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KDR statistics and leaderboard needs to go. The only thing these statistics encourage people to, is not to die. Avoiding deaths leads to chicken kitten gameplay.

The correct replacement is a statistics that leads to active and bloodthirsty gameplay. I suggest war points per hour. Looking at a player wp/h and total wp tells much more of the type than just KDR. It punishes leechers. It rewards top scorers who win the matches for their team. WP/h leaderboards encourage people to do their utmost to melt face.

Start by adding wp/h, then drop KDR if there is consensus for it.

Start by adding wp/h, then drop KDR if there is consensus for it.

I favor adding more stats to game and leaderboards for them.

kills per match would also be nice. looking at this along side kdr would help tell if player is aggressively looking for enemy or hiding looking for safe kills.

wp per match and warpoint per death would also be great.

Leaderboards for kdr, kills/match, and total kills for each weapon type would be great. More apples to apples this way.

Leaderboards with revives per match and total revives, spawn in on drop link, ammo restore, hp healed, obj hacked, ect..

The more stats we can see, the harder it will be to fake/boost them, it will leave clues in other stats if we have enough of them.

edit. The current kdr leaderboard is broken, to easy to fake good kdr on get one it. People with good kdr are hard to find on it. I would like to keep the stat, but the leaderboard is useless right now. Needs a play 50 games restriction or something on all leaderboard to prevent alts filling, by restarting a char till good first game puts char on board then retiring char.

Per hour (in match) is muct more telling than per match (short one sided match? low WP) or per death (go shoot installations or players in start, hide until end).

TLDR: topic


KDR statistics and leaderboard needs to go. The only thing these statistics encourage people to, is not to die. Avoiding deaths leads to chicken kitten gameplay.

The correct replacement is a statistics that leads to active and bloodthirsty gameplay. I suggest war points per hour. Looking at a player wp/h and total wp tells much more of the type than just KDR. It punishes leechers. It rewards top scorers who win the matches for their team. WP/h leaderboards encourage people to do their utmost to melt face.

Start by adding wp/h, then drop KDR if there is consensus for it.

TLDR: topic


KDR statistics and leaderboard needs to go. The only thing these statistics encourage people to, is not to die. Avoiding deaths leads to chicken kitten gameplay.

The correct replacement is a statistics that leads to active and bloodthirsty gameplay. I suggest war points per hour. Looking at a player wp/h and total wp tells much more of the type than just KDR. It punishes leechers. It rewards top scorers who win the matches for their team. WP/h leaderboards encourage people to do their utmost to melt face.

Start by adding wp/h, then drop KDR if there is consensus for it.

TLDR: topic


KDR statistics and leaderboard needs to go. The only thing these statistics encourage people to, is not to die. Avoiding deaths leads to chicken kitten gameplay.

The correct replacement is a statistics that leads to active and bloodthirsty gameplay. I suggest war points per hour. Looking at a player wp/h and total wp tells much more of the type than just KDR. It punishes leechers. It rewards top scorers who win the matches for their team. WP/h leaderboards encourage people to do their utmost to melt face.

Start by adding wp/h, then drop KDR if there is consensus for it.

It's just really surprising this coming from you. Are you sick of just shooting a few people with your thale and then hiding back in the spawn?

Your assume that every players spends every day hunched over dust 514 in a dark room. Some of us have actual lives we need to attend too.

Im lucky if I get 30 mins on dust here and there.

So no.

Terrible idea.

KDR is a largely useless statistic on an objectives-based game. I've argued for months that it should be taken off entirely from the leaderboards. Thankfully KDR ranking on after-match results was replaced with WP ranking after my and many others' urges during closed beta.

WP/h and WP/D are much more valid measurements, and encourage people to play the objective, instead of turtling and whoring for kills.. When we get proper reporting on ISK damage cause vs. ISK used, that will give better insight into what really matters in New Eden: ISK and how efficiently you utilize it.

The reason why KDR and other less useful statistics should be removed entirely is that if it is reported, people and corps will use it to rank themselves. It is CCP's job as developers to encourage "correct" gameplay, and in Dust KDR tells much less about someone's mercenary skills than several other metrics.

TLDR: topic


KDR statistics and leaderboard needs to go. The only thing these statistics encourage people to, is not to die. Avoiding deaths leads to chicken kitten gameplay.

The correct replacement is a statistics that leads to active and bloodthirsty gameplay. I suggest war points per hour. Looking at a player wp/h and total wp tells much more of the type than just KDR. It punishes leechers. It rewards top scorers who win the matches for their team. WP/h leaderboards encourage people to do their utmost to melt face.

Start by adding wp/h, then drop KDR if there is consensus for it.

Your assume that every players spends every day hunched over dust 514 in a dark room. Some of us have actual lives we need to attend too.

Im lucky if I get 30 mins on dust here and there.

So no.

Terrible idea.

TLDR: topic


KDR statistics and leaderboard needs to go. The only thing these statistics encourage people to, is not to die. Avoiding deaths leads to chicken kitten gameplay.

The correct replacement is a statistics that leads to active and bloodthirsty gameplay. I suggest war points per hour. Looking at a player wp/h and total wp tells much more of the type than just KDR. It punishes leechers. It rewards top scorers who win the matches for their team. WP/h leaderboards encourage people to do their utmost to melt face.

Start by adding wp/h, then drop KDR if there is consensus for it.

Keep KDR and add more stats such as kills and WP per hour logged, WP per death, etc. That way it just seperates the people who generally die less and help the team and the ones how just pad things like KD.

More stats the better

closing your eyes do not make your bad KDR go away. TRUTH.