It is a great thread with a lot of ideas, and YOUR NAME HERE is a great person to discuss things in a mature manner with. Hat's off to you for that sir.

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It is a great thread with a lot of ideas, and YOUR NAME HERE is a great person to discuss things in a mature manner with. Hat's off to you for that sir.

o/

Even if im not always agree with him, his post are constructive and always make debate +1

-- many levels of snipping going on here --
-- just a little YOUR NAME HERE snip as well --
I think somas are trash and won't survive a whole game with a blaster. I also think they should require skills to use.
But without investing core tank skills, they are pointless and death traps.

Thread was long but a good read.

My opinions
Armor overall needs a major fix (come on CCP this needs to happen EVE side too)
Shields needs some improvement on collision damage (though should take a bit more damage than armor)
Shield counters needs to be in place

Millitia AV options needs to be either nerfed or removed entirely (*free swarms* *nom nom armor*)
Also saying that there are militia tanks that are cheap both ISK and SP wise so we should have some way of countering them
is stupid that's like saying
"you can have a militia dropsuit so why can't we have a militia OP launcher?"
They are hulls people not turrets.

Why are you always complaining about your incompetence with HAVs?

Stack Hardeners and you can become invincible.

There's a few issues with tanks I'd like to have a chat about.


Currently skilled AV can do terrible things to our tanks that will make us corner cry and hide behind the redline or simply die.

It takes only 1 mind you, and AV isn't a hard thing to skill into, the SP requirements are very low compared to tanks.

What I'd like to see is tanks have a double hp buff.

I think it would solve a lot of issues currently,

Some AV things need looked at. AV grenades for 1, we don't even know how much damage they do, but its a lot.

I'd also like to see missile launchers be fixed. At this point they're wasting space in game.

Rails need around a 2.0 meter splash increase.

Shield tanks need collision corrected, you hit one with an LAV or armor tank, and it blows up. Hell you hit a wall and they blow up.

Swarm launchers need either a range reduction or damage decrease. Yes yes people will say they do nothing, that's because your shooting a shield tank, they're made to resist missiles. Armor, not at all. Proto is ridiculous, even advanced your looking at
300 damage per missile times 6 missiles times 4 in a clip.

When one hits you, the others are in the air, combined with range and peek a boo tactics, good luck.

Forge guns are fine. They do exactly what they should.

Shield tanks def need either hp buff or for their hardners to run longer with a shorter cool down.

The keyboard and joystick need to be on equal grounds, the joystick should equal the keyboard.

The mouse needs to be fixed for tank turrets, its terribly bad.

The Surya and Sagaris need to have a better role definition, add siege mode to them, or give them appropriate slots to set them apapart from standard tanks, give Surya 1 more low and Sagaris 1 more high.

Any other thoughts ideas, disagreements are welcome.

I'd like to see what people say and see if we can come to an agreement.

The player base is 90% AR 1% AV 9% assortment.

So please don't just give some wack answer because you drove a militia tank this one time, or use your starter fits.

I'm looking for comments from skilled AV players and tank drivers alike to see where we went wrong in closed beta on balancing these things.

Thanks for the hate in advance!

[Y0UR NAME HERE]

asking for tank buffs in a game where tanks magically regen health LOL

dont know bro its in a game where space ships magically regen health lol

its all so in a universe where mass can move faster then light !

that game all so says this universe mass can out run light !

poster does not know there is no blueprints on any AV weapons outside that crappy milita starter fit launcher.

No.... but there is the Dire Sentinel starter fit which has a permanent militia forge gun.

Either way, no AV needs to be nerfed unless they include even better weapon unlocks for skilling into that weapons proficiency skill. In that case, sure, nerf the lower level forge guns and swarms, but give us even MORE powerful weapons than we have now once proficiency is maxed.

As I've said in a couple threads now the problem is people were crying nerf tanks while only having militia and standard tier stuff. As we all know from pub matches standard AV does not do much against a proto tank (proto mod fitted tanks) but will take them down if there is a full squad of them . The problrms start when the proto gear starts bein brought out in corp matches (not many people will use proto AV in a pub) I'd be more inclined to nerf AV as to help out dropship brothers a bit as they get 1 shoted or 2 shoted by proto AV at their top level. If we are not nerfing the AV I would call for a rebalance on all vehicle modules people seem to forgot tanks are not the only things being shot by AV.

This ^^ all the way through closed beta

yeah pretty much I remember the build where we had free militia tanks and dropships. oh boy did my clan despise me for my choice of driving tanks (had actually chosen to drive tanks in build before E3) yes they were probably a little too strong after the AV nerf that build but before that it was fine. anyways as much as I'd hate to suggest it (can't have 2 good ideas in one day can I) maybe we should make a new thread and discuss limiting pub matches to adv and below gear as most of the population are not equipped to handle proto tanks and it wouldn't be fair to allow other proto stuff without allowing proto tanks. yes this would limit modules aswell no complex damage mods no complex armor plates no vk.0's(also proto level aur gear). I am aware about the single shard thing of EVE but isn't it also true that some of the biggest ships in EVE cannot go into high sec (in my view pubs are high sec). this would show how weak tanks are to the same tier AV and would also help the newberries. maybe we should wait until there is more then just pubs and corp matches to limit gear tiers in pubs though. this suggestion would not fix tanks but it would do wonders for stoping the pub stomping (which lets face it is boring for both sides)

After playing the role of tanker for a day, I've come up with the conclusion that they're not OP, it just requires brains and teamwork to take one out.

I had MLT on the opposing team trying to kill my with their ARs, just because you get a hitmarker doesn't mean its doing anything, a smart player almost ripped me apart with his Forge Gun (Half my shield gone, thats a lot for a Shield fitting)

The most damage that was done to me was through collision, a teammate rammed right into the back of my tank and took me down to armour, 3000 Shield HP gone in a split second.

I also played the role of AV and my team managed to take out one of the Imp's Standard tanks and got a SVTB tank down to its last bit of HP.

If a HAV is killing you over and over again, its because you're giving it the chance.

Dont run across open ground when there is a HAV about.

Dont try take me out with ARs or other weapons that use bullets, for obvious reasons.

Dont stand in front of me trying to get a lock-on with your swarmer, chances are I'd have killed you before you got a lock.

Do use your brain, attack tanks from a blindspot, Swarmers are homing missiles, you can shoot at a tank from inside cover.

Do make some effective HAV fits, Forge Gun with Complex Heavy Damage mods, Packed AV Grenades, just be prepared for a battle against a tank. The MLT anti-AV fitting is not enough.

whats with all these new tank threads why can't we all just post in some that all have good info in them

I started this one, then the other followed suit -_-

Tanks are OP +1

Tank threads are OP lol

However, mine is reworking the tank, from tankers perspective.

Most tank threads want them nerfed or removed.