the irony of this thread.....

You are correct, it was a 2v1 vs. you and another red dot in the bowl map. I killed you, other guy killed me. Happy? Back on topic my brother from another mother.

Ya, agree on the hybrid model.

Have heard from.certain shotgunners that this spawn system really screws with them. Where they were once use to one or two people spawning, now they get a guy spawning and then it is their whole team.

My KDR has never been so low... jk, I had it 0.70 for like 3 weeks.
But yeah, I can barely go 1 for 1 in a match now. You kill one guy and their whole team comes after you! Stopped using stotguns two, it was nothing but deaths

On the bright side... my grenade skills have really improved

1. This game was never meant to be a 1v1 game, its whole concept and play style and advancement indicates a team based/blob mentality. Building a char to 1v1 is very much a shortsighted strategy and the whole spawn system in the old ambush (that I benefited greatly from) just led to a series of easy kills and extremely short high intensity 1v1s and 2v1's and where a good squad working together would easily clean up the map in circles. Now things require more coordinated fire and working together in squads to get things done.

2. The weapons have range for a reason, start using the range on them and focus less on getting in close for the old grenade shooting cqc.

Addressing 2 first:

2-Ton, all HMGs that level sharpshooter up now can shoot across the map, thats broken, needs to be fixed. Gotta love those HMGs that camp on top of buildings now. I don't use grenades much, I'm AR specifically, if you played the game, you'd know.


1. This game's spawn system on both modes has been the same for the past 10 months. Then all of a sudden it changes to blob spawns. All I am asking is for them to come up with a mix between the two. The first spawn in establishes squad mentality. After that, it is up to team/squad to be on the same page to win. Why reduce it to forced mass spawns?

What if all my teammates are camped and I don't want to spawn with them? The game doesn't give me a random choice anymore, it spawns me where it "thinks" is most appropriate, which is usually by my teammates.

The last two sentences you typed in your first point contradict each other, I would re-read them and come up with something else to debate your point.

This game was never meant to be a 1v1 game, its whole concept and play style and advancement indicates a team based/blob mentality. Building a char to 1v1 is very much a shortsighted strategy and the whole spawn system in the old ambush (that I benefited greatly from) just led to a series of easy kills and extremely short high intensity 1v1s and 2v1's and where a good squad working together would easily clean up the map in circles. Now things require more coordinated fire and working together in squads to get things done.

Gota say, I never thought I would see the day when someone complained about "blobs" in a FPS setting.

I also never thought I would see the day when someone complained about the lack of 1v1 in a FPS setting. This isn't exactly knightly combat, brosaf.

I like the new system because it promotes team play and leads to some excellent firefights, but as others have said if your team gets trapped you all get spawned into a shitload of fire, it also makes breakouts difficult because you get the entire enemy team surrounding you. The one thing i really liked about the old system was how it could spawn you into a position where if you were smart you could turn the enemy's flank and keep the game mobile. and these days OB's are just a kill entire enemy team button.

the irony of this thread.....

I like the new spawn system better. I find ample 1v1 situations and if you are able to sneak past the front line then you break open their wall.

The mob style team firing is more entertaining for me. Only thing i really dislike is if a mob really gets rolling it can be hard to stop.

in manus peak an OB should be renamed to "Kill the entire enemy team" or "Get easy 8 kills".