I favor adding more stats to game and leaderboards for them.

kills per match would also be nice. looking at this along side kdr would help tell if player is aggressively looking for enemy or hiding looking for safe kills.

wp per match and warpoint per death would also be great.

Leaderboards for kdr, kills/match, and total kills for each weapon type would be great. More apples to apples this way.

Leaderboards with revives per match and total revives, spawn in on drop link, ammo restore, hp healed, obj hacked, ect..

The more stats we can see, the harder it will be to fake/boost them, it will leave clues in other stats if we have enough of them.

edit. The current kdr leaderboard is broken, to easy to fake good kdr on get one it. People with good kdr are hard to find on it. I would like to keep the stat, but the leaderboard is useless right now. Needs a play 50 games restriction or something on all leaderboard to prevent alts filling, by restarting a char till good first game puts char on board then retiring char.

It's just really surprising this coming from you. Are you sick of just shooting a few people with your thale and then hiding back in the spawn?

Your assume that every players spends every day hunched over dust 514 in a dark room. Some of us have actual lives we need to attend too.

Im lucky if I get 30 mins on dust here and there.

So no.

Terrible idea.

Keep KDR and add more stats such as kills and WP per hour logged, WP per death, etc. That way it just seperates the people who generally die less and help the team and the ones how just pad things like KD.

More stats the better

closing your eyes do not make your bad KDR go away. TRUTH.

Trollsroyce made me go from 1.2 to 8.4 in a single match, I never found him. How is his freakishly good sniping skills an indicator of my skills? I still have no Idea where those shots were coming from

Your missing the point of all the stats.

Grats you have a High KDR, you have a ton of warpoints, but your support is low, this tells me 2 things 1 your not a logi, 2 that I should look into if your squad leader is putting squad orders up, are you following them, is your team working together. niether of these say anything about you as a player. but they are a place to begin a discussion.

Stats in and of them selves mean nothing, that are a reffernce, they give you a point to start a discussion. they are a way of telling how should I talk to this person, in a recruitment situation I would not send a logibro to talk to you, I'd send a assualt or heavy to talk to you. For a corp leader they tell them this guys is a monster at killing people, I want to team him with this logibro, and these two assualt guys so I have a balanced squad.

I push the stats I have because they are all we get. limiting ourselves to just looking at warpoints without breaking it down doesn't help anyone when we have only 4 real stats that the game gives us, I discount KDR because it's a derived stats from kills and deaths which we are also given.

I'm not saying your wrong for asking about more stats, I'm saying your asking for the wrong data points. However in the thinking I have been doing to discuss this with you I spotted one stats I missed out of the data we have and am adding it to my site tonight, thank you.

But please, limit time to a look at how your data has changed over it's length rather than using it as a data point

Edit: As CCP Foxfour said last night Filtering data is filtering data, the data, all of it should be viewed to have meaning as a whole, otherwise you might miss something.

That again is an assumption that killing is the most important thing.

Let me posit a situation.

Let's say Null sec sov matches have no time limit, you can bring as many clones as you can fit in your MCC, and last until your opponents MCC is destroyed. the only way to damage your oppenents MCC is with missle nodes just like we have now.

you enemy has brought in 10k clones, you brought 2k clones.

Winning by clone victory is going to be very hard, if not impossible, your best bet is to take out the MCC, for that you need to take and hold positions.

In this position I want a balanced team, I want 1 hacker 1 heavy, a logi and a assualt. now I know these areas in fitting can overlap, but playstyles they all take a different mentality. Some people can be all four and do it very well, some can only do one no matter how many different fits they have.

How am I supposed to know this if I have 4 different corp battles going on each that can have 24 people on each side in a corp with 400 people. do I only recruit the best of the best killers to try and burn thru 10k clones before they can destroy our MCC,

Different people are needed in different areas.

I am a logi, some of you may have seen me in some matches, my kdr is crap, in the .7 area, but I can pull 1500 to 2500 warpoints in a match while going 0-0 because I can hack, I know where to put Squad orders, and where to drop uplinks and nanohives to make it so my squad can do it's best. so do you want me a s a front line soldier or do you want me standing behind the guy that goes 50-10 making it so he can go 55-2 because I keep him alive and full on ammo.

This game takes all types, to judge them you need stats of all types, I need stats so I can say this guy is a great logi, I need stats to say this guy is a great killer, and I need stats that say this guy can do everything.

Time only matters when you don't have any, if your in that position you didn't do it right.

I'll use Heinz's example to show a little flaw of this mindset and reinforce his point, because Heinz explained it pretty well already.

Let's come back to the 10k enemies and 2k allies. Good job to the guy who did killing only and eliminated 50 clones, while dying 10 times. Huge props for getting rid of 0.5% of enemy clone reserves.

Now, the merc who went 10-0 could've picked up and healed 200 clones, including the one that went 50-10. That is 10% of your clone reserves.

Question: who is more valuable now?

The problem your seeing is the Wolf killing ducks, what happens when your three wolves walk into the jaws on my wolf packs.

Case in point, go play a corp match against the Imprefects, I'll wait.

No?

I know I brought them up, they may not be the greatest people, some of them are good guys, but they work together and will destroy any team of random lone wolfs, because they work with each other, playing off their strenghts and are better because of it

Your never gonna have a 24 man team of lone wolves. in Corp matches you would get rolled.

Your second assumption is that grinding faster is better. not always. Example, let's say you setup 10 corp matches for tomorrow, now you assume 10 minutes to get into the match and 10 minutes to win, then you set each match to start every 15 minutes, to maximise flow without having to do match then match without a break to refit. now let us say you get into a rather nasty match, is taking forever and is gonna run 20 minutes. your now 5 minutes into your next match, are you gonna have your best players drop this match to go hit the other one, you gonna have lesser players run the other match until your good players are avalible? then that match runs long, then your in a cycle of basicly screwed.

If you want to pub stomp and think your great. Fine, but that's not what this game is about, that's not where the stats matter.