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DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:45:00 -
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I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol. |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:49:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol.
From the title of your thread I am assuming you are one of those "3" people?
You might want to share a bit more information about it all in order to start a constructive conversation about the subject.
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:50:00 -
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Increase additional damage build up 10-20%(possibly more) and overheat by 40% so it overheats around halfway through the clip. |
The legend345
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
73
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:51:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol. From the title of your thread I am assuming you are one of those "3" people? You might want to share a bit more information about it all in order to start a constructive conversation about the subject. LOL even the gm thinks your just butthurt xD. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:51:00 -
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nah not half through the clip like 2/3 at most |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:52:00 -
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lasers shouldn't have ammo
they should have lenses that if you over heat one it breaks and you are only given 3 lenses spare that can be replenished with nanohives and supply depots. |
Pays 2 Win
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
102
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:52:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol.
Working as intended |
Andius Fidelitas
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:53:00 -
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On behalf of us laser lovers Mr OP.
You're welcome. |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:54:00 -
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I'm a heavy and I want l lasers left alone. No more nerfs. Everyone is after my HMG so I know how it feels to wield a hated weapon, but you should just learn to deal, not beg CCP to come and save you. I wish CCP would put all the weapons/suits/vehicles back to where they were before the tears, I really do. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:54:00 -
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Best thread ever. I can't wait to login tonight. |
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
443
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:57:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol.
Ummmm lol you haven't played me in a match have you?
Or this would be titled Nerf your name here's LR.
3 is a minimum.
You'd be lucky if I didn't fry 40~ of your team before the match is over.
Nom nom nom crispy cherry pie
Oh and Hi Vegas! From fan boy
Ima start a video feed with the LR starting tonight maybe you'll see some avoidance tips. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:58:00 -
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laser make me not want to play this game |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
330
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:01:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:laser make me not want to play this game
Hahaha OP, you are awesome. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:03:00 -
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the guy had 20 kills and 0 deaths |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:04:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:lasers shouldn't have ammo
they should have lenses that if you over heat one it breaks and you are only given 3 lenses spare that can be replenished with nanohives and supply depots. Or batteries, batteries work too.
Oh, wait... |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
330
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:04:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:the guy had 20 kills and 0 deaths
Lmao, please stop, you're killing me here!! |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
443
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:05:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Necrodermis wrote:lasers shouldn't have ammo
they should have lenses that if you over heat one it breaks and you are only given 3 lenses spare that can be replenished with nanohives and supply depots. Or batteries, batteries work too. Oh, wait...
Give an avatar batteries and.......
Oh wait Vegas is watching, nvm. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:08:00 -
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it don't matter to me, I hate lasers. Sorry if I hurt yall fellings. Laser suck. Fix it |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:19:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:it don't matter to me, I hate lasers. Sorry if I hurt yall fellings. Laser suck. Fix it clearly lasers don't suck if he went 20-0, you on the other hand seem to if you couldn't get close enough to put him down at least once |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:20:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:it don't matter to me, I hate lasers. Sorry if I hurt yall fellings. Laser suck. Fix it Does his majesty require any other balance changes to suit his particular brand of sucking? |
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DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:30:00 -
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gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:it don't matter to me, I hate lasers. Sorry if I hurt yall fellings. Laser suck. Fix it clearly lasers don't suck if he went 20-0, you on the other hand seem to if you couldn't get close enough to put him down at least once If a guy sit in one spot for the entire match and go 20 and 0. Somethings aint right. Even if he is killed 1 time, before he is killed a again he would be 20-2 lol. So he would be 30 and 3 when its all done. It don't feel good to watch your hold squad die from a laser. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:34:00 -
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I think the best thing to do is to take lasers off this game lol |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:35:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:it don't matter to me, I hate lasers. Sorry if I hurt yall fellings. Laser suck. Fix it clearly lasers don't suck if he went 20-0, you on the other hand seem to if you couldn't get close enough to put him down at least once If a guy sit in one stop for the entire match and go 20 and 0. Somethings aint right. Even if he is killed 1 time, before he is killed a again he would be 20-2 lol. So he would be 30 and 3 when its all done. It don't feel good to watch your hold squad die from a laser. Tell me have you ever used the LR yourself? If you had you would be aware that one of the most effective tactics for the LR which is atrocious at short range, is to find a high spot and shoot at any enemy's he can see. By doing the LR player makes it difficult for the enemy team to move around without taking damage and gives his team a big advantage, plus said LR tends to rack up the kills |
boba's fetta
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers
8
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:36:00 -
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i would like op to have his forum posting rights nerfed. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:37:00 -
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gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:it don't matter to me, I hate lasers. Sorry if I hurt yall fellings. Laser suck. Fix it clearly lasers don't suck if he went 20-0, you on the other hand seem to if you couldn't get close enough to put him down at least once If a guy sit in one stop for the entire match and go 20 and 0. Somethings aint right. Even if he is killed 1 time, before he is killed a again he would be 20-2 lol. So he would be 30 and 3 when its all done. It don't feel good to watch your hold squad die from a laser. Tell me have you ever used the LR yourself? If you had you would be aware that one of the most effective tactics for the LR which is atrocious at short range, is to find a high spot and shoot at any enemy's he can see. By doing the LR player makes it difficult for the enemy team to move around without taking damage and gives his team a big advantage, plus said LR tends to rack up the kills
No, I never used a laser because I don't like cheating |
SubZero DeZigns
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:38:00 -
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If you haven't already noticed, Lasers aren't effective close up |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:38:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:it don't matter to me, I hate lasers. Sorry if I hurt yall fellings. Laser suck. Fix it clearly lasers don't suck if he went 20-0, you on the other hand seem to if you couldn't get close enough to put him down at least once If a guy sit in one stop for the entire match and go 20 and 0. Somethings aint right. Even if he is killed 1 time, before he is killed a again he would be 20-2 lol. So he would be 30 and 3 when its all done. It don't feel good to watch your hold squad die from a laser. Tell me have you ever used the LR yourself? If you had you would be aware that one of the most effective tactics for the LR which is atrocious at short range, is to find a high spot and shoot at any enemy's he can see. By doing the LR player makes it difficult for the enemy team to move around without taking damage and gives his team a big advantage, plus said LR tends to rack up the kills No, I never used a laser because I don't like cheating
That's rich, keep it up.
