent news....


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