This game gave me great impressions in the first match. I sucked. So now its a challenge.

~Bill

Your suggestions would be fine if this was an only infantry game, but vehicles really need those increases to deal with the damage output of high level AV.

man you would have hated this game months ago jump off it man believe it or not the nerf hammer has already hit the skills(rather hard) because of the constant moaning from those that can't handle that this isn't just an fps it's a mmofps and the gameplay and skills that we can acquire reflect that like in any mmo the gap between a level 1 and a level 20 is vast the difference being that if you are any good you can still kill someone above your level.

please, this is supposed to be a mixture of two (and if rumors are true three) types of gaming a fine mix that because of things like this may end up being just one,I promise you that as you gain experience you will find much to love about this game but don't try to change it because you got trounced a few times.

My suggestions weren't intended to include vehicles and won't effect vehicles in any way.

My suggestions weren't intended to include vehicles and won't effect vehicles in any way.

If the player retention really is that poor, please show us the numbers. Last I heard, we crossed over 1 million active players last month.
Or at least, please direct us to where we can hear about it.
Was this on a CCP broadcast of some sort?

Because nearly everything you mentioned about Dust as a negative, imho, is exactly what makes this game worth playing.

Dust forces noobs out of the mindset, that they can force a win, with little to no communications.
Once they have been humbled enough, they realize they DO want to win, and they want to know how. So they start asking questions, and the people they first look to are the Corps.

EVE: Join an alliance, things get a bit easier.
DUST: Join a corp, things get a bit easier.

A noob would have almost no business going into EVE and totally causing political and economic upset, so what business would he have coming into DUST with the ability to immediately fight on equal ground, or close-to-equal ground?

Nerfing those shield and armor increase skills will hurt vehicles

My point was about your suggestions to passive skills like shield control, these are very important for vehicles and any nerf to them would see a major increase in the loss of vehicles.

Flattening damage and suits already has made this game boring and bad. Pretty sure most of the other Imps have this opinion to fwiw, should ask sometime.

When we stop spending time stomping pubs and taking districts from other geared and skilled corps this will be a non-issue.

Also

All of your examples are not mmo whatsoever """League of Legends, Halo, Quake, Counter-Strike, Street Fighter, hell even Call of Duty, the list goes on."""

This seems to suggest that you have given little or no thought to the ideas of progression and choices that MMO have.

A MMO just means it's a massively multiplayer game. Nearly all MMOs have happened to be RPGs so they share similar progression systems but that doesn't mean a MMO needs to be a RPG. This game isn't even a MMO anyways and not a RPG for that matter.

I completely disagree with the op. SP making you better than other players is the carrot on the end of a stick for this game.. The point of playing a mmo/fps is progresion. What you are sugesting sounds like another run of the mill shooter. Flat progression will drive our core group away, the players that came to this game in the first place because its different.

A tip for all those really good veterans that are bored because they are to good:

Use a weapon that you are not skilled up in.
Use a type one suit with no mods
Save up skill points and handycap yourself by not using them

Tip for rookies:

Head down and put in your time.
Specialize first then branch out

Please do not try and turn this into COD

To me this is why this game is dieing. There is almost no content and nothing to do, thats a pretty good reason that people stop playing vs your pubstomp theory.

It's not really ever going to be a good version of the games you suggest it emulate.

It's not an mmo either at this point.

I think they've made a serious mistake by taking it to openbeta without any of the features that very many of us came for ie mostly MMO features like persistence and consequences from the politics of Eve.

Fwiw part of the risk and choice of picking your gear or skills is that you will pick something that's too expensive (you die too frequently) or pick something that is too cheap and doesn't have the hp or damage you actually ended up needing.

People wanting flatter gear, to balance against the pubstomping, has mostly ruined this aspect of the game.

Flattening the SP progression would make the character progression pointless as well. GG.

...I have not suggested that we remove or flatten SP progression. Health and damage is not the only thing that SP effects. There are plenty of areas to grind and progress in that help you survive on the battlefield, such as CPU and PG upgrades, stamina upgrades, weapon upgrades (range, reload, capacity), hacking / scanning / electronic upgrades, every upgrade that unlocks new equipment which leads to even more upgrades...the list goes on. There are plenty of skills out there that help give you the edge on the battlefield.

I am not asking for health and damage upgrades to be removed or become useless. I'm pointing out they are just currently way too over the top, so over the top that they are significantly more important and more powerful than anything else in the game, and should balanced with the other skills. With my suggestions 3 complex shield mods would still be giving you nearly 100 health, which gives you a nice advantage on the field but not so much that makes you a demi-god and essentially renders all other modules useless compared to shield mods.

Also, Blondie, please think about what you're trying to say. Having to purposely handicap yourself just so you can have fun in a game? Ya, great game mechanic...not really.

Your basic theory is also flawed in this way.

1. We want players that notice that players in black suits are very dangerous and they should USE DIFFERENT TACTICS.

2. We dont want players that repeatedly attempt to 1v1 and go home crying when it doesn't work.

@Moejoe

If you do a setup w/ your desires hp modules this is what otd look like more or less

Vk.1
High:
4 extenders =120
Low:
Armor rep
Complex regulator
Militia cpu upgrade

Take lv5 in both mechanics shield booster

So total shield = 401
" armor = 131

The problem is, you turn a proto suit into what a T2 suit is now w/ 2 complex extenders and max shield & mechanics skills. So your proto suit would easily be destroyed by an exile (as exiles take out current B-series nicely).

This would require another damage reduction, otherwise duvolle will rip through suits even easier. Hell hmg would become even deadlier as well. As now a militia heavy has more hp then u do, before u take passive skill affects into account