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:39:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol. From the title of your thread I am assuming you are one of those "3" people? You might want to share a bit more information about it all in order to start a constructive conversation about the subject.
this is Vegases way of saying "this better be constructive or i'm locking it" |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:41:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:I'm a heavy and I want l lasers left alone. No more nerfs. Everyone is after my HMG so I know how it feels to wield a hated weapon, but you should just learn to deal, not beg CCP to come and save you. I wish CCP would put all the weapons/suits/vehicles back to where they were before the tears, I really do.
second! really, all these new players need to expereince swarms of doom, THEN they'll know what an OP weapon feels like |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:43:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Necrodermis wrote:lasers shouldn't have ammo
they should have lenses that if you over heat one it breaks and you are only given 3 lenses spare that can be replenished with nanohives and supply depots. Or batteries, batteries work too. Oh, wait... Give an avatar batteries and....... Oh wait Vegas is watching, nvm.
*waits with baited breath*
go on....... |
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DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:44:00 -
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The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. |
BobThe843CakeMan
BurgezzE.T.F
132
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:48:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. lasers r good. but they are not some "cheating" weapon. they are terrible at close range. also saying u never used them confirms how little you know about these "cheating" weapons. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:50:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. lasers r good. but they are not some "cheating" weapon. they are terrible at close range. also saying u never used them confirms how little you know about these "cheating" weapons. Dude why would any one go close if they can just use lasers? A op laser and a module on a sub machine gun and you will have a amazing K/D. lol they good, they weapons of mass destruction lloll |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:52:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. course you can't run from laser's, they travel at the speed of light. Besides you can't declare something OP just cause some guy went 20-0 with it. If that's the case what about all the AR guys who get that kind of score, are they using a "cheating" weapon as well? |
BobThe843CakeMan
BurgezzE.T.F
132
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:53:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. lasers r good. but they are not some "cheating" weapon. they are terrible at close range. also saying u never used them confirms how little you know about these "cheating" weapons. Dude why would any one go close if they can just use lasers? A op laser and a module on a sub machine gun and you will have a amazing K/D. lol they good, they weapons of mass destruction lloll it's called flanking them look it up. u know what u do to kill someone effectively. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
443
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:56:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Necrodermis wrote:lasers shouldn't have ammo
they should have lenses that if you over heat one it breaks and you are only given 3 lenses spare that can be replenished with nanohives and supply depots. Or batteries, batteries work too. Oh, wait... Give an avatar batteries and....... Oh wait Vegas is watching, nvm. *waits with baited breath* go on.......
Pictures worth 1000 words,
http://www.eve-wiki.net/images/d/d0/04n.jpg
Need I say more? |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:57:00 -
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gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. course you can't run from laser's, they travel at the speed of light. Besides you can't declare something OP just cause some guy wen t 20-0 with it. If that's the case what about all the AR guys who get that kind of score, are they using a "cheating" weapon as well?
I know when somethings is op. It don't take a genius. They been op for a long time now. Laser are not like sniper rifles. They are just op. I don't want to waste my time playing with a op laser. I saw people on youtube use them and I can see from there. Everyone on youtube that uses them dominates. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:58:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. lasers r good. but they are not some "cheating" weapon. they are terrible at close range. also saying u never used them confirms how little you know about these "cheating" weapons. Dude why would any one go close if they can just use lasers? A op laser and a module on a sub machine gun and you will have a amazing K/D. lol they good, they weapons of mass destruction lloll it's called flanking them look it up. u know what u do to kill someone effectively.
