DUST Search - Trolling, Sexual Harassment, and CCP

Ares Lawrens wrote:

King Kobrah wrote:

Dregan808 Sintori wrote:

King Kobrah wrote:

How about instead of being an immature child and demanding lifetime bans because of words on the internet from people you'll never meet, you use the MUTE function and continue to play? There's no excuse for not just muting them and moving on like an adult. HTFU

An immature child? Mute button? Mute didn't stop them from standing in front of her the entire game preventing her from shooting, it didn't stop them from standing around her shooting towards enemies long enough to get there attention so they would shoot her. Mute only stops part of the problem. Where you think this magical mute button is going to work is beyond me and exceptionally ignorant. Also to so openly and ignorantly claiming the uselessness of "words on the internet" shows your complete lack of information on how serious of a problem it is. I am making a post because my friends play this game to relieve stress of college, work, and military. These players aren't helping.

It's not against the rules to shoot at your teammates and stand infront of them as they shoot, you little baby *****. Blueberries do that to me every single game, and you don't see me demanding a lifetime ban. It's not a problem. Just because you have a vagina doesn't give you special treatment and earn men lifetime bans for an issue you can solve with one button press. if you can't handle words on the internet, I've got some very bad news for you in regards to the real world...HTFU

I agree Dust is in open beta now so youll have people from games like black ops 2 and BF3 transitioning over. If it was that serious you could have left the match, this is'nt 360 where people can follow you

