DUST Search - Why you shouldn't vote for Black Jackal for CSM 8 to be a Dust 514 ambassador.

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

http://audio.crossingzebras.com/Files/CSM8%20Election%20Interviews_%20Hunter%20Blake.mp3

(Interview starts after the music.)

According to him, your opinion doesn't matter. Only his.

Those of you who don't want to listen...

A short list of things that makes him horrible....

Is not an expert in any one field in eve online or dust 514.
Doesn't remember that 'platform' running is nearly useless in CSM.
Used the word End Game, Eve online doesn't have it, nether should Dust 514.
Thinks Null Sec is one of Dust 514's largest problems.
Thinks you can force players to fight each other.
Wants to train wreck the integration between the two games before either game is ready for it.
Thinks half of you are going to vote for him
Thinks you all can vote for him (requires a eve online paying account to vote)
Wants Walking in Stations Fiasco again... (this nearly caused 10% of eve to quit for good long story short bad expansion)
Is not up to date on Dust 514's biggest problems
Is not up to date on the up and coming features of Dust 514.
Ultra Low Clout Level... Does not socialize at all.
Does not understand nor has done any time on patrol in Eve Online causes Intel nets.
Steals other people's ideas... Particularly the community's compromise of using dusters to capture stations.
Doesn't understand the value of having two separate representatives being healthy for either game as dust 514 players would have lesser ideas on how to fix eve online problems and vice versa.

Mind you the list is short and I trimmed quite a few eve side things out.

Combined with his previous postings at nearly 100% CSM involved/revolved posts it basically means its a fashion show for this super evetard who I hate to say it barely understands EITHER game as it was made painfully obvious from his interview about the eve side problems.

If flying to iceland was not a problem for me (it is thanks alot college...) I would so run in a heart beat and steam roll this guy.