Thats what I'm telling you, you can't flank them, if you can't even run from them |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
443
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:59:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. lasers r good. but they are not some "cheating" weapon. they are terrible at close range. also saying u never used them confirms how little you know about these "cheating" weapons. Dude why would any one go close if they can just use lasers? A op laser and a module on a sub machine gun and you will have a amazing K/D. lol they good, they weapons of mass destruction lloll it's called flanking them look it up. u know what u do to kill someone effectively. Thats what I'm telling you, you can't flank them, if you can't even run from them
Mmmm yes run, run away into meh optimal, give me time for max heat build. |
BobThe843CakeMan
BurgezzE.T.F
132
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:00:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. lasers r good. but they are not some "cheating" weapon. they are terrible at close range. also saying u never used them confirms how little you know about these "cheating" weapons. Dude why would any one go close if they can just use lasers? A op laser and a module on a sub machine gun and you will have a amazing K/D. lol they good, they weapons of mass destruction lloll it's called flanking them look it up. u know what u do to kill someone effectively. Thats what I'm telling you, you can't flank them, if you can't even run from them maybe u can't but i sure can. and so can others. it's all about going the long way around. |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:03:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. course you can't run from laser's, they travel at the speed of light. Besides you can't declare something OP just cause some guy wen t 20-0 with it. If that's the case what about all the AR guys who get that kind of score, are they using a "cheating" weapon as well? I know when somethings is op. It don't take a genius. They been op for a long time now. Laser are not like sniper rifles. They are just op. I don't want to waste my time playing with a op laser. I saw people on youtube use them and I can see from there. Everyone on youtube that uses them dominates. Did those videos show how horribly you die if you get caught out of position by even a scout suit with the least HP, i have been melee'd to death by scrambler pistols due to the lack of damage LR get at close range, LR's dominate because they find a good position and make good use of it, if the enemy has an LR set up you either get in close or you get a sniper to deal with it, you don't play a game of whack-a-mole with them, because that's what normally happens when newberries go up against LR's. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:06:00 -
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gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. course you can't run from laser's, they travel at the speed of light. Besides you can't declare something OP just cause some guy wen t 20-0 with it. If that's the case what about all the AR guys who get that kind of score, are they using a "cheating" weapon as well? I know when somethings is op. It don't take a genius. They been op for a long time now. Laser are not like sniper rifles. They are just op. I don't want to waste my time playing with a op laser. I saw people on youtube use them and I can see from there. Everyone on youtube that uses them dominates. Did those videos show how horribly you die if you get caught out of position by even a scout suit with the least HP, i have been melee'd to death by scrambler pistols due to the lack of damage LR get at close range, LR's dominate because they find a good position and make good use of it, if the enemy has an LR set up you either get in close or you get a sniper to deal with it, you don't play a game of whack-a-mole with them, because that's what normally happens when newberries go up against LR's.
I used a sniper, and they is no match for a laser. Explan how do you take out a guy with a laser, please do.... |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:08:00 -
[43] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Increase additional damage build up 10-20%(possibly more) and overheat by 40% so it overheats around halfway through the clip. as long as they dont nerf the damage agree 100% |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
15
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:09:00 -
[44] - Quote
I very seldom encounter players using LR, and it's even rarer that I get killed by one. If it was so over powered one would think you'd see people using it a lot more in game... |
Mechanicus Lupus
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:09:00 -
[45] - Quote
You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close.
The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious.
Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:10:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. course you can't run from laser's, they travel at the speed of light. Besides you can't declare something OP just cause some guy wen t 20-0 with it. If that's the case what about all the AR guys who get that kind of score, are they using a "cheating" weapon as well? I know when somethings is op. It don't take a genius. They been op for a long time now. Laser are not like sniper rifles. They are just op. I don't want to waste my time playing with a op laser. I saw people on youtube use them and I can see from there. Everyone on youtube that uses them dominates. Did those videos show how horribly you die if you get caught out of position by even a scout suit with the least HP, i have been melee'd to death by scrambler pistols due to the lack of damage LR get at close range, LR's dominate because they find a good position and make good use of it, if the enemy has an LR set up you either get in close or you get a sniper to deal with it, you don't play a game of whack-a-mole with them, because that's what normally happens when newberries go up against LR's. I used a sniper, and they is no match for a laser. Explan how do you take out a guy with a laser, please do.... Be farthur than 60m away, lasers do 0 damage past 60 m, and 20% closer than 30m. So to kill a laser guy...
A.don't stand still B.Stay far away and snipe him C.see he's close and run at him full speed with your sidearm
p.s. lasers suck |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:12:00 -
[47] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. course you can't run from laser's, they travel at the speed of light. Besides you can't declare something OP just cause some guy wen t 20-0 with it. If that's the case what about all the AR guys who get that kind of score, are they using a "cheating" weapon as well? I know when somethings is op. It don't take a genius. They been op for a long time now. Laser are not like sniper rifles. They are just op. I don't want to waste my time playing with a op laser. I saw people on youtube use them and I can see from there. Everyone on youtube that uses them dominates. Did those videos show how horribly you die if you get caught out of position by even a scout suit with the least HP, i have been melee'd to death by scrambler pistols due to the lack of damage LR get at close range, LR's dominate because they find a good position and make good use of it, if the enemy has an LR set up you either get in close or you get a sniper to deal with it, you don't play a game of whack-a-mole with them, because that's what normally happens when newberries go up against LR's. I used a sniper, and they is no match for a laser. Explain how do you take out a guy with a laser, please do.... laser's build up damage the longer you fire them so you can either target the guy straight away and give him a slow roast or you can aim slightly to the side so it just misses him and then swing it onto him when it's at it's max damage to just burn him nearly instantly. Also aim for the head's for extra damage.
Now I will say that the LR needs a slight adjustment on the heat build up but it's not an OP weapon.
