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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:36:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:so try lasers, then you will have tried all of them, then and only then will I start taking this thread seriously I tried lasers once actually, when the game was in close beta. They was boring to me so I stop after one time. I don't want to waste my skill points on something that is boring to me. Nope, I'm never using a laser again. Its about 100k isk and 12k sp points, it costs virtually nothing, so stop making ****** excuses and try something before you judge it |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:39:00 -
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Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. You're confusing correlation with causation. Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover. There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one.
QFT and +1
on the other hand why did you have to come in here being all logical & S**** he might stop posting and I'll have to quit laughing. |
Eggress
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:44:00 -
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I'm just a big meanie. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:45:00 -
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Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. You're confusing correlation with causation. Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover. There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one.
So if I make the mistake of running to a different location. I deserved to had got killed by a laser because I have to just stay as far as possible or hope that he doesn't see me so I can get close to him? |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:47:00 -
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lol They should just take lasers off this game....laser take no actual gaming skills and is a shame. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:48:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:I'm a heavy and I want l lasers left alone. No more nerfs. Everyone is after my HMG so I know how it feels to wield a hated weapon, but you should just learn to deal, not beg CCP to come and save you. I wish CCP would put all the weapons/suits/vehicles back to where they were before the tears, I really do. I WOULD agree with you. Except you obviously weren't here for the missile crisis (imagine infinite ranged, huge blast radius, OKH balls of death falling from the sky and blasting from every vehicle you encountered. Because that was what it was). Or immortal tanks. Or spamable remote explosives. Or AR's with 100% accuracy, no recoil, insane range through a whole clip and a dot sight.
Ppl can quit QQing about lasers, but QQing is the only reason this game is halfway playable right now. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:54:00 -
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when a guy kills me with a AR, pistol, mass driver, or sub machine gun. I say to my self. That guy was just better then me that time, but I will get him the next time. But when I get killled by a laser, I think to my self. That guy just using that weapon because he know it's op. The heavy machine gun kinda op. But at less you can run from him and get away sometimes. Laser you almost can never get a away. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:55:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:lol They should just take lasers off this game....laser take no actual gaming skills and is a shame. yeah like AR's take huge amount of "skill" as well |
Eggress
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:55:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. You're confusing correlation with causation. Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover. There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one. So if I make the mistake of running to a different location. I deserved to had got killed by a laser because I have to just stay as far as possible or hope that he doesn't see me so I can get close to him?
If you make the mistake of running to a different location without enough cover to survive on the way, yes you deserve to die. This isn't Halo. It's a game of stealth and cunning and as long as you keep trying to run 'n gun you are going to keep dying to anyone who's not. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:00:00 -
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Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Lasers are actually on the underpowered side of things. All you need to do to deal with them is make intelligent use of sight lines to get into your weapon's optimal range. I realize that is asking a lot of the cowadootie kids. Lasers lose any fight in which you are at optimal. Literally every weapon in the game trumps them. If you are aware of where they are shooting from there is nothing they can do to kill you - unless you make a mistake and leave yourself exposed.
Assault rifles are still disgustingly OP and probably always will be. if a guy with a laser is leading his teams with kills every time I play this game. That means laser rifles are op. You're confusing correlation with causation. Lasers are effective against stupid people who zerg around like idiots. They punish play mistakes. Don't make play mistakes and you'll never get killed by a laser, because the warmup time on the beam is longer than it takes to get into cover. There's also the little fact that lasers have some of the worst scaling across tech levels in the entire game. Good luck killing anyone in a well fit proto suit with one. So if I make the mistake of running to a different location. I deserved to had got killed by a laser because I have to just stay as far as possible or hope that he doesn't see me so I can get close to him? If you make the mistake of running to a different location without enough cover to survive on the way, yes you deserve to die. This isn't Halo. It's a game of stealth and cunning and as long as you keep trying to run 'n gun you are going to keep dying to anyone who's not.
How is this a game of stealth if it is no stealth weapons? I don't see any silencers on a weapon. Every weapon you can hear and I can bascially see people though walls coming at me lol |
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Eggress
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:02:00 -
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Maybe you should learn about the game mechanics before whining about what's OP and what's not. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:03:00 -
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Laser rock tbh
Its the snipers which ruin the game for everyone, also mass drivers who just spam it at you at point blank range and dont even cause damage to themselves |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:04:00 -
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This idiot is never gonna shut up. I vote we let the thread die, he's just trolling now |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:07:00 -
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gbghg wrote:This idiot is never gonna shut up. I vote we let the thread die, he's just trolling now
Dude stop getting sensitive, I just said what I was feeling after a match I had. Laser suck and going to be the reason I stop playing this game ( people like you make this game suck). |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:15:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Random stuff that I intend to make fun of.
Correct way of dealing with this scrub is to drive over his ass with a tank, repeatedly. Shooting him doesn't quite have the necessary "insult to injury" feeling.