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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 04:37:00 - [1] - Quote http://audio.crossingzebras.com/Files/CSM8%20Election%20Interviews_%20Hunter%20Blake.mp3 (Interview starts after the music.) According to him, your opinion doesn't matter. Only his. Those of you who don't want to listen... A short list of things that makes him horrible.... Is not an expert in any one field in eve online or dust 514. Doesn't remember that 'platform' running is nearly useless in CSM. Used the word End Game, Eve online doesn't have it, nether should Dust 514. Thinks Null Sec is one of Dust 514's largest problems. Thinks you can force players to fight each other. Wants to train wreck the integration between the two games before either game is ready for it. Thinks half of you are going to vote for him Thinks you all can vote for him (requires a eve online paying account to vote) Wants Walking in Stations Fiasco again... (this nearly caused 10% of eve to quit for good long story short bad expansion) Is not up to date on Dust 514's biggest problems Is not up to date on the up and coming features of Dust 514. Ultra Low Clout Level... Does not socialize at all. Does not understand nor has done any time on patrol in Eve Online causes Intel nets. Steals other people's ideas... Particularly the community's compromise of using dusters to capture stations. Doesn't understand the value of having two separate representatives being healthy for either game as dust 514 players would have lesser ideas on how to fix eve online problems and vice versa. Mind you the list is short and I trimmed quite a few eve side things out. Combined with his previous postings at nearly 100% CSM involved/revolved posts it basically means its a fashion show for this super evetard who I hate to say it barely understands EITHER game as it was made painfully obvious from his interview about the eve side problems. If flying to iceland was not a problem for me (it is thanks alot college...) I would so run in a heart beat and steam roll this guy.
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:19:00 - [2] - Quote Bro needs a new mic. The entire cast sounds like he's hissing.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:24:00 - [3] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: Bro needs a new mic. The entire cast sounds like he's hissing. Damn birds got on my nerves...
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:24:00 - [4] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: Bro needs a new mic. The entire cast sounds like he's hissing. It's not that, he's actually an annunaki reptilian shape shifter
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 901	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:24:00 - [5] - Quote I'm not happy with what I heard in Jackal's interview, and do not support him.
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:25:00 - [6] - Quote I will not vote for Black Jackal. Because I do not have an EVE account. Do I?
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 155	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:49:00 - [7] - Quote So you're saying you DON'T want someone who has the knowledge of the average DUST player to represent us?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:50:00 - [8] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: So you're saying you DON'T want someone who has the knowledge of the average DUST player to represent us? More like below beginner knowledge.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 155	Posted - 2013.02.15 06:13:00 - [9] - Quote I feel you know as much about him as you assume he knows about both EVE and DUST. You say he only cares about his own opinion, then you accuse him of stealing ideas, which obviously entails the understanding and approval of an opinion besides his own. Does not socialise at all? That's a personal jab that makes you sound jealous and whiny. And all the things he doesn't know or understand? You make it painfully obvious that you seem to know everything, hence the 'steamrolling'. I'd prefer an ignorant but dedicated representative over someone who sees all others with lesser knowledge as unable to contribute.