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DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:12:00 -
[48] - Quote
Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range
The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
15
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:14:00 -
[49] - Quote
You also make me wonder what kind of Dropsuit/modules you are using... I use a Logistic (Artificer) suit just the tier after militia, and when I first get hit by a LR, I usually have time to take cover. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:15:00 -
[50] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. so you're complaining that your enemy is competent with his weapon? |
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DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:18:00 -
[51] - Quote
gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. so you're complaining that your enemy is competent with his weapon? I bet everyone that comment on this thread likes and uses lasers lol |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:19:00 -
[52] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. so you're complaining that your enemy is competent with his weapon? I bet everyone that comment on this thread likes and uses lasers lol I do, but then I've tried every weapon in this game except for shotguns, so I clearly have no idea how weapons perform in comparison to each other |
Eggress
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:20:00 -
[53] - Quote
Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. |
Vance Alken
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
94
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:20:00 -
[54] - Quote
I hope we get laser lenses at some point, WTB Dust rainbeam team. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:22:00 -
[55] - Quote
gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. so you're complaining that your enemy is competent with his weapon? I bet everyone that comment on this thread likes and uses lasers lol I do, but then I've tried every weapon in this game except for shotguns, so I clearly have no idea how weapons perform in comparison to each other
Kool I tried every weapon on this game except lasers. Lasers are a cheating tool lol I even tried nova knives.
Lasers should be called a weapon of mass cheating. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:27:00 -
[56] - Quote
so try lasers, then you will have tried all of them, then and only then will I start taking this thread seriously |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be.
if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:31:00 -
[58] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. they're more to this game then kills y'know, and half the time when i play it's some AR or HMG guy who's topping the board's, most LR guy's I see end up somewhere in the top 5. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:32:00 -
[59] - Quote
gbghg wrote:so try lasers, then you will have tried all of them, then and only then will I start taking this thread seriously
I tried lasers once actually, when the game was in close beta. They was boring to me so I stop after one time. I don't want to waste my skill points on something that is boring to me. Nope, I'm never using a laser again. |
Eggress
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:34:00 -
[60] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op.
You're confusing correlation with causation.
Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover.
There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one. |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:36:00 -
[61] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:so try lasers, then you will have tried all of them, then and only then will I start taking this thread seriously I tried lasers once actually, when the game was in close beta. They was boring to me so I stop after one time. I don't want to waste my skill points on something that is boring to me. Nope, I'm never using a laser again. Its about 100k isk and 12k sp points, it costs virtually nothing, so stop making ****** excuses and try something before you judge it |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:39:00 -
[62] - Quote
Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. You're confusing correlation with causation. Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover. There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one.
QFT and +1
on the other hand why did you have to come in here being all logical & S**** he might stop posting and I'll have to quit laughing. |
Eggress
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:44:00 -
[63] - Quote
I'm just a big meanie. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:45:00 -
[64] - Quote
Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. You're confusing correlation with causation. Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover. There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one.
So if I make the mistake of running to a different location. I deserved to had got killed by a laser because I have to just stay as far as possible or hope that he doesn't see me so I can get close to him? |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:47:00 -
[65] - Quote
lol They should just take lasers off this game....laser take no actual gaming skills and is a shame. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:48:00 -
[66] - Quote
Kovak Therim wrote:I'm a heavy and I want l lasers left alone. No more nerfs. Everyone is after my HMG so I know how it feels to wield a hated weapon, but you should just learn to deal, not beg CCP to come and save you. I wish CCP would put all the weapons/suits/vehicles back to where they were before the tears, I really do. I WOULD agree with you. Except you obviously weren't here for the missile crisis (imagine infinite ranged, huge blast radius, OKH balls of death falling from the sky and blasting from every vehicle you encountered. Because that was what it was). Or immortal tanks. Or spamable remote explosives. Or AR's with 100% accuracy, no recoil, insane range through a whole clip and a dot sight.
Ppl can quit QQing about lasers, but QQing is the only reason this game is halfway playable right now. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:54:00 -
[67] - Quote
when a guy kills me with a AR, pistol, mass driver, or sub machine gun. I say to my self. That guy was just better then me that time, but I will get him the next time. But when I get killled by a laser, I think to my self. That guy just using that weapon because he know it's op. The heavy machine gun kinda op. But at less you can run from him and get away sometimes. Laser you almost can never get a away. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:55:00 -
[68] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:lol They should just take lasers off this game....laser take no actual gaming skills and is a shame. yeah like AR's take huge amount of "skill" as well |
Eggress
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:55:00 -
[69] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. You're confusing correlation with causation. Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover. There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one. So if I make the mistake of running to a different location. I deserved to had got killed by a laser because I have to just stay as far as possible or hope that he doesn't see me so I can get close to him?
If you make the mistake of running to a different location without enough cover to survive on the way, yes you deserve to die. This isn't Halo. It's a game of stealth and cunning and as long as you keep trying to run 'n gun you are going to keep dying to anyone who's not. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:00:00 -
[70] - Quote
Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. You're confusing correlation with causation. Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover. There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one. So if I make the mistake of running to a different location. I deserved to had got killed by a laser because I have to just stay as far as possible or hope that he doesn't see me so I can get close to him? If you make the mistake of running to a different location without enough cover to survive on the way, yes you deserve to die. This isn't Halo. It's a game of stealth and cunning and as long as you keep trying to run 'n gun you are going to keep dying to anyone who's not.
