Wait where are these magic high damage free milita fitting guns you speak of the ones I see are a bit pants also I am saddened to note my request for footage of these AV swarms and solo AV rambo's appear to have been ignored please could you rectify this it would strengthen your argument considerably.

remove free vehicles.

So you have solo'd many adv tanks with only milita AV fittings no help from anyone else obviously otherwise its not exactly solo. I am impressed sir you must be a very good player to casually off adv tanks on your own would you mind showing me a video of this amazing achievement so I may attempt to emulate your greatness?

Does EVE players get their Dreadnoughts destroyed by rookie ships due to rookie ships having civillian guns that deal more damage than a meta 4 railgun?

I don't think so.
Scrub.

Here your wish has been fullfilled. youtube.com/watch?v=2KNSdD8PYgY&feature=plcp
Btw know that tank costs around 1.5+mil ISK those guys are running MLT fits so he could kill them all day long without them ever losing a penny, kills don't matter , money does.

Edit:Beld Ermon STFU and keep driving your pubstomper , I use my tank to help my team out thus get it blown up.

And just to elaborate on my previous post about proto av stuff Mr.Gusk. the point is, you going to sit here and whine about getting owned by cheap av stuff, and your STILL going to be here whining when you lose your 1.5 mil tank to a 25-50k isk av nade...because like most other whiners on here, nothing ccp does for YOU will ever be enough. They will remove free av options, and you will cry that ex 11s wirykomi and lai dais are OP.

So far CCP have listened to the whiners and made tanks super weak and easy to destroy while buffing AV

Watch the video the other guy posted that tank stood up to allot of abuse infact go on youtube type in dust 514 tank and I bet you there are an awful lot more videos of guys in HAV's getting huge killstreaks than there are of lone AV rambo's getting tank kills or even just less tank destruction at all really.

And just to elaborate on my previous post about proto av stuff Mr.Gusk. the point is, you going to sit here and whine about getting owned by cheap av stuff, and your STILL going to be here whining when you lose your 1.5 mil tank to a 25-50k isk av nade...because like most other whiners on here, nothing ccp does for YOU will ever be enough. They will remove free av options, and you will cry that ex 11s wirykomi and lai dais are OP.

That will not happen if someone spends time and money to get them i will not hate on them:D

BTW tanks have been nerfed more than your puny Dropsuits ever did so it's people like you who whine about not being able to fit proper AV did this to tanks.

Edit:Beld Ermon STFU and keep driving your pubstomper , I use my tank to help my team out thus get it blown up.

You cannot ignore that tanks are weaker than previous builds and that AV got more buffs in the last builds, the whole balance is out of whack

You cannot ignore that tanks are weaker than previous builds and that AV got more buffs in the last builds, the whole balance is out of whack

and in previous builds, tanks were basically god-mode. you got used to that, and now that the other guys stand a chance you don't wanna play anymore.

Used to be god mode

Now the turrets got nerfed, mods removed, the tanks themselves got changed, even tank battles are barely 10sec long and AV is just too easy for no SP or ISK investment while being powerful or more powerful than a vehicle mounted turret and sticky AV nades so that you never miss and missiles that bend around your cover still (not as much but they still do)

When the tanks used to be god mode it did require a 4man advanced AV team to take out the advanced tank, problem was no one wanted to skill up AV and work together instead they wanted to fire an AR and kill it that way

Now you can take out an advanced tank with 2 ppl or 1 if you really know what your doing, this build it has never been easier to kill a tank

That will not happen if someone spends time and money to get them i will not hate on them:D

BTW tanks have been nerfed more than your puny Dropsuits ever did so it's people like you who whine about not being able to fit proper AV did this to tanks.

I agree tanks are weaker than before and AV got a buff but not to the point where you bring out a tank and one random merc in a starter fit will destroy it everytime before it so much as twitches most tanks fall to teamwork which of course is also free but you cant nerf that.

Yes tanks are expensive so yes its high risk but if you play well with it have the proper support and aren't unlucky enough to run into a whole squad of proto AVers it is also high reward same as all other methods.

High level heavies High risk but if done well and well supported can be high reward.

High level logi's same as above

High level Assault same as above

High level snipers well lets ignore those for now.

But my point is valid High reward needs to be balanced with high risk yes tanks have the highest risk due to pricing (maybe baring dropships not sure on vehicle prices.) but they also have the highest reward as a good tank is anti-infantry, anti-LAV, and can even stand up to other tanks and instalations.

What would you like 1 guy on opposite team brings out a HAV and all players on other team must go proto AV to stand a chance against it? Its balanced now very rarely will a tank fall to less than a squad (barring idiocy on part of driver or RDV.)

and yet if you have a tank driver who has even the most remote idea of what he/she is doing, that one person will be effectively shut down through cover or simply being killed over and over. I'm not even counting the gunners in this scenario, they could be bluedots trying to figure out why they aren't driving for all it matters here.

But advanced require at least 2mil SP so by your logic 2mil+=2mil+

Fact is milita is ther because the scrubs cried for it, they were unwilling to work as a team, HAVs got big nerfs to every part of the tank and AV got buffed so now everyone can have a milita AV fit and solo an advanced tank if they wish

You can get shutdown in cover by one person, ive done it pin em down then call in an OB to do the job