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Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 307	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:59:00 - [31] - Quote RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Instead of 50% bonus to cap and rate of gain it's 100%? Where is the math difficulty?

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 141	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:04:00 - [32] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Instead of 50% bonus to cap and rate of gain it's 100%? Where is the math difficulty? Because if I have an active booster now and apply it... when will I start getting 100%? If it starts right away + adds time - then I'll just apply 10 regular boosters before activating the Omega in order to get 2-+ month worth of 100%...

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 307	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:06:00 - [33] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Instead of 50% bonus to cap and rate of gain it's 100%? Where is the math difficulty? Because if I have an active booster now and apply it... when will I start getting 100%? If it starts right away + adds time - then I'll just apply 10 regular boosters before activating the Omega in order to get 2-+ month worth of 100%... Ah, I see the question. I'm guessing that if you have active boosters running it'll just add to the end and not stack. The current UI isn't very specific is it?
RHYTHMIK Designs BetaMax. 52	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:07:00 - [34] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Instead of 50% bonus to cap and rate of gain it's 100%? Where is the math difficulty? The math is not difficult bro, so stop trying to be a smart ass. The OP says the booster is 2x. It doesn't specify if the that 2x total or if the the booster by itself is 2x.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 307	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:09:00 - [35] - Quote RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Instead of 50% bonus to cap and rate of gain it's 100%? Where is the math difficulty? The math is not difficult bro, so stop trying to be a smart ass. The OP says the booster is 2x. It doesn't specify if the that 2x total or if the the booster by itself is 2x. I can't login right now but doesn't the current booster say 1.5x?
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 387	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:10:00 - [36] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Instead of 50% bonus to cap and rate of gain it's 100%? Where is the math difficulty? Because if I have an active booster now and apply it... when will I start getting 100%? If it starts right away + adds time - then I'll just apply 10 regular boosters before activating the Omega in order to get 2-+ month worth of 100%... There is only one active booster slot, and this Omega Booster would be applied to the same slot whenever you activate it. You can't activate it if you have another active booster running.
RHYTHMIK Designs BetaMax. 52	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:13:00 - [37] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Instead of 50% bonus to cap and rate of gain it's 100%? Where is the math difficulty? The math is not difficult bro, so stop trying to be a smart ass. The OP says the booster is 2x. It doesn't specify if the that 2x total or if the the booster by itself is 2x. I can't login right now but doesn't the current booster say 1.5x? Nah, it says x0.5
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 307	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:18:00 - [38] - Quote RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: Nah, it says x0.5 CCP needs to hire an editor. They spread so much confusion and misinformation in their announcements and item descriptions.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 141	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:18:00 - [39] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: ChribbaX wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Instead of 50% bonus to cap and rate of gain it's 100%? Where is the math difficulty? Because if I have an active booster now and apply it... when will I start getting 100%? If it starts right away + adds time - then I'll just apply 10 regular boosters before activating the Omega in order to get 2-+ month worth of 100%... There is only one active booster slot, and this Omega Booster would be applied to the same slot whenever you activate it. You can't activate it if you have another active booster running. I'm pretty sure I can since I have extended my boosters many times while they still haven't run out. So yeah only way would be in the case that it would deny me from activating it then, hence why we're asking how it works since extending boosters right now (when there's only been one type) hasn't been a problem. /c

The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1081	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:30:00 - [40] - Quote Interesting. So the devs watching the newbie-vet topics and decide to give them a little "push" to be aible to keep up. Mark my words in the future we will see 6X active boosters.

