DUST Search - Why you shouldn't vote for Black Jackal for CSM 8 to be a Dust 514 ambassador.

The Black Jackal wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

To Nex.

The problem is that Jackal is nearly incapable of listening. You can't be a good leader if you can't listen at all. The one time the one time he showed up in the IRC channels to talk to the IRC crew and CPM he basically said dust 514's biggest problem is that null sec space in eve has no wars. I tore him a new one on that and he then replies that we're a bunch of separaists which is entirely untrue at all. We just don't want both games to train wreck into each other.

Hans understood our plights much better, because I can see him throwing the controller at the screen just like any one of us could have. He expressed his opinion in a very open and debatable manner, presented well, background well, and fit right in among us.

Overall he's rude, ego-inflated, generates the vibe that dust 514'ers are second class citizens, and what pisses me off more than anything his eve side ideas are absolutely without thought and nearly idiotic, which means he hasn't done enough 0.0 to understand 0.0.

I've done the null sec WARs for 2 years in Eve, though tactics and ships change, I know the issues out there.

First off, I have shown up on the IRC channel multiple times. Secondly, produce exact logs to back up your claim that I said Null Sec was the biggest problem for DUST... I never once said that.

What actually happened, was that I was accosted the moment I got on, and asked about the null sec portion of my candidacy post. I answered, and Iron Wolf Saber came on as I was answering this query. Thus to his view, he believed I was immediately arguing for EVE-side and not DUST. Not once have I ever said Null sec was the biggest issue facing DUST.

And you still have yet to answer my challenge. Pull apart my platform. Tell me why most of the Ideeas WILL NOT work.

And while you're at it. Find me a successful CSM Elected Candidate that ddn't have any kind of platform.