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1035	Posted - 2013.02.15 08:26:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://audio.crossingzebras.com/Files/CSM8%20Election%20Interviews_%20Hunter%20Blake.mp3 (Interview starts after the music.) According to him, your opinion doesn't matter. Only his. Those of you who don't want to listen... A short list of things that makes him horrible.... Is not an expert in any one field in eve online or dust 514. Doesn't remember that 'platform' running is nearly useless in CSM. Used the word End Game, Eve online doesn't have it, nether should Dust 514. Thinks Null Sec is one of Dust 514's largest problems. Thinks you can force players to fight each other. Wants to train wreck the integration between the two games before either game is ready for it. Thinks half of you are going to vote for him Thinks you all can vote for him (requires a eve online paying account to vote) Wants Walking in Stations Fiasco again... (this nearly caused 10% of eve to quit for good long story short bad expansion) Is not up to date on Dust 514's biggest problems Is not up to date on the up and coming features of Dust 514. Ultra Low Clout Level... Does not socialize at all. Does not understand nor has done any time on patrol in Eve Online causes Intel nets. Steals other people's ideas... Particularly the community's compromise of using dusters to capture stations. Doesn't understand the value of having two separate representatives being healthy for either game as dust 514 players would have lesser ideas on how to fix eve online problems and vice versa. Mind you the list is short and I trimmed quite a few eve side things out. Combined with his previous postings at nearly 100% CSM involved/revolved posts it basically means its a fashion show for this super evetard who I hate to say it barely understands EITHER game as it was made painfully obvious from his interview about the eve side problems. If flying to iceland was not a problem for me (it is thanks alot college...) I would so run in a heart beat and steam roll this guy. QFT

iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.02.15 08:40:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://audio.crossingzebras.com/Files/CSM8%20Election%20Interviews_%20Hunter%20Blake.mp3 (Interview starts after the music.) According to him, your opinion doesn't matter. Only his. Those of you who don't want to listen... A short list of things that makes him horrible.... Is not an expert in any one field in eve online or dust 514. Doesn't remember that 'platform' running is nearly useless in CSM. Used the word End Game, Eve online doesn't have it, nether should Dust 514. Thinks Null Sec is one of Dust 514's largest problems. Thinks you can force players to fight each other. Wants to train wreck the integration between the two games before either game is ready for it. Thinks half of you are going to vote for him Thinks you all can vote for him (requires a eve online paying account to vote) Wants Walking in Stations Fiasco again... (this nearly caused 10% of eve to quit for good long story short bad expansion) Is not up to date on Dust 514's biggest problems Is not up to date on the up and coming features of Dust 514. Ultra Low Clout Level... Does not socialize at all. Does not understand nor has done any time on patrol in Eve Online causes Intel nets. Steals other people's ideas... Particularly the community's compromise of using dusters to capture stations. Doesn't understand the value of having two separate representatives being healthy for either game as dust 514 players would have lesser ideas on how to fix eve online problems and vice versa. Mind you the list is short and I trimmed quite a few eve side things out. Combined with his previous postings at nearly 100% CSM involved/revolved posts it basically means its a fashion show for this super evetard who I hate to say it barely understands EITHER game as it was made painfully obvious from his interview about the eve side problems. If flying to iceland was not a problem for me (it is thanks alot college...) I would so run in a heart beat and steam roll this guy. So basically hes a randoms scrub with unrealistic self efficacy. Yeah I'll pass. Shame your not running Iron Wolf. Your passion for this game is almost palpable.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 136	Posted - 2013.02.15 08:51:00 - [12] - Quote Hmmm interesting.

