It sounds to me like you guys are already doing what you intended to do by getting together and discussing the game.

Why do you need a name if you don't have an agenda? Why not just keep meeting, theorycrafting and talking about the game without making a forum post annointing yourselves as a council?


If you think the forum signal to noise ration is too bad to get your point across then simply email the Dust 514 team with your ideas and concerns.


***The one thing you want to avoid, IMO, is insinuating that you represent the majority community opinion in some way.

It sounds to me like you guys are already doing what you intended to do by getting together and discussing the game.

Why do you need a name if you don't have an agenda? Why not just keep meeting, theorycrafting and talking about the game without making a forum post annointing yourselves as a council?


If you think the forum signal to noise ration is too bad to get your point across then simply email the Dust 514 team with your ideas and concerns.


***The one thing you want to avoid, IMO, is insinuating that you represent the majority community opinion in some way.

I think its about time CCP weighed in on this...

It sounds to me like you guys are already doing what you intended to do by getting together and discussing the game.

Why do you need a name if you don't have an agenda? Why not just keep meeting, theorycrafting and talking about the game without making a forum post annointing yourselves as a council?


If you think the forum signal to noise ration is too bad to get your point across then simply email the Dust 514 team with your ideas and concerns.


***The one thing you want to avoid, IMO, is insinuating that you represent the majority community opinion in some way.

it's more than just a bunch of people talking about community issues, we want to build a platform everyone will want to use.

take out of game user management for an example, or a corporation website that has statistics on every corp registered on the site, (without users having to manually enter that data), membership management, forums, a home for your corporation to visit when they aren't in game.

sure a CSM / CPM can go to ccp and ask them to make those tools... but CCP is giving us crest, something that lets us do it ourselves.

that's just some of the stuff we'll be doing. Talking about political issues or in game issues is part of what we want to do, but we want this project to be the central hub to all things outside of the game. Something a forum will never be able to provide.

it's not "us" and "them", it's just us. we are providing a service and tools to ourselves, to expand the metagame :) like I said in the very first post when I decided to do something about it "I have a set of skills that the community can use, so I'm going to support it as best as I can". I'm hoping the community will eventually feel the same way and expand upon itself.

Until CCP says anything on this matter the whole 'CPM' is a pipe dream

As it is now the 'CPM' in my eyes is made up of ppl who mainly want more power and to change DUST to suit them and the corps that they represent

They may yap about things in the IRC with devs and say 'we are helping the game' when in fact it was proved that the IRC is run by an individual for ther own gain and to inflate that ego a bit more with the promise of more power later on like a seat on the CPM

Have a different view in the IRC and you get banned, or they just mute everyone so only certain questions are asked so you might aswell be banned, you have no voice if you are outside of the club

We dont even have the list of representatives in this 'CPM'

No one knows who they really are and what they stand for, they are hoping that when CCP finally decide to get involved that the 'CPM' looks organized and official enough that they all get places at the table

As it is now CCP would be best to leave it and deal with it themselves at a later date

Pretty sure EFT, EvEMon, Aura, etc.... all created by people who didn't need to attach a council name to themselves.

I get what you are doing but putting a council name to it seems unneccessary and what most of the contrarians are trying to get across to you.

Honestly it sounds like you want to run a fansite.....doesn't take an elected group or self titled group to do that. If your intentions are selfless and you provide a service to the community then please let us know when you have something other than a council name and I'm sure you will have all the support you could ever want.


Best of luck o7

it was posted a page or two back captain awsome listed all the current people in channel. There is no password and anyone reasonable is allowed in.

Just give it up now. You theory crafting from a few will never be accepted by the community.

it was posted a page or two back captain awsome listed all the current people in channel. There is no password and anyone reasonable is allowed in.

Beers perfect the example of a fan boy elitist. Its his views or nobody's views.

Hm yea i dont believe you

If you dont agree with the club you get kicked and banned from the clubhouse and its happened already a few times

Also half of that list is in some way associated with IMPS, other half is ppl i have never heard of at all and why is that? its because they dont post on the official CCP forums and a couple of other ppl are only ther to inflate ther ego and get something for themselves

So a 'Council' which happens to be run by one alliance with maybe a few ppl who are also in it for themselves with a few other names that no one has ever heard of

The 'CPM' needs shutting down and for CCP to take control of it

Hm yea i dont believe you

If you dont agree with the club you get kicked and banned from the clubhouse and its happened already a few times

Also half of that list is in some way associated with IMPS, other half is ppl i have never heard of at all and why is that? its because they dont post on the official CCP forums and a couple of other ppl are only ther to inflate ther ego and get something for themselves

So a 'Council' which happens to be run by one alliance with maybe a few ppl who are also in it for themselves with a few other names that no one has ever heard of

The 'CPM' needs shutting down and for CCP to take control of it

Proof or STFU.
Current ban lists on #dust514 channel and #dustcpm channel are empty.

you are grossly misunderstanding what's happening, read the page not just that one post, it'll clear up a lot of what you just stated.

All i needed was a list of names, that list just showed what the 'CPM' really is

luke? lurk? lark? like?