Just so i get this right:
The OP is mourning over people using team tactics in a team-based shooter? Blimey.

By addressing the spawn system, it will create whatever players desire. As it is now, it forces a certain type of gameplay.

This is definitely a squad based shooter, I totally agree with that. And it is one of the things I like about it the most. The game mode this should be most evident in is skirmish.

Let's just say for instance they fixed the spawn system as I suggested. Would it ruin team or squad based play? Not at all, it would make it more communication based.

Example: I get killed, my squad is at D, I am a B on the plateaus map. We communicate this and try to hook up quickly. The problem being there are 2 open areas between us. I have to fight my way to them and they to me.


With this old spawn system, I will usually spawn around the largest mass of blue/green dots. There is no working toward a reunion and I have no "say" in the matter unless someone has dropped an uplink.

Old system would randomly place me on the map, communication betwen squad members was required to come together.
New system we all spawn around each other regardless of whether we are being camped or not.


I do understand what alot of you are saying about the current system. And as I said, the very first spawn in is great.

I just think all the spawn ins after should be randomized around the map. This would require you to communicate and think about best path to your squad.

And also create some solo gameplay that is entirely lacking atm.


There is a happy medium between these two systems, just hope CCP can find it.

I just think all the spawn ins after should be randomized around the map. This would require you to communicate and think about best path to your squad.
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There is a happy medium between these two systems, just hope CCP can find it.

And also create some solo gameplay that is entirely lacking atm.

The things the new spawns buffed because of the new play style

HMGs
Mass drivers
Lasers
Snipers
All AV

All people who have specd into those categories are happy with the new spawns.

I would prefer the hybrid idea

It's important to remember that the focus of this game will soon shift to larger scale battles between corporations. This spawn system will make a lot more since in FW when you are going into battles with 23 corp mates.

I would strike HMG from that list personally. I did better under the old spawn system. that might just be how i play heavy though. this way i have 4 lasers mowing me down whenever i try to advance across the death valley.

and you forgot ARs with SS do benefit from this as well

You could also title this the "Death of Squads in Ambush"

It's not just the death of the small fights you and I like but also just the concept of the squad.

Everyone on the entire team spawns in one blob and runs for the blob on the other side.

Players are learning nothing at all from this.

This has no application for corp battles.

This has no application for other game types.

They don't learn good weapon use, as they just point in the right general direction with other blueberries. They have no clue how successful their pointing was other then random kills they get from randomly putting the last bullet in someone.

You want to play 1v1 in a multiplier shooter....

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First spawn is awesome for team and squads to use Drop Up Links...after that the spawn camping vs noobs is rough...but noobs can use DU's too. They may patch and improve. No one can deny it is better then the "firing squad" system that was. So thanks for the improvement.

I deny it is better.

Its much worse for the reasons I cited. Newbs are learning nothing about being part of a squad or how to shoot.

Enlarge the maps, add spawn points and revert to the old random system.

People won't get camped, they'll be forced to talk to their squads and join up with them.