I'd rather have zion shaddy for csm at least he fakes knowing wtf he is talking about better than BJ

Dust has essentially nothing to do with EVE at this point, and is an incredibly simple game. Dust does not require representation on the CSM. Simple, unfinished games like Dust can be handled very easily by CCP. Anyone who is foolish enough to try and campaign for CSM with the assumption that they'll "represent Dust" is automatically someone you know is unsuitable for the CSM, as they are very clearly lacking in even the most rudimentary understanding of what the CSM is for, and how Dust has no need of representation on it at this time, or perhaps ever.

The more i read about this 'DUST CSM' the more i really dont want it because we dont have a candidate who is good enough to run for CSM to begin with

Is walking in a station that bad?

Um, I am lost on a lot of this as I have no interest in playing Eve, so I dunno what the hell you are talking about with all of the 0.0 and whatnot. However, I loves me some politicking.

So, I have but one point to put forward. In the judicial legal system, it is the burden of the accuser to prove guilt in the accused, and the accused is innocent until proven guilty. That's just the way it is.

THIS however is not in the legal system. THIS is DUST forum law. Which basically means you are being judged without a formal set of guidelines for judging your cases. If you have a claim against you, it will remain an unproven but non-disprovable fact until the accused or the accuser points to evidence proving their case.

Slander works VERY well here since there are no legal systems that govern our environment here. Things in the forums tend to be a lot more tribal then democratic, in case you hadn't noticed. People will believe whomever they feel they trust more until evidence is presented to prove one side or the other is correct. Many people will be of the opinion that proof will be needed to sway them, but I would imagine a fair chunk would be swayed by other things. such as with a well thought out post explaining their side of things, or a snarky comeback to a gibe made at your expense. Remember, this is a far more primitive system than you might wish it to be since there is no one to enforce how people will come up with a verdict.



To Jackal: Might want to start popping out some logs if you indeed have proof to show that you are being falsely accused, otherwise it will remain with you. Kinda like a grease smear you can wipe at all day but you can never make it go away entirely.



To Iron Wolf: You might want to start keeping tabs on evidence for these claims you are making, as it will make your case stand on much firmer ground in the next sitting.


To both of you: Please refrain from personal attacks as they make you look immature. I am aware that getting emotional about a topic can make you irrational in your writing and responses, but if you wish to be taken seriously refrain from personal attacks as they are petty and have no bearing on the topic.


~Overlord

QFT!!!!!

Like seriously guys we are in F'in beta!!!!

Like what Fivetimes has said, CSM is for EVE! It should never be about dust because that not what it was meant for.

CCP has even stated that it doesn't want any Dust bunny to run for CSM for the exact reason above.

Seriously a monkey is a better candidate that you Jackal.

All these people running for CSM for dust are so selfish and are only in it for themselves. They don't even know anything about EVE to begin with and hardly know anything about Dust in its self. Playing a game doesn't mean you know the in and outs of everything or anything. Just means you play the game.

Seriously all these candidates have been an utter joke!

CSM members have SAID and I have quoted this multiple times, that a DUST representative would be USEFUL with the discussions that the CSM have had over the INTEGRATION of DUST into EVE. The Minutes are still pending release, but Hans has himself stated that it was a very hotly debated topic.

Those of you who insist on sayign that the CSM should only be for EVE clearly have as little concept for research and lack of commuinication within the community as you accuse me of having. I have even, on a few occasions, quote directly from previous posts, topics, and given references to back up my claims, only to get vehement denials of what has been said as fact.

So far, no CCP representative has told me not to run, despite having ample opportunity. CCP didn't want us to have corps pre-release either (as pointed out by my good friend Iron Wolf) butthat happened. Multiple sources from EVE Community believe this would be a good idea at the very least to have 1/14th of the CSM able to represent the DUST 514 Community.

DUST 514 is being debated by the current CSM, so your arguments that the CSM is onlt for EVE, are irrelevant. If they ARE discussing something, they are having input to CCP about it. And aaccording to so many previous complaints about the CSM, this is exactly what the DUST community didn't want.

EVE players deciding the fate of DUST players.

Argue all you want against my candidacy, or my platform. But stop denying that even at this point in time, the community of DUST needs representation on the CSM.

so i'm under the impression that people who are bad at the game run for CSM so they can feel important? Somebody please correct me if i'm wrong.