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hermin hermit Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:36:00 - [91] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: If you are a straight white middle to upper class male you have no idea what discrimination really is. If you are a straight black middle to lower class male you have no idea what gainful employment is See what i did there? Sounds kinda stupid eh?
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 182	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:36:00 - [92] - Quote Ares Lawrens wrote: King Kobrah wrote: Dregan808 Sintori wrote: King Kobrah wrote: How about instead of being an immature child and demanding lifetime bans because of words on the internet from people you'll never meet, you use the MUTE function and continue to play? There's no excuse for not just muting them and moving on like an adult. HTFU An immature child? Mute button? Mute didn't stop them from standing in front of her the entire game preventing her from shooting, it didn't stop them from standing around her shooting towards enemies long enough to get there attention so they would shoot her. Mute only stops part of the problem. Where you think this magical mute button is going to work is beyond me and exceptionally ignorant. Also to so openly and ignorantly claiming the uselessness of "words on the internet" shows your complete lack of information on how serious of a problem it is. I am making a post because my friends play this game to relieve stress of college, work, and military. These players aren't helping. It's not against the rules to shoot at your teammates and stand infront of them as they shoot, you little baby *****. Blueberries do that to me every single game, and you don't see me demanding a lifetime ban. It's not a problem. Just because you have a vagina doesn't give you special treatment and earn men lifetime bans for an issue you can solve with one button press. if you can't handle words on the internet, I've got some very bad news for you in regards to the real world...HTFU I agree Dust is in open beta now so youll have people from games like black ops 2 and BF3 transitioning over. If it was that serious you could have left the match, this is'nt 360 where people can follow you This ^ anyway you all have my opinion (which for future reference is that they were wrong in how they acted but it was trolling just the same no matter how horrible and they should receive punishment in the form of being out casted from social groups squads and corps, and she should learn that people on the internet are idiots and will always be. Leaving just lets them win, she will encounter the same behavior in any game she goes to. If ccp offers such services then report them if not move on
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 253	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:55:00 - [93] - Quote Dregan808 Sintori wrote: So I was playing a match today with one of my female friends. She sets up as a sniper/scouter for our squid and calls in information as we are moving. The match starts and two guys, "Lieutenant Arc Angel" and "I'm Wilson", start shooting her and generally messing with her. They won't leave her alone. They then join our squad and start insulting her and women in general. She finally gets mad enough and insulted enough to shut down the console and since then won't play Dust. This wasn't the first time this has happened. So we go online just to find that CCP has no was of reporting issues like this. I'm a time when this issue has become so big they do nothing. 343i life-bans players that sexually harass female players, what does CCP do? How do you even report these actions? Wait, this happened during one match? Verbal assaulting people on certain RL things is bad and should be reported and penalized. But what happens in one match... That's quite a short time to draw drastic conclusions. Shooting someone in one game, which doesn't have ff on is hardly a reason to ban.
Sgt Kirk ZionTCD Legacy Rising 417	Posted - 2013.03.11 03:01:00 - [94] - Quote hermin hermit wrote: Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: If you are a straight white middle to upper class male you have no idea what discrimination really is. If you are a straight black middle to lower class male you have no idea what gainful employment is See what i did there? Sounds kinda stupid eh? I'm a black male and I approve this message.
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 145	Posted - 2013.03.11 03:09:00 - [95] - Quote hermin hermit wrote: Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: If you are a straight white middle to upper class male you have no idea what discrimination really is. If you are a straight black middle to lower class male you have no idea what gainful employment is See what i did there? Sounds kinda stupid eh? Yes, it really, really does...
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1933	Posted - 2013.03.11 03:27:00 - [96] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: If you are a straight white middle to upper class male you have no idea what discrimination really is. Unless you've been through a particularly confused bi-curious phase in which you thought you were gay for a while, or you're a post-op formerly lesbian white female, or you grew up in the wrong part of town and have only recently made it into the middle class, or you've got that skin condition Michael Jackson had and you used to be black... Or you have a name that's easy for someone to mishear and think is a female name, or a soft enough voice that you often get called "ma'am" on the phone or in the drive thru, or if your primary online ID is one with "doll" as part of the name and people frequently take that to mean you're a girl. Or you have a girlfriend and you get to see and hear some of the discrimination that happens to her. Especially if you've ever dated someone outside of your own demographic (apart from the "male" part, obviously). There are plenty more possible ways someone in that demographic can be targets (usually incorrectly) for discrimination. You may not see it being directed at yourself quite as often, but you WILL see it occasionally. Then of course there's all the political correctness that gets taken way too far and your cousin ends up being bumped off the shortlist for a mechanic's apprenticeship for almost everything that ISN'T a straight, white, middle-class male because the people running the program are afraid of a potential lawsuit from someone with less relevant qualifications.
EKH0 0ne RestlessSpirits 1	Posted - 2013.03.11 03:43:00 - [97] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Dregan808 Sintori wrote: So I was playing a match today with one of my female friends. She sets up as a sniper/scouter for our squid and calls in information as we are moving. The match starts and two guys, "Lieutenant Arc Angel" and "I'm Wilson", start shooting her and generally messing with her. They won't leave her alone. They then join our squad and start insulting her and women in general. She finally gets mad enough and insulted enough to shut down the console and since then won't play Dust. This wasn't the first time this has happened. So we go online just to find that CCP has no was of reporting issues like this. I'm a time when this issue has become so big they do nothing. 343i life-bans players that sexually harass female players, what does CCP do? How do you even report these actions? Wait, this happened during one match? Verbal assaulting people on certain RL things is bad and should be reported and penalized. But what happens in one match... That's quite a short time to draw drastic conclusions. Shooting someone in one game, which doesn't have ff on is hardly a reason to ban. This^ Besides for all we know this guy is lying and it never happend. He could just be defaming some guys who kicked his butt in a game. We will never know exactly what they said, but lets not ban people without any proof. And god forbid your teammates ever shoot you in a game, I mean THAT is the only reason they should be banned. . Muted and the problem would've been solved.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1654	Posted - 2013.03.11 05:24:00 - [98] - Quote I'm taking note of their names. If I see them as enemies I will stab them for you many times over. If I see them as teammates, well... I give plenty of hugs with a cooked grenade.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 490	Posted - 2013.03.11 06:19:00 - [99] - Quote Aeryn Orpaul wrote: you are missing the point, its not because people trolled a female that people are making a stink, it is because people troller her because she was a female. this is the heart of the issue, it seems like a meaningless semantic but it is far from it. taking some one ** is some thing we all deal with and is part of how we interact, how ever taking ** because someone has singled you out due to the fact that you fall into to a set of people is not acceptable any where any time. What, how can you be sure? Seems obvious to me they did it because she was a sniper.
