So i have been watching some youtube videos and reading some articles about dust around the web and everywhere i look people are hating on dust.
And when people explain to them that it is a beta the respond "When you fanboys gonna stop using that excuse?"
they obviously never played any real betas because in my experience the beta game doesnt really represent the game at all.
BF3s beta was crap but full game was amazing for example
Maybe it because alot of developers are using betas as demos now adays
Anyway Im just sick of the dust hate.
It is going to be a fantastic game (is now)
cant wait for more updates

I for one, am not a FPS player. I'm hooked.

/c

We are alike on this matter.

On the topic, I'm personally tired of people who bash every "beta" excuse and only agree with it when everything is really broken apart and dumbed down for them. It just doesn't seem easy for them to understand that everything in this game may be subject to change at this point in time... *sigh*

So i have been watching some youtube videos and reading some articles about dust around the web and everywhere i look people are hating on dust.
And when people explain to them that it is a beta the respond "When you fanboys gonna stop using that excuse?"
they obviously never played any real betas because in my experience the beta game doesnt really represent the game at all.
BF3s beta was crap but full game was amazing for example
Maybe it because alot of developers are using betas as demos now adays
Anyway Im just sick of the dust hate.
It is going to be a fantastic game (is now)
cant wait for more updates

Was BF3's beta Open for such a long time and any and all progress made during the beta saved onto the final release in addition to people actually PAYING for products in the beta? No. That's because whilst BF3 had an open beta, Dust 514 is just a rushed release with a Beta label on it as an excuse.

Most players won't come back to a game they felt wasn't good, beta or no beta. This open beta is effectively using up Dust's precious new car smell and right now it's not even smelling very good.

Was BF3's beta Open for such a long time and any and all progress made during the beta saved onto the final release in addition to people actually PAYING for products in the beta? No. That's because whilst BF3 had an open beta, Dust 514 is just a rushed release with a Beta label on it as an excuse.

Most players won't come back to a game they felt wasn't good, beta or no beta. This open beta is effectively using up Dust's precious new car smell and right now it's not even smelling very good.

Was BF3's beta Open for such a long time and any and all progress made during the beta saved onto the final release in addition to people actually PAYING for products in the beta? No. That's because whilst BF3 had an open beta, Dust 514 is just a rushed release with a Beta label on it as an excuse.

Most players won't come back to a game they felt wasn't good, beta or no beta. This open beta is effectively using up Dust's precious new car smell and right now it's not even smelling very good.

Regardless of how much validity you put on the "beta" tag the game is open to the public for play and discussion. If people don't like the game then they are welcome to voice their opinion. I know plenty of people who have tried the game and don't like it. their reasons are pretty sound.

I think it is pretty telling that many of the people who defend Dust do so by praising what the game will be, not what it is now.

The people that hate it dont understand why its not like COD or BF where when you shoot someone 3-4 times with a submachine gun they die, on this game it takes smarts and skills not just aim and shoot so they dont like it

And don't forget that EVE is 10 years old, and CCP and it's community still don't see it as a finished product

EVE is a completely unique game

dust is an FPS. something that has been beaten to death countless times.

Regardless of how much validity you put on the "beta" tag the game is open to the public for play and discussion. If people don't like the game then they are welcome to voice their opinion. I know plenty of people who have tried the game and don't like it. their reasons are pretty sound.

I think it is pretty telling that many of the people who defend Dust do so by praising what the game will be, not what it is now.

Yeah its open for discussion but discussion isn't whats happening.
People are playing 1 match of it deciding its not like cod and quiting
Then going on websites and bashing a game they know nothing about

Agreed. The issue i have isn't with whether DUST has flaws etc., it's with the total ignorance of some of these reviewers. And it's not just random peeps on youtube either - there are many examples of game journalists reviewing the game with obviously no understanding of the mechanics of the game - playing for hours without customizing a dropsuit fitting or buying and training a skill. Or misunderstanding OBs and precision strikes. Or pay-to-win. The list goes on.

But to balance that I've seen a lot of word-of-mouth giving DUST some very solid PR.

I'd say that on balance, the word-of-mouth is already trumping the ignorance.

Hopefully you're right because I would really like a larger community
The one we r stuck with now reminds me of a daycare/preschool

In all honesty, there's nothing to do right now. The game modes themselves are completely boring and bland. Bungie's Destiny comes out soon with a similar premise and that will be major competition.

We're a year into open beta and the content is barely different than when we started (in many ways it is worse). They'd be better off closing the servers and reopening when there's actually something to do.