It would be interesting to know what percentage of the community stands behind a duster on the CSM vs. the CPM. I suspect it's not as close to 50/50 as you suggested in the podcast.

Why should it be one or the other?

Why should it be one or the other?

To Nex.

The problem is that Jackal is nearly incapable of listening. You can't be a good leader if you can't listen at all. The one time the one time he showed up in the IRC channels to talk to the IRC crew and CPM he basically said dust 514's biggest problem is that null sec space in eve has no wars. I tore him a new one on that and he then replies that we're a bunch of separaists which is entirely untrue at all. We just don't want both games to train wreck into each other.

Hans understood our plights much better, because I can see him throwing the controller at the screen just like any one of us could have. He expressed his opinion in a very open and debatable manner, presented well, background well, and fit right in among us.

Overall he's rude, ego-inflated, generates the vibe that dust 514'ers are second class citizens, and what pisses me off more than anything his eve side ideas are absolutely without thought and nearly idiotic, which means he hasn't done enough 0.0 to understand 0.0.

I've done the null sec WARs for 2 years in Eve, though tactics and ships change, I know the issues out there.

To Nex.

The problem is that Jackal is nearly incapable of listening. You can't be a good leader if you can't listen at all. The one time the one time he showed up in the IRC channels to talk to the IRC crew and CPM he basically said dust 514's biggest problem is that null sec space in eve has no wars. I tore him a new one on that and he then replies that we're a bunch of separaists which is entirely untrue at all. We just don't want both games to train wreck into each other.

Hans understood our plights much better, because I can see him throwing the controller at the screen just like any one of us could have. He expressed his opinion in a very open and debatable manner, presented well, background well, and fit right in among us.

Overall he's rude, ego-inflated, generates the vibe that dust 514'ers are second class citizens, and what pisses me off more than anything his eve side ideas are absolutely without thought and nearly idiotic, which means he hasn't done enough 0.0 to understand 0.0.

I've done the null sec WARs for 2 years in Eve, though tactics and ships change, I know the issues out there.

First off, I have shown up on the IRC channel multiple times. Secondly, produce exact logs to back up your claim that I said Null Sec was the biggest problem for DUST... I never once said that.

What actually happened, was that I was accosted the moment I got on, and asked about the null sec portion of my candidacy post. I answered, and Iron Wolf Saber came on as I was answering this query. Thus to his view, he believed I was immediately arguing for EVE-side and not DUST. Not once have I ever said Null sec was the biggest issue facing DUST.

And you still have yet to answer my challenge. Pull apart my platform. Tell me why most of the Ideeas WILL NOT work.

And while you're at it. Find me a successful CSM Elected Candidate that ddn't have any kind of platform.

Dust has essentially nothing to do with EVE at this point, and is an incredibly simple game. Dust does not require representation on the CSM. Simple, unfinished games like Dust can be handled very easily by CCP. Anyone who is foolish enough to try and campaign for CSM with the assumption that they'll "represent Dust" is automatically someone you know is unsuitable for the CSM, as they are very clearly lacking in even the most rudimentary understanding of what the CSM is for, and how Dust has no need of representation on it at this time, or perhaps ever.

Then why are you not in the shark tank now? You're not even in the public dust 514 channel. Coward.

That sir is a futile exercise as you proven in the past. Hence the inability to listen.

Also if you're so good why don't you produce the logs?

I am not the one who made the accusations. It lies in the hands of the accuser, not the accused to produce proof.

And you have not once actually stated why my ideas, expanded or not, would be bad for the community on any level that gave me no room to rise above it with justifiable arguments.

Bad form Iron Wolf. Very bad.

I have a huge problem with the "don't vote for so and so" attitude. It's terrible, even if Jackal is a uninformed as your post says.

You should recommend reasons to vote for others, instead of just slating someone. Atleast, "so and so would be a better CSM member than so and so".

I might have to run for CSM at this rate. I'd be awesomes. Best reason to not vote for someone? Because you're voting for awesome Tony :P

...............................................................damn...............im sold......where do i vote?!

It's your job to keep your record unattackable. Not mine. Failing first rule of intergalactic politics. Go hire a staff.

Pretty sure I made mention I'm not a politician. I can't lie worth a damn, and my missus will attest to that.

I'm a person who plays EVE, and DUST, and who wants to represent DUST to the CSM and integrate it further into EVE Online.

I know about DUST, I know about EVE, I have proven this is multiple forum posts, a few podcast interviews, and podcasts I co-hosted.

People say they don't want an EVE player representing them now. With the imminent release of the DUST / EVE Link CSM Winter Summit Minutes... who do you think represented DUST interests in an EVE player exclusive CSM?

In all honesty, this thread is the vindictive plight of someone who is not even running for the position. How about instead we hear from someone who ACTUALLY HAS an interest in the position and presents alternatives rather than slander?

I don't understand why DUST and EVE shouldn't have separate leadership, at least at the get-go.

DUST is still in early beta, and right now our community is not very cohesive. If we tried a joint leadership with EVE Online (read: CCP's cash cow) then we'd just be smooshed.

Having a separated leadership structure, at least until DUST gets on its feet, would be more ideal, because that way it would be DUST players talking about DUST things, and not EVE players deigning to spend a bit of their valuable time on issues that would not even affect them. I don't see how such arbitrary leadership is a good thing for this game.

I do not want an EVE player with DUST experience representing me. I want a DUST player as my leadership.

Once DUST is fully built, and the games are fully integrated, then the two communities can see about instituting some sort of joint-leadership structure, either by extending ambassadorship to CSM/CPM candidates, or by having joint-council sessions to discuss issues and topics that affect both games.

I don't understand why DUST and EVE shouldn't have separate leadership, at least at the get-go.

DUST is still in early beta, and right now our community is not very cohesive. If we tried a joint leadership with EVE Online (read: CCP's cash cow) then we'd just be smooshed.

Having a separated leadership structure, at least until DUST gets on its feet, would be more ideal, because that way it would be DUST players talking about DUST things, and not EVE players deigning to spend a bit of their valuable time on issues that would not even affect them. I don't see how such arbitrary leadership is a good thing for this game.

I do not want an EVE player with DUST experience representing me. I want a DUST player as my leadership.

Once DUST is fully built, and the games are fully integrated, then the two communities can see about instituting some sort of joint-leadership structure, either by extending ambassadorship to CSM/CPM candidates, or by having joint-council sessions to discuss issues and topics that affect both games.

I am not the one who made the accusations. It lies in the hands of the accuser, not the accused to produce proof.

And you have not once actually stated why my ideas, expanded or not, would be bad for the community on any level that gave me no room to rise above it with justifiable arguments.

I apologize just its hard to describe Jackal in few words and resorted to using a word the dust 514 community is very familiar with. The counter-campaign is not the only thing I have to deal with.

As for evidence, Jackal keeps good track of it himself.