DUST Search - Regarding the Active Omega-Booster

Vrain Matari wrote:

trollsroyce wrote:

Think I'll write a couple bonus hours at the clients expense now... actually make it a years worth of boosters while at it :)

Tbh I don't like this boosted p2w aspect; these should have a hard cap on the sp (no gains after 6M sp or similiar). Hopefully the Omega means there won't be any stronger boosters coming.

Agreed 100% trolls. Booster should not work for characters with 6 million + skillpoints. I don't like it either. And the 'Pay to advance faster is not pay to win' argument doesn't pass the smell test, so nobody, CCP devs included, needs to parrot that here.

Basically CCP is selling skillpoints. It doesn't give me a more powerful weapon or tougher armor, but it does make for a significantly stronger character.

It's sneakier and hard-to-quantify, but the vets all know the skillpoints make a real difference on the battlefeild.

Why dress it up as a booster? Why not just sell the $killpoints, CCP?

When i face an opponent on the battlefeild, i want to know we worked for our skillpoints equally hard. Maybe he was smarter about it, maybe he spent his points more wisely, but we had equal opportunity to do so.

Will i buy it? You bet your ass I will, because, I will capitalize on every unfair advantage that CCP let's me capitalize on. Can I afford it? TBH, i won't even notice that the money's been spent.

But it still makes me feel dirty.

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ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 141	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:13:00 - [1] - Quote "Active Omega-Booster (7-Day) - 17,500 AUR [2x, time-limited, available this week only]" So... does that mean we get even more SP above the cap using this or will it only boost us up to the normal cap? /c

Invading Oren Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:18:00 - [2] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: "Active Omega-Booster (7-Day) - 17,500 AUR [2x, time-limited, available this week only]" So... does that mean we get even more SP above the cap using this or will it only boost us up to the normal cap? /c Probably more SP above the previous cap. Like the active booster did to the normal cap. Btw it says that the passive is 7k aur and its on sale. But 7k is the regular price so how is this a better deal?
Delta Iddon Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 5	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:24:00 - [3] - Quote I'm more interested in this "time-limited" thing, does that mean we only have a certain amount of time to use it? I was planning on buying it to keep for a while as i still have my 30 day booster going, but if you have to use it within a certain time span then i wont bother
Invading Oren Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:26:00 - [4] - Quote Delta Iddon wrote: I'm more interested in this "time-limited" thing, does that mean we only have a certain amount of time to use it? I was planning on buying it to keep for a while as i still have my 30 day booster going, but if you have to use it within a certain time span then i wont bother I guess "time -limited" means that offer/item won't be available next week , so you can't buy it later.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 831	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:29:00 - [5] - Quote Limited time means it won't be available to purchase next week, so buy them while they're hot, though they might come back in later weeks. As for the 7k AUR price on the passive booster being listed in the sales, consider that a mistake on my part for not realizing it's always that price.

Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 6	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:30:00 - [6] - Quote I just wonder how this will work with current equiped active boosters
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 42	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:32:00 - [7] - Quote I don't even see it on the market.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 831	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:33:00 - [8] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: I don't even see it on the market. It's coming out tomorrow.

Ghesh Tkall DUST University Ivy League 5	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:45:00 - [9] - Quote Where is this? I've looked all over the marketplace and it's nowhere... EDIT: Nevermind. Hadn't refreshed the thread in a while and that was already answered...
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1165	Posted - 2013.03.04 09:59:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: I don't even see it on the market. It's coming out tomorrow. Would you mind giving us more information on the scout and logistic "package" ? Not very clear. Also, the omega active pack is a 7 day active booster that gives +100% SP per game and above the cap ? Overall, when you drop new stuff like that. Try to be as thorough as possible. Please. Thanks. Bye. Have a good life. /out

JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:10:00 - [11] - Quote Could I please get a source for this info. Thanks
Invading Oren Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:12:00 - [12] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Could I please get a source for this info. Thanks Announcements https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62035&find=unread
LrDr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:20:00 - [13] - Quote What real mechanic of "Active Omega-Booster" ?: - 2x SP from battle (1x - battle + 1x from booster) w/o week cap modifier (190k) - 3x SP from battle (1x - battle + 2x from booster) w/o week cap modifier (190k) - 2x SP from battle (1x - battle + 1x from booster) & + 1x week cap (190k+190k) - 3x SP from battle (1x - battle + 2x from booster) & + 2x week cap (190k+380k)
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 180	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:32:00 - [14] - Quote Think I'll write a couple bonus hours at the clients expense now... actually make it a years worth of boosters while at it :) Tbh I don't like this boosted p2w aspect; these should have a hard cap on the sp (no gains after 6M sp or similiar). Hopefully the Omega means there won't be any stronger boosters coming.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 67	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:37:00 - [15] - Quote Yeah omega sounds like the ultimate booster which is good. :) And it is for limited time so it is all good too. Pretty expensive stuff for your 100% sp limited gain. Probably will go for it.
JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:54:00 - [16] - Quote Invading Oren wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Could I please get a source for this info. Thanks Announcements https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62035&find=unread Thank you.
Delta Iddon Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 6	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:56:00 - [17] - Quote Something interesting i noticed when i was looking at the omega booster Quote: The Omega-Booster features superior performance over standard models. It doubles the number of potential skill points earned from battles as well as the speed at which they are earned. Does that mean this is not only 2x SP in battles, but also double passive?
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 387	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:58:00 - [18] - Quote Delta Iddon wrote: Something interesting i noticed when i was looking at the omega booster Quote: The Omega-Booster features superior performance over standard models. It doubles the number of potential skill points earned from battles as well as the speed at which they are earned. Does that mean this is not only 2x SP in battles, but also double passive? I think it means you'll get a weekly cap of 380k instead of 285k the current boosters give you. It has nothing to do with passive SP.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 125	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:59:00 - [19] - Quote almost 10 bucks... geez. I'll just be patient and buy more merc packs when the time comes.
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion 66	Posted - 2013.03.04 11:01:00 - [20] - Quote More pre-fit fail suits? I hope everyone is prepared to rage when it turns out the Titan and Atlas heavy suits they're so excited about are just more of the same nonsense. Also a 2x booster? This makes me want to use boosters less. I'm prepared to accept that a lot of what is good about this game is it's potential and whilst we don't have everything we want right now progress is being made. But when it turns out that that progress isn't what we were promised and instead we get garbage like this I care less about this game.

Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1168	Posted - 2013.03.04 11:07:00 - [21] - Quote Aqil Aegivan wrote: More pre-fit fail suits? I hope everyone is prepared to rage when it turns out the Titan and Atlas heavy suits they're so excited about are just more of the same nonsense. Also a 2x booster? This makes me want to use boosters less. I'm prepared to accept that a lot of what is good about this game is it's potential and whilst we don't have everything we want right now progress is being made. But when it turns out that that progress isn't what we were promised and instead we get garbage like this I care less about this game. Yeah, i'm worried all the suits extracted from the API code of EVE are just that kind of crappy useless AUR suits
Yay Adski Imperfects Negative-Feedback 139	Posted - 2013.03.04 12:27:00 - [22] - Quote Aqil Aegivan wrote: More pre-fit fail suits? I hope everyone is prepared to rage when it turns out the Titan and Atlas heavy suits they're so excited about are just more of the same nonsense. Also a 2x booster? This makes me want to use boosters less. I'm prepared to accept that a lot of what is good about this game is it's potential and whilst we don't have everything we want right now progress is being made. But when it turns out that that progress isn't what we were promised and instead we get garbage like this I care less about this game. They are milking all the money they can out of people before they give a new build. The more people that keep buying this stuff the longer they can go without needing to put out a new build. Personally as it stands I have no current interest in playing this game therefore i'm not spending any money on it. New build new cool stuff? Sure take my money! Old build same ****, trying to sell old stock/things people don't want? No thanks I'll pass.
Sgt Kirk ZionTCD Legacy Rising 372	Posted - 2013.03.04 12:35:00 - [23] - Quote Yay Adski wrote: Aqil Aegivan wrote: More pre-fit fail suits? I hope everyone is prepared to rage when it turns out the Titan and Atlas heavy suits they're so excited about are just more of the same nonsense. Also a 2x booster? This makes me want to use boosters less. I'm prepared to accept that a lot of what is good about this game is it's potential and whilst we don't have everything we want right now progress is being made. But when it turns out that that progress isn't what we were promised and instead we get garbage like this I care less about this game. They are milking all the money they can out of people before they give a new build. The more people that keep buying this stuff the longer they can go without needing to put out a new build. Personally as it stands I have no current interest in playing this game therefore i'm not spending any money on it. New build new cool stuff? Sure take my money! Old build same ****, trying to sell old stock/things people don't want? No thanks I'll pass. I don't often agree with people on the internet but when I do it's 100% truth.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 770	Posted - 2013.03.04 12:42:00 - [24] - Quote Any chance ccp can post the math behind this booster please and tell me how its going to interact with my current boosters that are in effect already? will the omega work before or after my current boosters finish? How is the sp gain and cap worked out? Im interested in buying a bunch of these but not till I know how they will work and how they will impact my current boosters
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 424	Posted - 2013.03.04 13:21:00 - [25] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: Think I'll write a couple bonus hours at the clients expense now... actually make it a years worth of boosters while at it :) Tbh I don't like this boosted p2w aspect; these should have a hard cap on the sp (no gains after 6M sp or similiar). Hopefully the Omega means there won't be any stronger boosters coming. Agreed 100% trolls. Booster should not work for characters with 6 million + skillpoints. I don't like it either. And the 'Pay to advance faster is not pay to win' argument doesn't pass the smell test, so nobody, CCP devs included, needs to parrot that here. Basically CCP is selling skillpoints. It doesn't give me a more powerful weapon or tougher armor, but it does make for a significantly stronger character. It's sneakier and hard-to-quantify, but the vets all know the skillpoints make a real difference on the battlefeild. Why dress it up as a booster? Why not just sell the $killpoints, CCP? When i face an opponent on the battlefeild, i want to know we worked for our skillpoints equally hard. Maybe he was smarter about it, maybe he spent his points more wisely, but we had equal opportunity to do so. Will i buy it? You bet your ass I will, because, I will capitalize on every unfair advantage that CCP let's me capitalize on. Can I afford it? TBH, i won't even notice that the money's been spent. But it still makes me feel dirty.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 264	Posted - 2013.03.04 13:52:00 - [26] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: trollsroyce wrote: Think I'll write a couple bonus hours at the clients expense now... actually make it a years worth of boosters while at it :) Tbh I don't like this boosted p2w aspect; these should have a hard cap on the sp (no gains after 6M sp or similiar). Hopefully the Omega means there won't be any stronger boosters coming. Agreed 100% trolls. Booster should not work for characters with 6 million + skillpoints. I don't like it either. And the 'Pay to advance faster is not pay to win' argument doesn't pass the smell test, so nobody, CCP devs included, needs to parrot that here. Basically CCP is selling skillpoints. It doesn't give me a more powerful weapon or tougher armor, but it does make for a significantly stronger character. It's sneakier and hard-to-quantify, but the vets all know the skillpoints make a real difference on the battlefeild. Why dress it up as a booster? Why not just sell the $killpoints, CCP? When i face an opponent on the battlefeild, i want to know we worked for our skillpoints equally hard. Maybe he was smarter about it, maybe he spent his points more wisely, but we had equal opportunity to do so. Will i buy it? You bet your ass I will, because, I will capitalize on every unfair advantage that CCP let's me capitalize on. Can I afford it? TBH, i won't even notice that the money's been spent. But it still makes me feel dirty. Agreed. It's not pay to win, but it isn't far from it. It's P2W.... unless you are just good enough to counteract it. Yes, new players will be behind in gear, but letting other players who are just as good and started at the same time fall behind because they don't P2Play? Come on. When there are two players of equal skill on the field, gear is the tie breaker. When one of those players "pays to get ahead", is that P2W? Gear being the tie breaker in this, and gear being accessible due to SP, and more SP available due to AUR, and AUR available with money. It may not be completely P2W, but it's certainly it's P2W's nappy jobless cousin who never comes over on the holidays. There does need to be a hard cap on SP available from boosters.
PT SD Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 137	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:20:00 - [27] - Quote Now, this my friend is P2W. CCP, why have you turned into EA? There should be a hard cap on boosters, not pay more money to get pretty much paid SP.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 129	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:22:00 - [28] - Quote You guys are dumb. Stop playing. Just stop. We don't NEED you and your entitlement issues. Just looking at the progress of the game over the years, you should KNOW the devs are hard at work on this game. This is CCP for christs sake! These little market things are just some flavor to tide us over until the next big update. It's the publicity/marketing team doing this, not the programmer devs I bet. I mean, it takes little to no coding to create these little market packs/deals. So please, STFU, or GTFO. Your self-entitled, self-important replies in these threads are just a waste of space. Also, sorry for going off topic.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1169	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:35:00 - [29] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Any chance ccp can post the math behind this booster please and tell me how its going to interact with my current boosters that are in effect already? will the omega work before or after my current boosters finish? How is the sp gain and cap worked out? Im interested in buying a bunch of these but not till I know how they will work and how they will impact my current boosters I support that request. Also, that new active booster kinda is borderline pay-to-win. I get it is intended to be a "catch-up those basters at 4MIL SP" item. And for that purpose it would be great. BUT : It should come with some kind of limit. You should only be allowed to buy 2 or 3. Or even some kind of SP limit over which you cannot buy them at all. Please consider those options for the future. As a dude buying hundred of those things is an obvious pay-to-win. If it's just one or two it's just meh.... Balance people, balance.
RHYTHMIK Designs BetaMax. 52	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:53:00 - [30] - Quote I too want to know the math behind the Omega Booster. Guess we'll find out tomorrow.



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