Its offical you should never post again fanboi. COD is epic from day one. Dust has been nothing but trash over the last year. the rate of improvement is a joke. The content and game play is nothing more then tragic.

If dust isn't an entirely new game and fast there wont be any left in dust but goons

I hope you realize that the other 99.9% percent of us want real game to play. You treat dust like an academic exercise to further your college education. You being a CCP loving fanboi spends more time worrying about iteriation 5 of the cpm0 circle jerk then you do about playing the game. Stop making excuses for ccp.

If I am paying for a game it has to be more then the **** the ccp has given us now. If my aurum was refundable they I would go back to being optimistic. Since ccp has our money now they seem to have little incentive to deliver. 7 weeks on TQ and nothing new and almost 3 months since last crap build that barely fixed anything, worse maps, no new content.

Trust me if the next build is **** Ill be banned in short order. To many good games coming out to waste any more time or money on this.

You're wrong.

It's not a beta, "most" companies dont take peoples money in a beta. If it was a beta, they would refund our aurum on release and reset the SP (which they said they would do until it was "changed"). The program is available to everyone to download, there will not be ANY SP resets, sure sounds like a soft release to me.

If i'm not mistaken the closed beta testers made multiple threads and attempts on irc to let CCP know this game was not ready for open beta. Think I'm wrong? Look at all the "is this it?", "Cant take much more", "wheres the content" posts that multiple open beta testers have been posting.

Doesn't matter what you say Ironwolf you will always defend CCP. I would like to know what it will take to open your eyes to the fact your company is letting you down. Even NOVA posted about the turtle's pace of content release and I thought he was CCPs no.1 fan... apparently he is no.2.

Consumers/Fans are ultimately the ones that decide if the game is a beta or retail. Companies can say their product is a beta until they are blue in the face just to cover up the lack of progress.

Ive been in this thing for a year, I've seen the snail's pace of development. I've seen the over nerfs/under nerfs/lack of nerfs and the non-extistent content patches. The game is addictive, otherwise I wouldnt have played it for this long, but when is the lack of progress enough?

Making excuses for the pace of development is ridiculous, CCP is a well known company and until previously a highly regarded developer. Gamers all have a touch of ADD, if this game doesnt improve quickly that ADD is going to kick in and they will lose alot of their fan base to the new and shiny game. Destiny, Defiance, whatever the game is it would hold more hope than what I've seen this past year.

Don't see the point of debating this any further, sorry to derail thread Reg. Back to you.

What works in the PC market doesn't always translate well in the console market. That is what CCP is failing to realize. Like CCP failing to realize that console gamers view betas as demos. I've said this many times. I personally have friends that tried DUST, and one of them is a huge FPS fan.

Dude tried it for 2 days, said it was garbage, and moved on. The game wasn't ready for OB, cuz like i said above, beta = demo for console gamers.

PC Market =/= Console market

^ CCP needs to understand this

Agreed. Let's also not forget halo has some bugs that are apparent in multiplayer that should have been fixed almost a decade ago yet they are still there. How often do you see your Ghost get glitch-propelled out of the map and see your body fly off into the netherworld? What about seeing your corpse dance like a zombie?

CoD is priced cheaper! Assuming you only buy a merc pack every month, and you buy CoD with "Elite" or "Season Pass", you actually spent more on DUST. A LOT more in fact.

My prediction is catastrophic let down. I'm basing my opinion on the releases of the past year and yours is based on dreams.

Non paying customers are content for the paying customers. Welcome to the F2P business model.

BF is also a full, stable release. Sorry, couldn't help it.

DUST is released. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Talk is cheap and frankly that's all i heard about this game pretty much. Ive done my best to put on my best face for the escapist feed but you can hear it in there voices that the impression this game is giving is weak.


Now that said this is make or break for the current player population, maybe not the game but definitely this player population.

That said this base is the primary PSN community of fpser and live streams and content producers. If they go this game will likely hobble on along with a revolving door of 1-2 week cycle new players and thats about it.

So here this works now, 4.2.13 is the release date of Defiance, a game that former CCP devs have worked on. I've seen gameplay from a PC friend during beta test, i can tell you it plays well. Its not graphically astonishing by any means but compared to Dust in its current form its better. The game will attract a lot of players just because of the idea that it will influence a tv show and the show will influence the game.

It has both PVP and PVE and coop and MMO all ready to go. It has XP boosters that you can get in special editions which suggest you can buy those in market. Additionally it has DLC slated to come this year to expand the content.

All this will be out 4.2.13. So if this next build isn't "game" changing you will see a lot migrate over to that while they wait on GTA V, Last of Us, and a host of other games "cough" Destiny "cough" to keep us busy.

Yes maybe Dust will survive without us but you will never have the FPS talent to do the things EVE pilots really want us to do soooo.

Balls in your court CCP... now get err done or face the possibility of some very unhappy investors(I mean the corporate ones, not us).

60 FPS
customizable guns
better hit detection than DUST
recoil
solid SP experience
timely patches
DLC
League play
FFA
fairly balanced match making
split screen
CO-OP
customization
file share

IWS reallly dude stop running PR damage control. Yea they werent outright verbalizing their displeasure but you must not understand vocal tonality because you could hear it every now and again. The fact that so much has to be explained has got them a bit frustrated.