Doc Kok Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 74	Posted - 2013.02.15 09:09:00 - [13] - Quote Don't worry guys I'll run ;) Free Beers for everyone!
Doc Kok Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 74	Posted - 2013.02.15 09:18:00 - [14] - Quote not quite sure where I was going with that last post but oh well..
Beld Errmon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 479	Posted - 2013.02.15 10:44:00 - [15] - Quote Its easy to throw crap from the sidelines. Any dust player is wasting their time trying for a spot on the CSM, unless they are setting one seat aside for dust and letting us vote the ship spinners are never going to put a dust bunny in.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 11:55:00 - [16] - Quote Doesn't remember that 'platform' running is nearly useless in CSM. - I think you'd be hard pressed to find a SINGLE CSM candidate that doesn't run with a platform of some description. Whether it be specific, or broad. Used the word End Game, Eve online doesn't have it, nether should Dust 514. - In reference to End-Game, the term is used loosely and pertains more to player attitudes than actual game mechanics. Some people believe Nullsec Sovereignty is the pinnacle of EVE Online Life, some believe that making a living Mission Running and Salvaging is the pinnacle. It's their opinions that determine their own 'end-game'. Thinks Null Sec is one of Dust 514's largest problems. - This one confuses me, give me a direct quote when I have ever hinted at such a thing. DUST 514s biggest problems, in my opinion, lie in the fact that our communities are so segregated, due alot in part to people like you, who decide that the communities for two different games, no matter how intertwined the mechanics become, should be treated as completely separate games. Thinks you can force players to fight each other. - Never said you could. I merely want to give them more options in how, and give them more reason to do so. If you give someone reason, there is a greater chance they will fight. I never promised to make conflict happen, I want to give reason for it to happen though. Wants to train wreck the integration between the two games before either game is ready for it. - Releasing the game without the integration I want in the community will be wrose than a train wreck. You believe that I want to ruin the integration? How would bringing these communities together at a tempered pace do such a thing? Thinks half of you are going to vote for him. - How many people do you actually know who are able to, and willing to vote, who are not active on these forums? I never said half would vote, I said the community is split in two. Half seeming to believe representation would be good in EVE Online, and half believing that we need our own council. Never said half would 'vote' for me. Thinks you all can vote for him (requires a eve online paying account to vote) - I am well aware that voting requires a 3 month long subscription to EVE Online. That is why, as a part of my platform, I am attempting to give DUST 514 Players a vote in this, or upcoming, CSM elections. Don't you want the right to chose who represents you? Wants Walking in Stations Fiasco again... (this nearly caused 10% of eve to quit for good long story short bad expansion) - If you had listened, at all, to the interview, you'd understand that was quoted as a metaphorical example, not actually literal. I want players from both games to see each other in the same environments. In the same universe, not as two separate games. Is not up to date on Dust 514's biggest problems - I know DUSTs gameplay issues, I know about bugs, imbalance, and exploits. These are big problems, but my goal is long term. Sustaining this game beyond the average lifespan of a normal FPS. So many games are regarded as 'balanced' to a greater extent than DUST 514... where are they? Over the years, a few 'cult' games have survived, but the majority of FPS games have had to be revamped, redesigned, redistributed as sequels, trilogies, variants, all becuase they ended. They had a shelf-life. The communities died, or got killed by stagnation. Gameplay aside, DUSTs biggest threat is from it's community. Is not up to date on the up and coming features of Dust 514. - I know plenty about what is coming. Through various podcasts, discussions with others who have talked to devs. I would have had chances to talk directly to devs themselves via Skype had my timezone been better placed, but I didn't. I had the topics relayed to me, however, and had my ideas relayed to them. Ultra Low Clout Level... Does not socialize at all. - I'm constantly socializing. I clearly don't in your particular circles, or not enough for you to believe, but guess what. I do have a life beyond the Keyboard, beyond EVE and DUST. I have 2 boys, and a partner that require some of my attention. I have a job, supporting me being a part of the games I love.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 11:56:00 - [17] - Quote Does not understand nor has done any time on patrol in Eve Online causes Intel nets. I spent a long time on patrol for the Northern Coalition. The Intel channels were often flooded too... with [INSERT NAME] nv... [INSERT ANOTHER NAME] nv... This intel is gleaned from local. The ones that give you ship type, heading, etc. They are actual patrols that are out and about, and they should be the ones giving intel. Since that is what they're dedicating their time to doing. Steals other people's ideas... Particularly the community's compromise of using dusters to capture stations. This idea has been around for a while yes... but did anyone actually pitch it to the CSM? Has someone put themselves out there saying 'this is what we can do to get DUST 514 into Nullsecin a meaningful way, as part of a platform running fro CSM? No. All the people who said they'd run... there were multiple candidates, have vanished. Sniping at the current sole runner for the DUST community. Doesn't understand the value of having two separate representatives being healthy for either game as dust 514 players would have lesser ideas on how to fix eve online problems and vice versa. - Having 2 Separate 'Councils' would hurt the integration of the games. DUST would demand one thing of its council and devs, EVE would demand another. You would either have 2 equal councils equal in strength, arguing a case and coming to a compromise that no-one is happy with, or one council will claim and enforce superiority over the other. Ruining the game for the players of that aspect. DUST 514 is an aspect of New Eden. It's not an Add-On to EVE Online, it's a game that shares the Universe CCP has created Now I call upon you to do the same I was asked to do in reverse. Take my Platform. Each and every point, break it down and tell me, and the rest of the community how it WILL NOT benefit EVE Online, or DUST 514 (Policy Specific.) Time to put your money where you mouth is Iron Wolf.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:03:00 - [18] - Quote I encourage everyone to listen to the Interview. Make up your own mind about my platform, EVE Player's opinions, and how I would represent DUST 514.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 153	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:15:00 - [19] - Quote Now this is getting interesting... Starts to seem to me like there is some sort of a personal feud between the two. Squints For now, I will take neither side, because I didn't listen to the podcast yet and can't decide whether Jackal's justifications are true or not. Let's see how this situation will turn out.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 144	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:23:00 - [20] - Quote Jackal rofl you cant have a life AND run for this

Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 102	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:30:00 - [21] - Quote The more i read about this 'DUST CSM' the more i really dont want it because we dont have a candidate who is good enough to run for CSM to begin with
The Loathing The Southern Legion 21	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:33:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://audio.crossingzebras.com/Files/CSM8%20Election%20Interviews_%20Hunter%20Blake.mp3 (Interview starts after the music.) According to him, your opinion doesn't matter. Only his. Those of you who don't want to listen... A short list of things that makes him horrible.... Is not an expert in any one field in eve online or dust 514. Doesn't remember that 'platform' running is nearly useless in CSM. Used the word End Game, Eve online doesn't have it, nether should Dust 514. Thinks Null Sec is one of Dust 514's largest problems. Thinks you can force players to fight each other. Wants to train wreck the integration between the two games before either game is ready for it. Thinks half of you are going to vote for him Thinks you all can vote for him (requires a eve online paying account to vote) Wants Walking in Stations Fiasco again... (this nearly caused 10% of eve to quit for good long story short bad expansion) Is not up to date on Dust 514's biggest problems Is not up to date on the up and coming features of Dust 514. Ultra Low Clout Level... Does not socialize at all. Does not understand nor has done any time on patrol in Eve Online causes Intel nets. Steals other people's ideas... Particularly the community's compromise of using dusters to capture stations. Doesn't understand the value of having two separate representatives being healthy for either game as dust 514 players would have lesser ideas on how to fix eve online problems and vice versa. Mind you the list is short and I trimmed quite a few eve side things out. Combined with his previous postings at nearly 100% CSM involved/revolved posts it basically means its a fashion show for this super evetard who I hate to say it barely understands EITHER game as it was made painfully obvious from his interview about the eve side problems. If flying to iceland was not a problem for me (it is thanks alot college...) I would so run in a heart beat and steam roll this guy. In all honesty, this thread is the vindictive plight of someone who is not even running for the position. How about instead we hear from someone who ACTUALLY HAS an interest in the position and presents alternatives rather than slander?
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:37:00 - [23] - Quote Bad form Iron Wolf. Very bad. I have a huge problem with the "don't vote for so and so" attitude. It's terrible, even if Jackal is a uninformed as your post says. You should recommend reasons to vote for others, instead of just slating someone. Atleast, "so and so would be a better CSM member than so and so". I might have to run for CSM at this rate. I'd be awesomes. Best reason to not vote for someone? Because you're voting for awesome Tony :P
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 901	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:42:00 - [24] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Its easy to throw crap from the sidelines. Any dust player is wasting their time trying for a spot on the CSM, unless they are setting one seat aside for dust and letting us vote the ship spinners are never going to put a dust bunny in. Why would one person be enough to represent all of Dust? Especially if that person thinks looking to formalize the Dust community representation is a waste of time? I think that having a crossover candidate on the CSM and someone who could be a Dust ambassador is good, but we need to work towards something more. Dust could easily and probably will have a larger base population than Eve. It deserves its own council yet Jackal comes out specifically against the Council of Planetary Management that players are trying to set up to give Dust the representation it deserves. Representation that can't be interfered with by Eve pilots that have no investment in Dust. In the story of New Eden we are one universe but in the reality of life we have a development team in Shanghai and one in Iceland for two separate games that need to be able to stand on their own while we look to having the interactions grow in a mutually beneficial way over time.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:48:00 - [25] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: The more i read about this 'DUST CSM' the more i really dont want it because we dont have a candidate who is good enough to run for CSM to begin with Once again, I have no opinion on this matter. But I would like to say this- do you actually have any idea what's happening or who these people are, or are you just getting all of your information from a couple of threads?
Liner ReXiandra Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 16	Posted - 2013.02.15 12:58:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: meaningless drivel Go draw some more spaceship concepts in your school notebooks mate.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 102	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:04:00 - [27] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: The more i read about this 'DUST CSM' the more i really dont want it because we dont have a candidate who is good enough to run for CSM to begin with Once again, I have no opinion on this matter. But I would like to say this- do you actually have any idea what's happening or who these people are, or are you just getting all of your information from a couple of threads? Yup i know whats happening
