i'd rather enjoy an exploration like that, since it would be a nice break from fighting other players. we'd even have a chance to get some nice temporary gear, or blueprint salvage to make a stack of weapons from [those salvaged prints would NEED to degrade a little after every use, so make growth still important].

i would rather be sad to give up my assault suit, but i understand the need... but only a side arm? a single SMG against well armed intrastellar pirates? gotta be something better, i'd think a light slot only, since you need a weapon with punch if you're taking on people that ambush others for a living

Why would we need a dedicated Exploration Dropsuit? Couldn't we just use a logi suit with scan mods?

Well technically yes we could. But look at it this way, they're supposed to be coming out with a Pilot's Dropsuit for us crazy people in the whirly-birds so why not make a suit for the exploration guy?

Adds more variety and it would help people with specialized roles. I know that I for one would definetly spec into that Pilot suit and Exploration suit if either of them ever come out. I like how these roles sound and I'm very keep on seeing whether or not CCP will try something like this in the future.

Well technically yes we could. But look at it this way, they're supposed to be coming out with a Pilot's Dropsuit for us crazy people in the whirly-birds so why not make a suit for the exploration guy?

Adds more variety and it would help people with specialized roles. I know that I for one would definetly spec into that Pilot suit and Exploration suit if either of them ever come out. I like how these roles sound and I'm very keep on seeing whether or not CCP will try something like this in the future.

OK, I see your point now. So the heavy suit has the best armour, the scout suit has the best speed, and the exploration suit would have the best scan precision(?)

alalkit. few game have non combat gaming. its something that i would like to see. and while we're at it, how about building up defenses and the like

there is a lot they can do but there is a lot they can't do I want PVE and many of your ideas seem fun.

the problem I would have with PVP is how would they get to you? look at dust right now, how do we get to different system? teleport? will we have to have "set destination" and after X amount of time we are in that system? chances are we will simply just be every where at once.

for PVP, if I am doing exploration how do they find me? scan me down and try and take the loot? that is silly as dieing would mean little loss either way
randomly appear in a queue? sorta like what we have now but puts you in someone elses scan site... that's dumb as it makes it ungodly easy.

Honestly, at this point in time, PVP in dust should be done on the battlefield, not elsewhere.

I approve. I personally love preparing for some kind of "oncoming storm" either literal or metaphorical.

While we're talking about exploration and mining, what about salvaging? Going into an area where there's just been a battle, and picking the wreckage clean. Could make for some tense standoffs between scavengers if there's been an especially big fight.

While we're talking about exploration and mining, what about salvaging? Going into an area where there's just been a battle, and picking the wreckage clean. Could make for some tense standoffs between scavengers if there's been an especially big fight.

If there was something like a salvage class who could run around a battlefield (either during or after the battle in question) and loot the bodies and wrecks of vehicles for interesting stuff ... the game would have to stop letting dead clones vanish off the field.

on Salvage mode. two squads. make it up to them if hostlie or not. proxity vioce between the two. lets them work out a deal, 50/50 or we shoot you, type deals. put a CRU far away for each squad. the maps could be large wastelands that had a battle on some time ago. this makes it feel like each squad has enough room to stay away each other or hunt them down.

How about having jump clones or bases? We could very easily have an EVE player give out contracts to fulfil duties that they are incapable of doing. The way I see it:
- EVE player sets up contract.
- DUST player accepts contract.
- EVE player either flies to, or is already at, the destination. Here, they would drop what I will refer to as a "jump beacon".
- DUST player warps to jump beacon.

Sounds a little basic sure but even for no player involvement such as a "quick match" then a beacon could just be set up on the nearest planet (as long as the DUST player could fund it) and the expedition could give lesser rewards than if you worked with a player as, quite obviously, you wouldn't be getting the contract payout!

dust players shouldn't have to rely on eve players, it's a bad mechanic for us. first off there will almost definitely be more dust players than eve players, it's going to be terrible to have to rely on them to move.

2nd the average eve player isn't going to courier contract a dust player and if they do I can imagine it costing to much to be effective, this mans the average duster will be stuck in the starting area for weeks.

The dead clones/vehicles could still vanish, but some of their gear would remain. Like the old Medal of Honor games, when you killed a guy his body disappeared but his weapon was still there.



What I was picturing was more of a free-for-all situation, where you show up alone or with your squad/corp, and there's a bunch of other squads on the field.

I dont think battles in New Eden have limited to the stars. normal humans have fought on the ground before. and Eve ship crash, right? so dust merc could find said crashes, fight over it and sell eve ship parts back to the eve players.

*goes to EVE forums*
*sees that cheap starship modules are worth 500 000 ISK*

Gentlemen, I think we can work out an agreement. *loads scrambler pistol under the table*

dust players shouldn't have to rely on eve players, it's a bad mechanic for us. first off there will almost definitely be more dust players than eve players, it's going to be terrible to have to rely on them to move.

2nd the average eve player isn't going to courier contract a dust player and if they do I can imagine it costing to much to be effective, this mans the average duster will be stuck in the starting area for weeks.

That's what I'm saying, we don't rely on them, we utilise them when we can. I also like the idea mentioned above of some kind of hub system and the beacons I mention above could very easily be bookmarks akin to EVE's current system.

I'm not sure I agree completely. Sure we shouldn't have to rely on them for everything, but there's nothing wrong with relying on them for some things.

One thing that hasn't been discussed much is W-space. If we want to investigate some real Sleeper ruins and other advanced, dangerous, exotic locations, we need a way to get through wormholes. I can imagine purchasing a clone bank and having an EVE pilot carry the clone bank at high risk through a wormhole and drop it on a planet. (Granted a lot of these places are already owned, so the corp that owns the system can also contract Dust mercs to land and investigate planets. But in any system that can be corp-owned, there's always the risky possibility of sneaking in.) And then, once you get what you came for, you'd need an extraction plan. Could be a lucrative, high-risk job for an EVE pilot to support pirate mercs this way.