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 308	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:32:00 - [41] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Interesting. So the devs watching the newbie-vet topics and decide to give them a little "push" to be aible to keep up. Mark my words in the future we will see 6X active boosters. Wondering if a 6x active booster without a 6x cap increase would be useful for the time constrained among us. Can only play a few hours this week? Give us $20 and we'll help you reach your 1.5x cap!
RHYTHMIK Designs BetaMax. 52	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:44:00 - [42] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: Nah, it says x0.5 CCP needs to hire an editor. They spread so much confusion and misinformation in their announcements and item descriptions. Very true
GeneralButtNaked Burnwall Industries 74	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:54:00 - [43] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Interesting. So the devs watching the newbie-vet topics and decide to give them a little "push" to be aible to keep up. Mark my words in the future we will see 6X active boosters. Push to catch up? I don't think so. I think this is more like a push for those in the lead to stay there. It does not seem likely that a rookie is going to take a **** kicking and then say "Well, if I throw some money at this I can compete" Far more likely that those at the front of the pack will dump cash to keep their lead, and those slightly behind who do not want to get even further behind the curve will then attempt to keep up. For once I am glad that I can't trade anything from my main account to this one. Even though I have two merc packs worth of stuff I can't use, at least I don't have to worry about being faced with the P2W choice. So by next week, we should expect to see 6 million SP players all over the place. Gonna be tons of fun for new guys now.
Brush Master HavoK Core 186	Posted - 2013.03.04 16:19:00 - [44] - Quote RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: RHYTHMIK Designs wrote: Nah, it says x0.5 CCP needs to hire an editor. They spread so much confusion and misinformation in their announcements and item descriptions. Very true Definitely needs an editor. Boosters which you buy are written very poorly and this omega booster, it better be pretty detailed on what exactly it does and how it will interact with current boosters.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1081	Posted - 2013.03.04 17:01:00 - [45] - Quote i allready know how that "new booster" will work out. At the moment we have x.5 (50% booster) which stacks up with the regular SP gain which is x1 (100% SP gain). So we end up having x1.5 (150% SP gain). Now the advertised booster has a X2 multiplyer. So what are we going to end up? No idea? well i enlight you now. We will have a x3 SP gain with that new booster so basically the double of that what we have now with the regular active booster. Additionally the cap is aswell again doubled. Means with that booster you can achieve the work of 3 weeks in just 1 . And that deal is not bad either when you consider that a regular booster grants you only a x.5 bonus for 7000 AUR for 1 week. So to achieve the same effect like the omgea booster you have to pay 14.000AUR and play 14 days. The only downside to this booster is that it costs equally 3500 AUR more. Now im gonna take a step further. And to compare it even more a player which uses that booster learns basically skills 3 times faster then somebody who doesnt use a booster at all. I can allready see record sales for that thing.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 986	Posted - 2013.03.04 17:03:00 - [46] - Quote My take on this booster is that it is a little more SP for a lot more money, just like level 5 of any skill. You can get a 50% boost for 7,000 AUR, or a 100% boost for 17,500 AUR. And of course that's only on the active portion of your SP which is 53% of your total, so it's a 13% total boost for 125% of your current active and active boosters combined which doesn't look so great for the cost.
Juan Mortime 426th Infantry 0	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:03:00 - [47] - Quote It is quite a lot for a 7day booster even with double sp gain. now if it does increase passive by perhaps 50% it'd be very much worth it. especially if its all in one slot similar to some the officer/pirate implants in EVE and then allows you to add another passive too. i am also interested in how it works with an active booster already in place. i have teh 30day booster an i'm wondering if it will pick up the bonus when its activated, although being a seperate style of implant wonderign if you cant stack it with a bog standard implant. Its an interesting item and it'd be nice to have a devpost explaining just what its functionality actually is instead of player speculation , which as past experiences have told me are often highly exagerrated and left with disappointment and lot of grief on the forums when people feel 'cheated'
Pays 2 Win Shining Flame Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:18:00 - [48] - Quote i <3 CCP for bringing in all these P2W option. Muah! kisses!
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis 248	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:29:00 - [49] - Quote Pays 2 Win wrote: i <3 CCP for bringing in all these P2W option. Muah! kisses! I knew you would be here ...
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 207	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:32:00 - [50] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Interesting. So the devs watching the newbie-vet topics and decide to give them a little "push" to be aible to keep up. Mark my words in the future we will see 6X active boosters. Push to catch up? I don't think so. I think this is more like a push for those in the lead to stay there. It does not seem likely that a rookie is going to take a **** kicking and then say "Well, if I throw some money at this I can compete" Far more likely that those at the front of the pack will dump cash to keep their lead, and those slightly behind who do not want to get even further behind the curve will then attempt to keep up. For once I am glad that I can't trade anything from my main account to this one. Even though I have two merc packs worth of stuff I can't use, at least I don't have to worry about being faced with the P2W choice. So by next week, we should expect to see 6 million SP players all over the place. Gonna be tons of fun for new guys now. This.