Deadeyes Anterie Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION 269	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:26:00 - [28] - Quote Well now it's a really tricky situation because as he said in the interview the Dust community is split over how it should be best represented. There are those who think a spot on the CSM is the right call, and others (like myself) who think a separate leadership council would be best. If you honestly think Dust on the CSM is a good idea, and that the two games are equal then we should be running seven dust candidates, but everyone knows that would be beyond insane. The two games are not equal at the moment, and it seems like everyone is saying just give them one spot on the council. I don't know how having 1/14 say in anything is going to be useful or constructive, and having 13/14 people on the leadership council only having knowledge of EvE is going to provide pretty poor overall representation to the Dust players. It would be interesting to know what percentage of the community stands behind a duster on the CSM vs. the CPM. I suspect it's not as close to 50/50 as you suggested in the podcast.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:28:00 - [29] - Quote Liner ReXiandra wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: meaningless drivel Go draw some more spaceship concepts in your school notebooks mate. Sorry I am busy doing a in game job normally slated for an elected CSM here such as: Taking Dust 514community concerns and giving them to CCP when they do show up in the IRC channel, this includes staying up late to catch them at lunch time in CCP Shanghai. Helping Dust 514 players immigrate into the world of New Eden. Debating how to fix things in terms of balance and broken features with other peers before presentation to CCP. Drafting the white papers involving the dust 514's involvement in such type of council. Over Testing Dust 514. That's why my last picture is probably that Caldari crusader suit from half a year ago, normally I be pumping pictures out once a week but because I am so busy doing CSM-like things I barely have time between that college homework and RL stuff that needs my attention. Maybe when the game is out of development crunch time I could return to doing these but not any time soon. Accomplishments so far? I don't take sole credit for the following accomplishments.... Helped Returned Militia gear BPs to the market. Made Tanks a squad/infantry support weapon, This was back when CCP thought tanks did NOT need infantry support at all. Dust 514 Corps was probably the largest and most notable feature that 'CPM 0.0' was directly responsible for. CCP had this feature scheduled originally for summer 2013, in other words no imperfects to be whining about, no stb, no southern cross/legion. Suggestions that you can blame me for (though evidence of it being used hasn't surfaced yet) 101 Bullets Active Passive Certificate System Evidence of the above are on CCP's Radar 20+ Hours of Community Service by providing help sessions in local. Assisting with Uprising Events https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=58469&find=unread and https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=56903 Answering Eve player's questions on the eve online forums https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=3172 Unrecorded number of hours of assisting players on the forums and IRC channels. If you do a post search you will find out majority of my posts are information relay, answering questions, and community building. Sure my earliest of posts I was stumbling quite a bit and rightly deserved to been called an eve tard back then. Few months of beta abuse and well I am a certified bunny now. So there you have it. I do the talk and run the walk. I would like to thank betamax this level of freedom and allowing me to have a bad KDR because I want to see what the exact problem is with whatever weapon I feel like testing that day. The IRC crew for helping me keep in the loop. Dust 514 CPM to bring the larger ideas together for the day we would be doing the elections and just about everyone else here that makes reading the forums a daily joy.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 153	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:34:00 - [30] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Bad form Iron Wolf. Very bad. I have a huge problem with the "don't vote for so and so" attitude. It's terrible, even if Jackal is a uninformed as your post says. You should recommend reasons to vote for others, instead of just slating someone. Atleast, "so and so would be a better CSM member than so and so". I might have to run for CSM at this rate. I'd be awesomes. Best reason to not vote for someone? Because you're voting for awesome Tony :P QFT. Anyways, just listened to the podcast and have a question for the OP. Iron Wolf, what has this man done to you? What connection is there between you and Jackal that causes you to be so one-sided and aggressive in your opinion on his campaign? I have almost nothing in the interview that you drew your conclusions based on. Endgame issue? Saw many people here referring to 'endgame' as null sec, and the reasoning for endgame being different for everyone seems fine to me. Didn't see anything about half of the population voting either. Jackal, in fact, seemed to have knowledge of Dusters' inability to vote for the CSM, thus he even offered the Aurum package to allow them to buy their right to vote. These are just few examples, I could go on and on. There are certainly flaws in his campaign, but it is obvious that you can't satisfy everyone. While I don't agree with his point that Dust shouldn't have its own council, I believe it is a must to have our representative in the EVE CSM. And if that wouldn't be the case, I'd be entirely on his side, just because you were in such a hurry to unreasonably attack him. Overall, I'm not surprised to see you hastily making biased and unsupported assumptions, Iron Wolf. You've done it before. But this... Seems like, for the most part, you are making a mountain out of a molehill without even a molehill to begin with.



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