Ares Lawrens Phoenix Security Solutions 4	Posted - 2013.03.11 06:20:00 - [100] - Quote I agree Dust is in open beta now so youll have people from games like black ops 2 and BF3 transitioning over. If it was that serious you could have left the match, this is'nt 360 where people can follow you [/quote] This ^ anyway you all have my opinion (which for future reference is that they were wrong in how they acted but it was trolling just the same no matter how horrible and they should receive punishment in the form of being out casted from social groups squads and corps, and she should learn that people on the internet are idiots and will always be. Leaving just lets them win, she will encounter the same behavior in any game she goes to. If ccp offers such services then report them if not move on EDIT: i am leaving this thread as i have posted my opinion and have nothing further to say all that will follow this post is more hate because i have a different opinion on how this should be handled than the rest of you[/quote] I doubt they would be winning anything like I said these are people coming over from Black Ops 2 and BF3. Her entire way of playing the game was being affected if they stood in front of her and got her killed. I'm saying that she should have left for that reason alone, plus she turned off her system and refuses to play Dust so they have done more than just win. I also believe that it is ok to give any player be they male or female a good ribbing. I've seen guys block girls in the lobby (as wrong as it seems it looks a little funny)but thats as far as they've taken it, when they get in the game its all business so there can always be just a little good natured harassment without taking it too far.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1935	Posted - 2013.03.11 06:23:00 - [101] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Aeryn Orpaul wrote: you are missing the point, its not because people trolled a female that people are making a stink, it is because people troller her because she was a female. this is the heart of the issue, it seems like a meaningless semantic but it is far from it. taking some one ** is some thing we all deal with and is part of how we interact, how ever taking ** because someone has singled you out due to the fact that you fall into to a set of people is not acceptable any where any time. What, how can you be sure? Seems obvious to me they did it because she was a sniper. Based on this post, I'm going to make a point of asking all Snipers to make me sandwiches now. EDIT: Except my girlfriend, because she upstages sandwiches on a regular basis. And is scary with a bo staff. And I'm glad we share a PS3 so I never have to try and hunt her, because she's not an easy target for Shotgunners. Also, she hurt me already tonight, so I'd rather not get beaten up any more.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 200	Posted - 2013.03.11 06:45:00 - [102] - Quote The things I have read in this thread cannot be unseen...
Evil-Stuffed-Animal Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 9	Posted - 2013.03.11 07:02:00 - [103] - Quote GM Hercules wrote: You can report the players via petition system and please provide as much details as you can. Yeah, please provide as much detail as possible (including the various colors of Unicorns painted in your bedroom). Welcome to online gaming where flaming, trolling, racist remarks, and misogynist statements are as numerous and useless as the American penny. lulz
Repe Susi Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 287	Posted - 2013.03.11 07:18:00 - [104] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I'm taking note of their names. If I see them as enemies I will stab them for you many times over. If I see them as teammates, well... I give plenty of hugs with a cooked grenade. Yup. Same here. Gotta have some white knights also in this scum-filled den of tryhards and wannabes.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 53	Posted - 2013.03.11 07:47:00 - [105] - Quote THE POWER OF THE MUTE BUTTON!
Kosen Driago WarRavens 25	Posted - 2013.03.11 07:52:00 - [106] - Quote Why doesnt anyone ever try the simple s*t first for kittens sake. Mute, kick, join/play with clan ect. I mean really, thats what those things are there for and I've never read that somebody actually used them. Understand this- when people have anonimity, they WILL do absurd sh. At a certain point you (frustrated female gamers) are going to have to leearn how to just deal with it. I'ts just a video game, and every half a dozen or so times somebody starts talking sh** on the mic or runs their character into you repeatedly, don't just spam rage threads. You gotta do your part too. What ever that may be figure it out, its not like you girls are stupid, there are plenty of ways. People encounter all kinds of racism, sexism (I know not EVERY girl gamer has as many problems as others complain about), even classism and just about every other prejudice out there, yet millions upon millions of other people still manage to enjoy online play. Theres no reason female dustbunnies can't do that without getting ccp to do something drastic and probably unnecessary.
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 164	Posted - 2013.03.11 07:55:00 - [107] - Quote Evil-Stuffed-Animal wrote: GM Hercules wrote: You can report the players via petition system and please provide as much details as you can. Yeah, please provide as much detail as possible (including the various colors of Unicorns painted in your bedroom). Welcome to online gaming where flaming, trolling, racist remarks, and misogynist statements are as numerous and useless as the American penny. lulz Back in high school I did a project in AP Gov. where the main goal was to eliminate the penny altogether--it was actually really simple. Interesting bit of trivia: it costs more to make a penny than it's worth itself.
Dregan808 Sintori Imperial Dragoon Syndicate 20	Posted - 2013.03.11 09:21:00 - [108] - Quote It amazes me some of the interesting opinions a lot of people have had on this subject. Also the great amount of men that believe women should just take it, deal with it, or ignore it. What century do you live in? Since when should people not be held accountable and since when should anyone take something laying down? The internet is the way it is not because of the trolls and harassers, it's this way because people allow it. I posted this thread to shed light on a problem and to hopefully gain a portal to report players. Because I hope that when I engage an enemy he is a redberry and not someone on my own team. I don't need someone to take care of my squad. I've taken care of my squad in the military and I will take care of my friends now that I'm out. I've got that. But there are people out there that don't have a Dregan808, Geth Massredux, Parson Atreides, or any of these others that watch their backs. I bring this issue up because there isn't a place for them to report people harassing them. Insinuate ten people suffer depression, there isn't a HTFU for them. There is support. As a community we should give it to them. I lost three friends to enemy Engagements, I lost four to their own inner demons. I'm sorry if I take things like this more seriously than a select few, but just because you don't see a problem doesn't mean there isn't one.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 955	Posted - 2013.03.11 09:22:00 - [109] - Quote I am locking this thread as it has clearly run its course. The simple fact of the matter is that discrimination against a person based on their gender identity, sexual identity, race, religion, nationality, or anything like that is not allowed. Please report it immediately via [email protected] and include as many details as possible.



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