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1181	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:43:00 - [51] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Limited time means it won't be available to purchase next week, so buy them while they're hot, though they might come back in later weeks. As for the 7k AUR price on the passive booster being listed in the sales, consider that a mistake on my part for not realizing it's always that price. Why is the 30-day passive not on the market yet?
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 368	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:54:00 - [52] - Quote When the player market is up and running you will be able to buy this thing for ISK (along with every other AUR item). So how is that pay 2 win? Seriously...I want someone to explain to me how something that can be purchased with either real money or ISK is pay 2 win? How is that in any way unfair? Sure, it'll be a lot of ISK compared to regular gear but so what?
Juan Mortime 426th Infantry 0	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:57:00 - [53] - Quote Delta Iddon wrote: Something interesting i noticed when i was looking at the omega booster Quote: The Omega-Booster features superior performance over standard models. It doubles the number of potential skill points earned from battles as well as the speed at which they are earned. Does that mean this is not only 2x SP in battles, but also double passive? or does the "potential" refer to the sp cap? possibly mean that it increeases skillcap to 380k sps but also doubles the points you get for kills ect so instead of 50 a kill you get 100. that makes more sense
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 265	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:07:00 - [54] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: When the player market is up and running you will be able to buy this thing for ISK (along with every other AUR item). So how is that pay 2 win? Seriously...I want someone to explain to me how something that can be purchased with either real money or ISK is pay 2 win? How is that in any way unfair? Sure, it'll be a lot of ISK compared to regular gear but so what? Because the market is NOT up yet. You cannot say a game is currently balanced because of changes they will make some time in the eventual future because it has no bearing on how balanced it is right now. Next argument please.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 296	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:12:00 - [55] - Quote I wasnt going to buy this because it didnt seem like a big enough of SP boost. I still have a week left on my 30day another 7 day active and will likely get another merc back. Given the cost of this doesnt outweigh the combined effect of 2 1 week passive boosters for less AUR i cant see the benefit However i may buy them and hold them for sale on secondary market. But if this 2x boost applies to soft cap then game on cause i will use this bad boy for 1 week and really grind like crazy. I have 5.4M SP so its not like i need much more but im racing my behind to 8M SP as fast i can. Being a logi is hard work ya'll
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 368	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:29:00 - [56] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Altina McAlterson wrote: When the player market is up and running you will be able to buy this thing for ISK (along with every other AUR item). So how is that pay 2 win? Seriously...I want someone to explain to me how something that can be purchased with either real money or ISK is pay 2 win? How is that in any way unfair? Sure, it'll be a lot of ISK compared to regular gear but so what? Because the market is NOT up yet. You cannot say a game is currently balanced because of changes they will make some time in the eventual future because it has no bearing on how balanced it is right now. Next argument please. These aren't "changes" in the "eventual future", they are "features" when the game is "finished". If someone's building me a house and I decided to start sleeping there before they've put the roof on it do I sue them because my stuff got wet in the rain? And "how balanced it is right now" is irrelevant if they already have the features planned to address the issue. So everyone can stop whining or just go away until the game is released.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1183	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:44:00 - [57] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Altina McAlterson wrote: When the player market is up and running you will be able to buy this thing for ISK (along with every other AUR item). So how is that pay 2 win? Seriously...I want someone to explain to me how something that can be purchased with either real money or ISK is pay 2 win? How is that in any way unfair? Sure, it'll be a lot of ISK compared to regular gear but so what? Because the market is NOT up yet. You cannot say a game is currently balanced because of changes they will make some time in the eventual future because it has no bearing on how balanced it is right now. Next argument please. These aren't "changes" in the "eventual future", they are "features" when the game is "finished". If someone's building me a house and I decided to start sleeping there before they've put the roof on it do I sue them because my stuff got wet in the rain? And "how balanced it is right now" is irrelevant if they already have the features planned to address the issue. So everyone can stop whining or just go away until the game is released. Actually you would. (I do get your point, just punishing you for a bad example).
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 986	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:50:00 - [58] - Quote I think peoplel are expecting too much from this booster. I would be shocked if it could be stacked with another active booster, so you'd have to wait for your current active to expire before it would take effect. At that point you would get a 2x boost on your active instead of the 1.5x boost you get today. That amounts to 95,200 more SP per week than you get today, or 632,800 instead of 537,600 SP (assuming full boosting). It's not chicken feed, but it's hardly going to let you leap ahead of everyone inside a week.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 265	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:57:00 - [59] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Altina McAlterson wrote: When the player market is up and running you will be able to buy this thing for ISK (along with every other AUR item). So how is that pay 2 win? Seriously...I want someone to explain to me how something that can be purchased with either real money or ISK is pay 2 win? How is that in any way unfair? Sure, it'll be a lot of ISK compared to regular gear but so what? Because the market is NOT up yet. You cannot say a game is currently balanced because of changes they will make some time in the eventual future because it has no bearing on how balanced it is right now. Next argument please. These aren't "changes" in the "eventual future", they are "features" when the game is "finished". If someone's building me a house and I decided to start sleeping there before they've put the roof on it do I sue them because my stuff got wet in the rain? And "how balanced it is right now" is irrelevant if they already have the features planned to address the issue. So everyone can stop whining or just go away until the game is released. So basically you are saying "It doesn't matter how broken it is right now, because later, at an undisclosed time in the future, after the top paying players have pulled even FURTHER ahead of everyone else, it will be fixed when the game is released". Yeah, makes a lot of sense.
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 368	Posted - 2013.03.04 20:47:00 - [60] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: If someone's building me a house and I decided to start sleeping there before they've put the roof on it do I sue them because my stuff got wet in the rain? And "how balanced it is right now" is irrelevant if they already have the features planned to address the issue. So everyone can stop whining or just go away until the game is released. Actually you would. (I do get your point, just punishing you for a bad example).[/quote] Assuming you are in the US I was under the impression the builder could not be held responsible since you chose to live in the house before it passed an inspection by the state. Not 100% sure though, but I still went with it. I know the builder isn't allowing you to live there before it's ready, so it's not an exact parallel. But I was focusing more on the fact you agree you can't live there until the inspection is passed and the job ruled complete being similar to the agreement we have that we understand it's a work in progress and stuff isn't going to work correctly. Baal Omniscient wrote: So basically you are saying "It doesn't matter how broken it is right now, because later, at an undisclosed time in the future, after the top paying players have pulled even FURTHER ahead of everyone else, it will be fixed when the game is released". Yeah, makes a lot of sense. Yea, that's exactly what I'm saying. That's what you agreed to when you signed up for this, that you understood things would be broken. CCP has a plan in place (read: "major aspect of the game that isn't ready yet") that will balance it out so until they implement that you can deal with it or you can wait for the market to be implemented before playing again.



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