How is this a game of stealth if it is no stealth weapons? I don't see any silencers on a weapon. Every weapon you can hear and I can bascially see people though walls coming at me lol |
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Eggress
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:02:00 -
[71] - Quote
Maybe you should learn about the game mechanics before whining about what's OP and what's not. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:03:00 -
[72] - Quote
Laser rock tbh
Its the snipers which ruin the game for everyone, also mass drivers who just spam it at you at point blank range and dont even cause damage to themselves |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:04:00 -
[73] - Quote
This idiot is never gonna shut up. I vote we let the thread die, he's just trolling now |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:07:00 -
[74] - Quote
gbghg wrote:This idiot is never gonna shut up. I vote we let the thread die, he's just trolling now
Dude stop getting sensitive, I just said what I was feeling after a match I had. Laser suck and going to be the reason I stop playing this game ( people like you make this game suck). |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:15:00 -
[75] - Quote
Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Random stuff that I intend to make fun of.
Correct way of dealing with this scrub is to drive over his ass with a tank, repeatedly. Shooting him doesn't quite have the necessary "insult to injury" feeling.
Plus his laser is useless on a madrugar.
But more serious note: Do not know how many times i have to say this... get close to laser operators as fast as you can.
I demonstrated to one laser operator how his toy was useless by standing in the beam while laughing and shooting him in the face.
with a militia starter frontline fit. Just for the LOLz |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:23:00 -
[76] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:This idiot is never gonna shut up. I vote we let the thread die, he's just trolling now Dude stop getting sensitive, I just said what I was feeling after a match I had. Laser suck and going to be the reason I stop playing this game ( people like you make this game suck). oh the irony is killing me |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:30:00 -
[77] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:the guy had 20 kills and 0 deaths That means your team is incredibly stupid to not be able to take down a scout with a laser rifle- a terrible combination in itself. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:31:00 -
[78] - Quote
And for the record, I mean terrible as in a terrible idea because you'll get killed in your face if you try it. |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:01:00 -
[79] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. so you're complaining that your enemy is competent with his weapon? I bet everyone that comment on this thread likes and uses lasers lol I like to eat lasers for breakfast. Try using a mass driver next time bro. More than able to throw off their aim, and is a great weapon if you use it properly.
On a side note OP, you sound like you have a severe case of butthurt, and you should probably go see a doctor about it. While you;re there though, you might want to check and see if you have a concussion, because the only way you could be this stupid was to have hit your head VERY hard, and then drank a bottle of vodka. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:03:00 -
[80] - Quote
Eggress wrote:Maybe you should learn about the game mechanics before whining about what's OP and what's not.
How do you simply learn if the devs are not teaching? In MAG at less the the DEVS had like 50 videos explaining what to do. For example wtf is a meta level? |
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:08:00 -
[81] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:the guy had 20 kills and 0 deaths That's it? |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:13:00 -
[82] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Maybe you should learn about the game mechanics before whining about what's OP and what's not. How do you simply learn if the devs are not teaching? In MAG at less the the DEVS had like 50 videos explaining what to do. For example wtf is a meta level? Its the overall level of quality of an item, the higher the better. And yes everyone complains about the lack of tutorials, but please remember the training grounds exist, you got a question? go there. |
PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163
A.I.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
lol whats with all the ignorant trolls. The guy simply post a topic about lasers being OP. Why not start a constructive conversation about it instead of being dicks you **** tards. How about we prove him wrong or right by stating wether or not its op.
Let me start. Lasers are quite powerful indeed. But the thing is that you should avoid and get to cover. I clarify this as a support weapon to get enemys in/out of cover, doing high damage at the same time.
( ******* ignorant people these days ) |
Grimmiers
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:21:00 -
[84] - Quote
OP http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iXgsCPFhSgc#t=85s
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DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:22:00 -
[85] - Quote
Tregar Kerrigan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. so you're complaining that your enemy is competent with his weapon? I bet everyone that comment on this thread likes and uses lasers lol I like to eat lasers for breakfast. Try using a mass driver next time bro. More than able to throw off their aim, and is a great weapon if you use it properly. On a side note OP, you sound like you have a severe case of butthurt, and you should probably go see a doctor about it. While you;re there though, you might want to check and see if you have a concussion, because the only way you could be this stupid was to have hit your head VERY hard, and then drank a bottle of vodka. ok this the type of talk that gets dudes jaw broken, please STFU. Come to Chicago and lets talk. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:40:00 -
[86] - Quote
lasers are like a long sword the size of a football field its not like a actual gun. They swinging them like a bat taking out entire squads. They horrible. |
Cless Vallein
Teknomen
37
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:42:00 -
[87] - Quote
I hate lasers as well... But when you're right up on them and they try their lasers and find they are useless, I spin up my HMG and chew them up good... So satisfying |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:46:00 -
[88] - Quote
they should make lasers cost a million lsk or make them like a killstreak, You can only get one if you reach 1000 WP. |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:50:00 -
[89] - Quote
And you wonder, good sir, why we troll you. Laser rifles are just fine the way they are, in that they are effective in their optimal range, but are significantly less effective outside of it. Perhaps we should in fact model more weapons off the laser rifle, now that I think about it. |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
350
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:50:00 -
[90] - Quote
I went 24-0 running people over in a LAV.
Nerf physics. |
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:56:00 -
[91] - Quote
Ryder Azorria wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:it don't matter to me, I hate lasers. Sorry if I hurt yall fellings. Laser suck. Fix it Does his majesty require any other balance changes to suit his particular brand of sucking?
