This is probably posted somewhere, but are any more wipes intended in the foreseeable future?

This is probably posted somewhere, but are any more wipes intended in the foreseeable future?

So much anger in this thread...

Well, you guys convinced me. I quit, I'll see you all again (Once/If) the game (Beta) ever gets good.

Which should be...SoonTM.

I think its very legitimate to question CCPs ability to deliver this game.

The current pace of innovation and feature deployment (vs pieinthesky dreams about what this game might do) is really really slow.

Good Hunting see you on the flip side, remember we're always free to join back up and passive sp unspent pool will be waiting for you when you get back so at least don't delete your characters.

@ Iron Wolf

What are you trying to do here I'am all for people discussing openly about this subject. However, you have said the same thing ten times in different ways. It is helping no one and can arguably be considered SPAM.

Furthermore, in your argument against me you use the examples that BF3 and COD have long update times. Firstly, time as never been a issue. All I said is that if their builds are like the past, then its going to be very discouraging waiting 3-6 months for something new. Secondly, your right BF3 do release their updates late about 3-5 months. However, DICE has proven that each update it worth the wait. Whereas, CCP has proven nothing. Their updates usually consist of couple new things, and half of them are broken. Lastly, was it not you said we cannot compare DUST to a finished game, yet here you're comparing.

Sense I'am here Iron Wolf, Lets talk about you. Your the type of player who would rather sit on the sidelines holding a sign saying, "I <3 CCP No Matter What", then actually play the game. In my opinion, your feedback is worthless, unneeded, and ultimately hurts more then helps. Your the type that ruin games. The type that would rather blindly follow, even if it was over a cliff. I would rather have one person who respectfully challenges and pushes the Devs then then a hundred Iron Wolfs.

Now now, before someone starts spamming that little Flag. Let me just show you what facts and points, that have lead up to this conclusion of Iron Wolf:

1.) Iron Wolf Saber Total Kill sense last reset [1857]
It has almost been two months sense the last update, and you telling me you have less the 2000 kills.You have more likes then kills! Its ironic, because it looks like you stopped playing.... a long time ago. Your telling Vets how they should think when it comes to Dust, yet you don't even play it. The Vets our dealing with the now, well you lurk on IRC for a pat on the back.

2.) You Solo????


Your a solo player in a team game. This only further proves how little you know about the game. This game is designed around the squad. It is possible to solo play, but why would you. You're play the most simplistic part of Dust, which is a solo player in Pub-matches. However, once again you know more then the Vets that Corp battle and Specialize their squads to be more effective.

3.) You hardly Corp Battle

Recon on Fire proved that. Tell me the last time you corp battle a real corp this reset. CB's is the future of DUST, yet have you ever experienced more then 10??? Talk about the great schemes of CCP, yet your not here in the game testing the platform for Fraction War.

In sum, you hardly play anymore. When you do play, it is by yourself. My problem is that you make it seem like you understand all our problems and have experienced them yourself. That cannot be farther from the truth. Your not a vet. Your casual solo player who blindly follows the word of CCP. In my opinion, your words hold no shard of credibility and are, in reality, words of another new player who does really understand the game.

Next time you want to talk with the big boys. I suggest you stop lurking in IRC, and play the damn Game.

I'll be back, I doubted their ability when EvE first started too, and now look at it. I'm sure they'll do this right but one can only hope.

Not sure what to say - on both sides really, 3-6 months is a long time for FPS players as they are not used to the MMO aspects of updates, at the same time, CCP needs time to develop :)

there's only one way to solve this.... FIGHT TO THE DEATH.

So you claim to represent the low skill low sp point of veiw in dust? Fair enough then I'll let you have that. As for my tone please take as me laughing at you, not with you. I am embarrassed for you and that fact that you have to defend your CCP fanboi every time you post. You can't even constructively discuss anything that doesn't paint ccp in a good light. I have no problem saying when CCP is awesome and when they fail. It's never personal as I'd still buy them a few beers if I could.

All fps games if done properly are scaled to skill and balance at the top, not the bottom. This game will fail if ccp says "we should listen to the casual scrub player who would rather do pve then pvp. That will make dust better." When you play at the limits of the game you see things differently and how they impact play. dust has to balance gear and vehicles for corp battles not public play. Why? Thats the part of dust that matters. Thats where we interact with EvE.

I am part of a club, but its one for people that are honest regarding the current state of dust. Its a big club too.

The need for such a lengthy self explanation is ridiculous. I have IRL stuff too. Stop using it as a crutch. There are many major things wrong with this game. Please stop defending the lack of communication between CCP and its community on any real plans.

There are too many excuses and not enough results. We don't demand the herculean here, just that CCP interacts with us and is willing to take the idiocy of a few people who get butt hurt that a deadline isn't met. If they were just open with us it would be 10x better. What other dev promises features but then doesn't attempt to explain them in the least, especially during alpha where feedback is huge?

The game needs more frequent and substantial updates, and thats in terms of communications as well as content.

Now you see? THAT is an (almost) completely constructive post, and one that should be put up as a new thread. Bickering here among ourselves isn't helping, but this post could be a GREAT thread. It could even be the start for a series of threads.

The first thread could be all about why we should balance the game towards corp battles and how to adjust pub matches to cope with the changes made towards this end.

Then you could follow with a series of threads about specific things and how they could be better changed to be properly balanced for corp battles. Tanks, missiles, dropsuits, weapons, passive skill scaling, the works.

You have it in you Beers, you've done this plenty in the past. Your trolling instincts just get in the way sometimes. Why don't you start the series, and we can all congregate there to discuss fixing this thing instead of wasting time with all of this back and forth bickering? I know you want this game to succeed, otherwise you wouldn't attack it so harshly when it goes off course. I'll join you there in that thread to harass you the whole way through if you like.

1 Asks a pointed question, makes destructive statement.
2 Insults, attempts shame but its an insult.
3 Another personal attack, a baseless accusation
4 fails to see the point of all my posting which means he has a stereotype complex.
5 A totally useless oxymoron lack of sentiment statement.
6 Also a likely lie if they ever met in a professional environment.

1 Makes another baseless fact the number of shooter games with top to bottom balancing is few and far between. Also just further concretes the evidence that he doesn't care as much about newer player experiences/frustations and not believing any encouragement to make it seem possible to get to the 'top.'
2 Makes an ignorant statement on how ccp decides features. Also doesnt seem to understand how ccp is planning pve.
3 States that End game is the only game.
4 Also thinks the game needs to hinge on a feature that was brought in as a last-thought mostly test bed for up and coming center piece FW fights in which Conquest mode will be based off of.
5 Makes an arrogant statement on how the game should run from his point of view, discounting meta, market, territory, wars, and numerous other features that would improve the game far more than just corp battle+

Yeah I agree its sounds really constructive

no one says you have to grind sp

I think its very legitimate to question CCPs ability to deliver this game.

The current pace of innovation and feature deployment (vs pieinthesky dreams about what this game might do) is really really slow.

The fanbois are not helping ccp figure this out sooner rather then later.

and it's going to come out looking like Sloth.