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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 04:37:00 - [1] - Quote http://audio.crossingzebras.com/Files/CSM8%20Election%20Interviews_%20Hunter%20Blake.mp3 (Interview starts after the music.) According to him, your opinion doesn't matter. Only his. Those of you who don't want to listen... A short list of things that makes him horrible.... Is not an expert in any one field in eve online or dust 514. Doesn't remember that 'platform' running is nearly useless in CSM. Used the word End Game, Eve online doesn't have it, nether should Dust 514. Thinks Null Sec is one of Dust 514's largest problems. Thinks you can force players to fight each other. Wants to train wreck the integration between the two games before either game is ready for it. Thinks half of you are going to vote for him Thinks you all can vote for him (requires a eve online paying account to vote) Wants Walking in Stations Fiasco again... (this nearly caused 10% of eve to quit for good long story short bad expansion) Is not up to date on Dust 514's biggest problems Is not up to date on the up and coming features of Dust 514. Ultra Low Clout Level... Does not socialize at all. Does not understand nor has done any time on patrol in Eve Online causes Intel nets. Steals other people's ideas... Particularly the community's compromise of using dusters to capture stations. Doesn't understand the value of having two separate representatives being healthy for either game as dust 514 players would have lesser ideas on how to fix eve online problems and vice versa. Mind you the list is short and I trimmed quite a few eve side things out. Combined with his previous postings at nearly 100% CSM involved/revolved posts it basically means its a fashion show for this super evetard who I hate to say it barely understands EITHER game as it was made painfully obvious from his interview about the eve side problems. If flying to iceland was not a problem for me (it is thanks alot college...) I would so run in a heart beat and steam roll this guy.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:24:00 - [2] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: Bro needs a new mic. The entire cast sounds like he's hissing. Damn birds got on my nerves...
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 05:50:00 - [3] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: So you're saying you DON'T want someone who has the knowledge of the average DUST player to represent us? More like below beginner knowledge.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:28:00 - [4] - Quote Liner ReXiandra wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: meaningless drivel Go draw some more spaceship concepts in your school notebooks mate. Sorry I am busy doing a in game job normally slated for an elected CSM here such as: Taking Dust 514community concerns and giving them to CCP when they do show up in the IRC channel, this includes staying up late to catch them at lunch time in CCP Shanghai. Helping Dust 514 players immigrate into the world of New Eden. Debating how to fix things in terms of balance and broken features with other peers before presentation to CCP. Drafting the white papers involving the dust 514's involvement in such type of council. Over Testing Dust 514. That's why my last picture is probably that Caldari crusader suit from half a year ago, normally I be pumping pictures out once a week but because I am so busy doing CSM-like things I barely have time between that college homework and RL stuff that needs my attention. Maybe when the game is out of development crunch time I could return to doing these but not any time soon. Accomplishments so far? I don't take sole credit for the following accomplishments.... Helped Returned Militia gear BPs to the market. Made Tanks a squad/infantry support weapon, This was back when CCP thought tanks did NOT need infantry support at all. Dust 514 Corps was probably the largest and most notable feature that 'CPM 0.0' was directly responsible for. CCP had this feature scheduled originally for summer 2013, in other words no imperfects to be whining about, no stb, no southern cross/legion. Suggestions that you can blame me for (though evidence of it being used hasn't surfaced yet) 101 Bullets Active Passive Certificate System Evidence of the above are on CCP's Radar 20+ Hours of Community Service by providing help sessions in local. Assisting with Uprising Events https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=58469&find=unread and https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=56903 Answering Eve player's questions on the eve online forums https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=3172 Unrecorded number of hours of assisting players on the forums and IRC channels. If you do a post search you will find out majority of my posts are information relay, answering questions, and community building. Sure my earliest of posts I was stumbling quite a bit and rightly deserved to been called an eve tard back then. Few months of beta abuse and well I am a certified bunny now. So there you have it. I do the talk and run the walk. I would like to thank betamax this level of freedom and allowing me to have a bad KDR because I want to see what the exact problem is with whatever weapon I feel like testing that day. The IRC crew for helping me keep in the loop. Dust 514 CPM to bring the larger ideas together for the day we would be doing the elections and just about everyone else here that makes reading the forums a daily joy.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:44:00 - [5] - Quote To Nex. The problem is that Jackal is nearly incapable of listening. You can't be a good leader if you can't listen at all. The one time the one time he showed up in the IRC channels to talk to the IRC crew and CPM he basically said dust 514's biggest problem is that null sec space in eve has no wars. I tore him a new one on that and he then replies that we're a bunch of separaists which is entirely untrue at all. We just don't want both games to train wreck into each other. Hans understood our plights much better, because I can see him throwing the controller at the screen just like any one of us could have. He expressed his opinion in a very open and debatable manner, presented well, background well, and fit right in among us. Overall he's rude, ego-inflated, generates the vibe that dust 514'ers are second class citizens, and what pisses me off more than anything his eve side ideas are absolutely without thought and nearly idiotic, which means he hasn't done enough 0.0 to understand 0.0. I've done the null sec WARs for 2 years in Eve, though tactics and ships change, I know the issues out there.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 13:49:00 - [6] - Quote A Voice InTheCrowd wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: It would be interesting to know what percentage of the community stands behind a duster on the CSM vs. the CPM. I suspect it's not as close to 50/50 as you suggested in the podcast. Why should it be one or the other? This is from the white paper drafting I talked about earlier. Council of Planetary Management v0.0 strongly believes that dust needs its own council because they would be more attune with the player base and that the simple fact dust 514 players are not eve players, and not everyone can be an eve player. The separate council would then nominate an ambassador to take an exchange chair on the csm so the member will answer to their calls, attend their functions, and fly to iceland, while a csm ambassador to the dust council will take a seat and fulfill the roles on that council and flying to shanghai instead. As for the voter thing earlier its becoming a worst case scenario to figure it out. Ideally every active player would have a voice and fraud would be impossible. However we all know how big of a fantasy that is. Also buying votes I feel is a very disenfranchising a bit. This is still under heavy debate for the pre-draft white papers.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:20:00 - [7] - Quote Right now we're much better off electing a FW candidate and then advising him as a community and continuously drag him in our end of the pool. As others said the biggest problem is we don't have any other choices for 'dust 514' yet, a dictator by default is something I don't want to see happen. Because if you look around you will see there are other players in dust 514 that are far more qualified than jackal or even myself even to run for CSM. So until another candidate comes in here and is more proper than jackal to destroy him, someone here has to run a counter campaign.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:22:00 - [8] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: To Nex. The problem is that Jackal is nearly incapable of listening. You can't be a good leader if you can't listen at all. The one time the one time he showed up in the IRC channels to talk to the IRC crew and CPM he basically said dust 514's biggest problem is that null sec space in eve has no wars. I tore him a new one on that and he then replies that we're a bunch of separaists which is entirely untrue at all. We just don't want both games to train wreck into each other. Hans understood our plights much better, because I can see him throwing the controller at the screen just like any one of us could have. He expressed his opinion in a very open and debatable manner, presented well, background well, and fit right in among us. Overall he's rude, ego-inflated, generates the vibe that dust 514'ers are second class citizens, and what pisses me off more than anything his eve side ideas are absolutely without thought and nearly idiotic, which means he hasn't done enough 0.0 to understand 0.0. I've done the null sec WARs for 2 years in Eve, though tactics and ships change, I know the issues out there. First off, I have shown up on the IRC channel multiple times. Secondly, produce exact logs to back up your claim that I said Null Sec was the biggest problem for DUST... I never once said that. What actually happened, was that I was accosted the moment I got on, and asked about the null sec portion of my candidacy post. I answered, and Iron Wolf Saber came on as I was answering this query. Thus to his view, he believed I was immediately arguing for EVE-side and not DUST. Not once have I ever said Null sec was the biggest issue facing DUST. And you still have yet to answer my challenge. Pull apart my platform. Tell me why most of the Ideeas WILL NOT work. And while you're at it. Find me a successful CSM Elected Candidate that ddn't have any kind of platform. Then why are you not in the shark tank now? You're not even in the public dust 514 channel. Coward.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:25:00 - [9] - Quote That sir is a futile exercise as you proven in the past. Hence the inability to listen. Also if you're so good why don't you produce the logs?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 14:43:00 - [10] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: That sir is a futile exercise as you proven in the past. Hence the inability to listen. Also if you're so good why don't you produce the logs? I am not the one who made the accusations. It lies in the hands of the accuser, not the accused to produce proof. And you have not once actually stated why my ideas, expanded or not, would be bad for the community on any level that gave me no room to rise above it with justifiable arguments. It's your job to keep your record unattackable. Not mine. Failing first rule of intergalactic politics. Go hire a staff.