Lol *shakes head* *facepalm* lol |
PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163
A.I.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:00:00 -
[92] - Quote
Tregar Kerrigan wrote:And you wonder, good sir, why we troll you. Laser rifles are just fine the way they are, in that they are effective in their optimal range, but are significantly less effective outside of it. Perhaps we should in fact model more weapons off the laser rifle, now that I think about it. And then that's where we have ignorant people like you. Sitting behind a computer talking ****. But people like you cant back it up in real life. (lmao slob) |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:06:00 -
[93] - Quote
Will all trolls please STFU and exit the thread. |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:06:00 -
[94] - Quote
PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163 wrote:Tregar Kerrigan wrote:And you wonder, good sir, why we troll you. Laser rifles are just fine the way they are, in that they are effective in their optimal range, but are significantly less effective outside of it. Perhaps we should in fact model more weapons off the laser rifle, now that I think about it. And then that's where we have ignorant people like you. Sitting behind a computer talking ****. But people like you cant back it up in real life. (lmao slob) Please, tell me how I am ignorant on the subject. I have been on both ends of laser rifles, and honestly I find them underwhelming in the extreme. I almost never die to them, and I almost never get kills either. I have seen them use effectively once, and all that was required to suppress the person who was doing it was equipping a sniper rifle and staying outside his effective range. |
SYNLIVEoCOM
SYNDICATE.xg
2
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:07:00 -
[95] - Quote
Wow, I guess you never really know how many a-holes are out there in your community until someone posts something like this.
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Arbor Viridanus
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:10:00 -
[96] - Quote
You guys realize that OP is trolling you all, right? Because it's really, really obvious. |
PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163
A.I.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:12:00 -
[97] - Quote
SYNLIVEoCOM wrote:Wow, I guess you never really know how many a-holes are out there in your community until someone posts something like this.
Well you should get used to it man. Unfortunently Subreddit is just a band of trolls put together. I thought they we much more mature than this. Discraceful |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:13:00 -
[98] - Quote
Arbor Viridanus wrote:You guys realize that OP is trolling you all, right? Because it's really, really obvious. Hence the earlier request to let the thread die, but people just keep on posting,,, |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:13:00 -
[99] - Quote
Arbor Viridanus wrote:You guys realize that OP is trolling you all, right? Because it's really, really obvious. Hence the earlier request to let the thread die, but people just keep on posting,,, |
PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163
A.I.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:16:00 -
[100] - Quote
gbghg wrote:Arbor Viridanus wrote:You guys realize that OP is trolling you all, right? Because it's really, really obvious. Hence the earlier request to let the thread die, but people just keep on posting,,, Yea im done with this thread enough has been said. |
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:17:00 -
[101] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. course you can't run from laser's, they travel at the speed of light. Besides you can't declare something OP just cause some guy wen t 20-0 with it. If that's the case what about all the AR guys who get that kind of score, are they using a "cheating" weapon as well? I know when somethings is op. It don't take a genius. They been op for a long time now. Laser are not like sniper rifles. They are just op. I don't want to waste my time playing with a op laser. I saw people on youtube use them and I can see from there. Everyone on youtube that uses them dominates. Did those videos show how horribly you die if you get caught out of position by even a scout suit with the least HP, i have been melee'd to death by scrambler pistols due to the lack of damage LR get at close range, LR's dominate because they find a good position and make good use of it, if the enemy has an LR set up you either get in close or you get a sniper to deal with it, you don't play a game of whack-a-mole with them, because that's what normally happens when newberries go up against LR's. I used a sniper, and they is no match for a laser. Explan how do you take out a guy with a laser, please do....
What a ridiculous statement. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:21:00 -
[102] - Quote
What a ridiculous statement.[/quote] lasers suck |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:25:00 -
[103] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:the guy had 20 kills and 0 deaths
omgf bro, thats phenomenal..... |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:41:00 -
[104] - Quote
Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Mmmm yes run, run away into meh optimal, give me time for max heat build.
lol this thread is filled with a multitude of delusions whiner tears from someone with no tactical game. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:41:00 -
[105] - Quote
Laser scouts are pathetic and it's even more sad that a team allowed one to go 20-0
One shot from a sniper rifle would easily stop them. There's even a nice convenient laser pointing towards the paper thin scout suit. |
Tribalfreak Baham
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:54:00 -
[106] - Quote
I've ran into lasers and i fired lasers in the short time i've been playing, i can safely say that they are fine as is. lasers are not quite as pick up and go as other rifles. the longer they are firing, the more damage they'll deal. this makes them deadly in open areas with no cover but i've survived a confrontation twice in an open area. and in a area with lots of cover, these things are EASY to get away from provided you're not like me and ran into a freakin wall due to panic the first time i saw it in action. They also overheat and damage the user.