Plus his laser is useless on a madrugar.
But more serious note: Do not know how many times i have to say this... get close to laser operators as fast as you can.
I demonstrated to one laser operator how his toy was useless by standing in the beam while laughing and shooting him in the face.
with a militia starter frontline fit. Just for the LOLz |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:23:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:This idiot is never gonna shut up. I vote we let the thread die, he's just trolling now Dude stop getting sensitive, I just said what I was feeling after a match I had. Laser suck and going to be the reason I stop playing this game ( people like you make this game suck). oh the irony is killing me |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:30:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:the guy had 20 kills and 0 deaths That means your team is incredibly stupid to not be able to take down a scout with a laser rifle- a terrible combination in itself. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:31:00 -
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And for the record, I mean terrible as in a terrible idea because you'll get killed in your face if you try it. |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:01:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. so you're complaining that your enemy is competent with his weapon? I bet everyone that comment on this thread likes and uses lasers lol I like to eat lasers for breakfast. Try using a mass driver next time bro. More than able to throw off their aim, and is a great weapon if you use it properly.
On a side note OP, you sound like you have a severe case of butthurt, and you should probably go see a doctor about it. While you;re there though, you might want to check and see if you have a concussion, because the only way you could be this stupid was to have hit your head VERY hard, and then drank a bottle of vodka. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:03:00 -
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Eggress wrote:Maybe you should learn about the game mechanics before whining about what's OP and what's not.
How do you simply learn if the devs are not teaching? In MAG at less the the DEVS had like 50 videos explaining what to do. For example wtf is a meta level? |
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:08:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:the guy had 20 kills and 0 deaths That's it? |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:13:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:Eggress wrote:Maybe you should learn about the game mechanics before whining about what's OP and what's not. How do you simply learn if the devs are not teaching? In MAG at less the the DEVS had like 50 videos explaining what to do. For example wtf is a meta level? Its the overall level of quality of an item, the higher the better. And yes everyone complains about the lack of tutorials, but please remember the training grounds exist, you got a question? go there. |
PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163
A.I.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:18:00 -
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lol whats with all the ignorant trolls. The guy simply post a topic about lasers being OP. Why not start a constructive conversation about it instead of being dicks you **** tards. How about we prove him wrong or right by stating wether or not its op.
Let me start. Lasers are quite powerful indeed. But the thing is that you should avoid and get to cover. I clarify this as a support weapon to get enemys in/out of cover, doing high damage at the same time.
( ******* ignorant people these days ) |
Grimmiers
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:21:00 -
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OP http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iXgsCPFhSgc#t=85s
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DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:22:00 -
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Tregar Kerrigan wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:gbghg wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:You shouldn't have run away from him When I use my lasers, I am at the tail end of most weapons max range, this happens to be the most effective range for a laser. So anyone who uses lasers properly may not die much and can get a lot of kills. If you would have gotten closer it would have been much harder for the LR. Also, upgrade your sharpshooter operation and you can at least force them into cover. I use LR it certain maps and scenarios, and I have my Light Sharpshooter skill up, so if you are 60-80m from me then, get cover. If you are within 30m, you probably have the upper hand against my LR, since it is much less effective and hard to aim up close. The laser rifle is not overpowered, it just has advantages and disadvantages that are not immediately obvious. Here is a list of weapon ranges and optimal range The thing is. I already know they good at long range. I cant run period. Once the guy with the laser see you, you die unless its some cover right next to you, then you can hope you make it between or behind it. so you're complaining that your enemy is competent with his weapon? I bet everyone that comment on this thread likes and uses lasers lol I like to eat lasers for breakfast. Try using a mass driver next time bro. More than able to throw off their aim, and is a great weapon if you use it properly. On a side note OP, you sound like you have a severe case of butthurt, and you should probably go see a doctor about it. While you;re there though, you might want to check and see if you have a concussion, because the only way you could be this stupid was to have hit your head VERY hard, and then drank a bottle of vodka. ok this the type of talk that gets dudes jaw broken, please STFU. Come to Chicago and lets talk. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:40:00 -
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lasers are like a long sword the size of a football field its not like a actual gun. They swinging them like a bat taking out entire squads. They horrible. |
Cless Vallein
Teknomen
37
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:42:00 -
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I hate lasers as well... But when you're right up on them and they try their lasers and find they are useless, I spin up my HMG and chew them up good... So satisfying |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:46:00 -
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they should make lasers cost a million lsk or make them like a killstreak, You can only get one if you reach 1000 WP. |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:50:00 -
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And you wonder, good sir, why we troll you. Laser rifles are just fine the way they are, in that they are effective in their optimal range, but are significantly less effective outside of it. Perhaps we should in fact model more weapons off the laser rifle, now that I think about it. |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
350
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Posted - 2013.02.05 00:50:00 -
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I went 24-0 running people over in a LAV.
Nerf physics. |
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