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:20:00 - [11] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Tony Calif wrote: Bad form Iron Wolf. Very bad. I have a huge problem with the "don't vote for so and so" attitude. It's terrible, even if Jackal is a uninformed as your post says. You should recommend reasons to vote for others, instead of just slating someone. Atleast, "so and so would be a better CSM member than so and so". I might have to run for CSM at this rate. I'd be awesomes. Best reason to not vote for someone? Because you're voting for awesome Tony :P ...............................................................damn...............im sold......where do i vote?! Tony California would make a better candidate, if he had a chance in eve though.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:41:00 - [12] - Quote Well then, I welcome you to crash and burn politics, better learn how to hit the ground running.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:56:00 - [13] - Quote Its not a leadership, its communication channel of players to the developers of the game. Which is why separate councils are more necessary. If I were to be seated, I have no power over ANY of you folks out there, instead I would be more of your slave instead in terms of relationships. My job if I was a Dust csm member would be to listen to the developers, give the developers a sampling of the community's thoughts on any feature and when given the blank paper give them a broad idea since it is not my job to do the nitty gritty details. Then after all is said and done, take what has been shared, discussed, and make it digestible for the community.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 16:28:00 - [14] - Quote I apologize just its hard to describe Jackal in few words and resorted to using a word the dust 514 community is very familiar with. The counter-campaign is not the only thing I have to deal with. As for evidence, Jackal keeps good track of it himself.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.15 17:17:00 - [15] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I apologize just its hard to describe Jackal in few words and resorted to using a word the dust 514 community is very familiar with. The counter-campaign is not the only thing I have to deal with. As for evidence, Jackal keeps good track of it himself. I'd rather have zion shaddy for csm at least he fakes knowing wtf he is talking about better than BJ And at least Zion has a very damned good idea wtf is wrong with dust 514 for the shooting community.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.16 03:56:00 - [16] - Quote "EVE players deciding the fate of DUST players." - The Black Jackal Bumper sticker material right there. A divider of nations if I didn't know any better.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.16 04:18:00 - [17] - Quote ImperfectFan514 wrote: so i'm under the impression that people who are bad at the game run for CSM so they can feel important? Somebody please correct me if i'm wrong. You get two internet cookies. 95% of the candidates usually run for the mentioned reason. Nearly 100% of them lose or get fired. The other 5% that absolutely love the game with a passion and actually care and nurture the game every way they can are typically elected, thank god.