as for the 20/0 win, that's more fail on your team as a whole in my opinion. a player going through an entire math without dying once is laughable. |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
30
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:55:00 -
[107] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:The only thing I hate about this game is lasers. You cant run from lasers, at less you can run from heavys. Laser is going to turn a lot of people off. I'm not a laser guy so, I'm never using a laser. People only use it so they can have a amazing K/D. lasers r good. but they are not some "cheating" weapon. they are terrible at close range. also saying u never used them confirms how little you know about these "cheating" weapons. Dude why would any one go close if they can just use lasers? A op laser and a module on a sub machine gun and you will have a amazing K/D. lol they good, they weapons of mass destruction lloll it's called flanking them look it up. u know what u do to kill someone effectively. Thats what I'm telling you, you can't flank them, if you can't even run from them
If I can flank them, you can. As someone who uses a LR all the time, I get flanked a lot. You putting the players inability to do something on the game. Which isn't constructive. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 01:58:00 -
[108] - Quote
If I can flank them, you can. As someone who uses a LR all the time, I get flanked a lot. You putting the players inability to do something on the game. Which isn't constructive.[/quote]
ok since you use lasers. Please tell me your K/d.... |
3Dollars Too Short
On The Brink
15
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:00:00 -
[109] - Quote
It dont matter to Jesus! I pull a shotgun so far up your $$$ until I pull the trigger CLICK! |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:04:00 -
[110] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:
If I can flank them, you can. As someone who uses a LR all the time, I get flanked a lot. You putting the players inability to do something on the game. Which isn't constructive.
ok since you use lasers. Please tell me your K/d....[/quote] The fact that you care so much about your k/dr shows what kind of player you are. This isn't a game where who gets the most kills is best, this is a game where who wins the most and wins consistently is the best |
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Tribalfreak Baham
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:04:00 -
[111] - Quote
Me thinks you are missing the point. even if that guy has an epic k/d it doesn't mean that lasers are OP, it simply means he knows how to use the gun and has a good fit. is it any different than a sniper who never takes part in frontline fights but constantly one shots players? |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
30
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:10:00 -
[112] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:
If I can flank them, you can. As someone who uses a LR all the time, I get flanked a lot. You putting the players inability to do something on the game. Which isn't constructive.
ok since you use lasers. Please tell me your K/d....[/quote]
It has skyrocketed since the open beta. All the snipers and newberries who stand still while shooting has benefited me. Even if kill death ratio is meaningless, to me.
I think my kill death ratio is around 4.2. Before the open beta it was always around 2 to 3. There are, many, many players using an AR that have considerably higher k/d than me. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:14:00 -
[113] - Quote
Cinnamon267 wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:
If I can flank them, you can. As someone who uses a LR all the time, I get flanked a lot. You putting the players inability to do something on the game. Which isn't constructive.
ok since you use lasers. Please tell me your K/d....
It has skyrocketed since the open beta. All the snipers and newberries who stand still while shooting has benefited me. Even if kill death ratio is meaningless, to me.
I think my kill death ratio is around 4.2. Before the open beta it was always around 2 to 3. There are, many, many players using an AR that have considerably higher k/d than me.[/quote] [---------------------------------------------------------------------------]
lol most new players who use AR K/D is 0. something |
56 truth
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:15:00 -
[114] - Quote
althougth lasers kill me jumping to right or left or back works for me i mean there is a thing called draw distance. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:16:00 -
[115] - Quote
gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:
If I can flank them, you can. As someone who uses a LR all the time, I get flanked a lot. You putting the players inability to do something on the game. Which isn't constructive.
ok since you use lasers. Please tell me your K/d.... The fact that you care so much about your k/dr shows what kind of player you are. This isn't a game where who gets the most kills is best, this is a game where who wins the most and wins consistently is the best[/quote]
ok whats your K/D? |
Tribalfreak Baham
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:21:00 -
[116] - Quote
K/d is meaningless at this point. like Cinnamon said, there are too many new players (like me) who basically make life easy for laser users. ask about K/D when everyone has better dropsuits and mods rather than generic builds they start off with. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:24:00 -
[117] - Quote
If you have a K/D over 4.0 and u use lasers please STFU |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:31:00 -
[118] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:If you have a K/D over 4.0 and u use lasers please STFU if you're too stupid to take down a LR scout, please STFU |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:36:00 -
[119] - Quote
everybody that uses laser K/D is probably over 4.0, It's pathetic, **** lasers |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:45:00 -
[120] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:everybody that uses laser K/D is probably over 4.0, It's pathetic, **** lasers It is indeed pathetic that people like you can't figure out how to take one down. I've never had trouble with lasers. |
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Lady Hyuna
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:55:00 -
[121] - Quote
I hate Grenades, this guy killed 3 of us at the same time lol, That will make me quit the game. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:58:00 -
[122] - Quote
that don rodie II has 168 likes is sad. f**king idiot |
Tribalfreak Baham
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:03:00 -
[123] - Quote
My my telling others to shut up when you can't even grasp the stupidity of your argument? Fine i'll break it down for you so you can understand.
1. the game is flooded with new players.
2. new players use low end gear that is hardly worth it
3. new players foolishly run around and get themselves killed.