I will give you this they like many others skip the tutorials i am definitely going to tell them to spend a bit of time streaming that since its helpful.

But really this just sad, i get you're eager defense of Dust but its getting a bit desperate no?

I'm not an eve player and I'm not giving anymore money to this dev until I see something meaningful on the ps3. That's great eve players have a meaningful game but we don't even have the structure for one here on ps3 yet

Not this again.

Yes, we've actually operated on a 3 months per build the past couple builds, so the number is accurate. HOWEVER(!!! important !!!) a new build is not the same as new content, as CCP can push data to the client, even update parts of the python code, between builds.

E.g. game modes, items, maps, sounds, textures, menu items, etc, can all be updated at any time.

Um, haven't people been saying this for the entire length of the beta?

From my personal experience:
I'm playing for the cap every week and that's it... Not going to buy more Merc packs until I really see some new stuff...
GAGAH, Maurus and Z mile: Brazilian guys and my friends all left the game because of the lack of updates...
Why I still play? The idea behind all this game is AMAZING!
But I must admit, the game needs LOTS of work and I'm afraid that the DEV team isn't big enough to make all the changes needed (They are making some miracles tbh....) .

Today the released a new video for dropsuit and I said to myself "Get ready to see the new dropsuits here :D" Then after I saw, what a let down.......... The same stuff repeated over and over again!
I want drones, I want my Amarrian Dropsuit, I want battles for my own land, I want MOARRRRR!!!!
Meanwhile I will play GoW Ascencion, and if this game don't update, gonna play Defiance ...

I understand, still had a huge disappointment... I was really hoping to see more info on the new dropsuits in the video...

lolblogs
those are awesome for gettin expecatations up
yall remember those other awesome blogs that explained wonderful things? what ever happened to those.................

I think Regnum said it better than I ever could Ironwolf...
And for those that need a summary in video of Ironwolfs past posts... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

The gist of every complaint about the lack of updates ever.

You can't test beta unless you play beta. I've seen you play and you are so bad your not good enough to be called a scrub. Unless you are giving game feedback from a bad players point of veiw I don't get what real contributions you make to the game. Well, except free kills to the other team

Lets talk team work.

I'm a logi with more then 4k kills, 5kdr, 4+ w/l ratio, and lots of war points. I also will squad with anyone and I am not an squad elitiest (I do die a lot and swear about it). I think I proved Regnums point just fine.

If someone wants to have a constructive discussion about combat mechanics would they pick me or you? I would win by default because you would be to busy theory crafting in the irc circle jerk channel instead of playing the damn game.

So you claim to represent the low skill low sp point of veiw in dust? Fair enough then I'll let you have that. As for my tone please take as me laughing at you, not with you. I am embarrassed for you and that fact that you have to defend your CCP fanboi every time you post. You can't even constructively discuss anything that doesn't paint ccp in a good light. I have no problem saying when CCP is awesome and when they fail. It's never personal as I'd still buy them a few beers if I could.

All fps games if done properly are scaled to skill and balance at the top, not the bottom. This game will fail if ccp says "we should listen to the casual scrub player who would rather do pve then pvp. That will make dust better." When you play at the limits of the game you see things differently and how they impact play. dust has to balance gear and vehicles for corp battles not public play. Why? Thats the part of dust that matters. Thats where we interact with EvE.

I am part of a club, but its one for people that are honest regarding the current state of dust. Its a big club too.

This is probably posted somewhere, but are any more wipes intended in the foreseeable future?

So much anger in this thread...

Well, you guys convinced me. I quit, I'll see you all again (Once/If) the game (Beta) ever gets good.

Which should be...SoonTM.

I think its very legitimate to question CCPs ability to deliver this game.

The current pace of innovation and feature deployment (vs pieinthesky dreams about what this game might do) is really really slow.

I'll be back, I doubted their ability when EvE first started too, and now look at it. I'm sure they'll do this right but one can only hope.

The need for such a lengthy self explanation is ridiculous. I have IRL stuff too. Stop using it as a crutch. There are many major things wrong with this game. Please stop defending the lack of communication between CCP and its community on any real plans.

There are too many excuses and not enough results. We don't demand the herculean here, just that CCP interacts with us and is willing to take the idiocy of a few people who get butt hurt that a deadline isn't met. If they were just open with us it would be 10x better. What other dev promises features but then doesn't attempt to explain them in the least, especially during alpha where feedback is huge?

The game needs more frequent and substantial updates, and thats in terms of communications as well as content.

Now you see? THAT is an (almost) completely constructive post, and one that should be put up as a new thread. Bickering here among ourselves isn't helping, but this post could be a GREAT thread. It could even be the start for a series of threads.

The first thread could be all about why we should balance the game towards corp battles and how to adjust pub matches to cope with the changes made towards this end.

Then you could follow with a series of threads about specific things and how they could be better changed to be properly balanced for corp battles. Tanks, missiles, dropsuits, weapons, passive skill scaling, the works.

You have it in you Beers, you've done this plenty in the past. Your trolling instincts just get in the way sometimes. Why don't you start the series, and we can all congregate there to discuss fixing this thing instead of wasting time with all of this back and forth bickering? I know you want this game to succeed, otherwise you wouldn't attack it so harshly when it goes off course. I'll join you there in that thread to harass you the whole way through if you like.