4. new players are too individualistic to bother banding together to take down ONE guy in a SCOUT suit who can only fire in ONE direction at ONE target at a time.
in the face of all this, using a K/D as a measure of how OP a weapon is, most notably in a game like this that has so many other variables like mods, is utterly stupid and ********. new players are still figuring out the map layouts and mechanics of the game and are still using crappy armor that may as well be tin foil to non-militia weapons. The only pathetic one here is you. you're here QQing about lasers and aren't even looking at the big picture. i tried being civil and you simply showed how utterly moronic you are. if you and the team you are on are too fail to kill one guy, that's too damn bad. there is no need to nerf this gun. If you nerf lasers, you may as well nerf sniper rifles as well cos i dropped 5 guys couching down thinking they were hidden from everyone with one shot each. they may as well nerf MDs too cos i watched them kill off me and 3 guys. how about them heavy guns? no? then please STFU and learn2play. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:11:00 -
[124] - Quote
u are all ******* idiots **** this game and **** you. Piece of shyt game with crappy sound and graphics. Kiss my ******* azzholes. ******* biteches
Stupid azz EVE players making this game lame as hell, stupid muthfakas |
Tribalfreak Baham
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:13:00 -
[125] - Quote
have a nice day. you won't be missed |
Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:21:00 -
[126] - Quote
GM Vegas wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol. From the title of your thread I am assuming you are one of those "3" people? You might want to share a bit more information about it all in order to start a constructive conversation about the subject.
Lawl. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:23:00 -
[127] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:u are all ******* idiots **** this game and **** you. Piece of shyt game with crappy sound and graphics. Kiss my ******* azzholes. ******* biteches
Stupid azz EVE players making this game lame as hell, stupid muthfakas Dont hit the door with your thick head when you get out. |
Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:25:00 -
[128] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:I went 24-0 running people over in a LAV.
Nerf physics.
30-0 or gtfo. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:25:00 -
[129] - Quote
I won't this game is horrible, if mag failed this game damn sure isn't going to success idiot. You might as well stop wasting your time. I would rather play planetside 2 then this piece of shyt anyway |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
30
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:33:00 -
[130] - Quote
DON RODIE II wrote:u are all ******* idiots **** this game and **** you. Piece of shyt game with crappy sound and graphics. Kiss my ******* azzholes. ******* biteches
Stupid azz EVE players making this game lame as hell, stupid muthfakas
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, god.
Quote:K/d is meaningless at this point. like Cinnamon said, there are too many new players (like me) who basically make life easy for laser users. ask about K/D when everyone has better dropsuits and mods rather than generic builds they start off with.
It isn't even just LR users. People, in general, are having an easy time against new players. I just went 15 and 0 with an AR. And there's a video of someone going 31 and 0 with a shotgun. But, let's talk about laser rifles.
Quote: If you have a K/D over 4.0 and u use lasers please STFU
And people with a k/d over 4.0 who use other weapons? No mention of them.
What we can deduce here is a player is putting their inability to play properly as an issue with the game. Which is all kinds of amusing and getting angry at others. Which... is beautiful. My own corp members, like Beld, can flank me, beat me and make me run, even when I'm using a laser. Is he OP? No. Beld is a good player. Knows what to do and how to aim.
Same with the members from Imperfects, Zion and many, many other players. There are too many to list. TOO many. Because they don't stand in the open and expect to be invincible. You also talk about LR being super effective against a sniper. Any weapon is super effective against a sniper. They have to be stationary. And use scout suits. Which make them squishy as hell.
This topic should be locked. It's going nowhere. Since it isn't an issue about imbalance in the game as much as it is the players inability to play. Which will change over time. |
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SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:38:00 -
[131] - Quote
I like turtles! |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
324
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Posted - 2013.02.05 03:53:00 -
[132] - Quote
I very rarely die to lasers anymore. You just have to be aware of your surroundings and try to treat the game a little more like a war sim than quake. Use your head and your feet to stay alive and kill the enemy, the weapon you use is almost inconsequential at this point. I wind up at the top of the killboard or close to it in most matches, and I'm using an assault rifle. The laser is a lot harder to use. When I do use it, most of my kills come from people who have already been shot up by other players. The vast majority of my WPs come from kill assists. It just doesn't have the burst of killing power that the assault rifles have.
Something I've been wondering...people come along and say weapon X doesn't require any skill. Wtf does "skill" even mean? If aiming and positioning isn't skill then the only weapon that requires any skill is the mass driver. Should we remove all weapons but mass drivers? |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2013.02.05 04:03:00 -
[133] - Quote
This terrible thread still rolling on. You'all been trolled, anyone figure out what his main is yet? |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.05 04:04:00 -
[134] - Quote
dent 308 wrote:This terrible thread still rolling on. You'all been trolled, anyone figure out what his main is yet?
nope, doesn't sound like anyone i know from the forums.
got pretty obvious when he wouldn't stop commenting even after he said he was leaving.
besides. feeding trolls is fun |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
146
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Posted - 2013.02.05 04:11:00 -
[135] - Quote
GM Vegas wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol. From the title of your thread I am assuming you are one of those "3" people? You might want to share a bit more information about it all in order to start a constructive conversation about the subject. Rofl this guy posted another topic about how he hates our community and is quitting. I have to wonder if its Cuz of this response from gm... (Good response gm) |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 04:13:00 -
[136] - Quote
zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote:GM Vegas wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:I saw this guy with a laser kill 3 people at one time and he was a scout lol. From the title of your thread I am assuming you are one of those "3" people? You might want to share a bit more information about it all in order to start a constructive conversation about the subject. Rofl this guy posted another topic about how he hates our community and is quitting. I have to wonder if its Cuz of this response from gm... (Good response gm)
Yeah that dumb ass respond to me is part of the reason followed by stupid muthfukas thinking they game perfect = me not playing this game because of arrogant idiots and game being horrible. |
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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.02.05 04:15:00 -
[137] - Quote
Alright chaps, show's over. Initiating lockdown due to multiple forum rules violations. |
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