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BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:36:00 - [1] - Quote Dragonfly suit ,which you get for buying mercenary pack is too weak, even compared to militia equipment. Dragonfly attributes: Pg:30 > Cpu: 115 < [Shield]: 100 < [Armor]: 90 < Shield recharge rate: 40 > Basic Assault equipment that you get for free: Pg: 26 < Cpu:150 > Shield: 125 > Armor: 175 > Shield recharge rate: 15 < As some people will suggest I do not want to gain advantage over non-paying players but receiving a suit that is not as good as free ones is not nice.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:38:00 - [2] - Quote Doesn't it have an extra slot or two?
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:42:00 - [3] - Quote Low cpu prevents you to use boosters to make it AT LEAST as good as free ones.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:42:00 - [4] - Quote The dragonfly is a SCOUT dropsuit not assault, it's the same as a Type I Gallente Scout Dropsuit. If you want a bpo assault buy the "Raven" assault dropsuit.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:50:00 - [5] - Quote Ok.. But even the suit that free sniper use is better than dragonfly. I want it to be at least equally good as free one that you can use instead. The "SCOUT" does not mean it should be killed in a split second does it? What I want to say is that it can take some buff.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:54:00 - [6] - Quote The scout dropsuit's defense is sprinting. If an enemy so much as looks at you, you run. You have enough speed and stamina that you'll lose them quickly if you use cover. Then you circle around and shoot them in the back.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:57:00 - [7] - Quote I know that Scout's mission is to flank enemies but it is still underpowered. Once an enemy turns arround you are dead.
Jeremiad R Doomprofit Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 59	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:00:00 - [8] - Quote Not if he's dead first.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:02:00 - [9] - Quote You don't get the point. Scout dropsuit have smaller sig radius, better scan range and scan resolution. That means scouts are harder to find and can find others better. Last time i checked scout suits also had a reduction of the sniper rifle sway. The starter sniper fit is an assault suit with no tank, no damage and will be spotted by true snipers very fast. The point when sniping is to not be seen, not to tank. If i were to snipe i would use something like this: "Dragonfly" Scout dropsuit. -Charge sniper rifle -"toxin" smg --Light damage modifier -a module that reduce your signature (can't remember the name, it's a low power module, you can use milita one) - an armor repair -Nanohives
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:02:00 - [10] - Quote So an enemy starts to turn around...you immediately start sprinting if you can't kill him quickly. He might take your shields off, but if you picked your fight well you'll be in cover before you take much armor damage. Wait 2 or 3 seconds and you're back at full health again. If it was underpowered I wouldn't be able to go 30 / 2 in a dragonfly with 100% militia gear.

Kaiden Solian Red Lightning Industries 8	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:09:00 - [11] - Quote Forgot Skinweave scout dropsuit stats I think its about or higher slight than dragonfly dropsuit.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 73	Posted - 2013.01.30 19:31:00 - [12] - Quote I must really like a challenge then
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 19:39:00 - [13] - Quote I really think that this suit should have at least 160 shield inorder to be playable.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 435	Posted - 2013.01.30 19:52:00 - [14] - Quote The Dragonfly suit can't have better HP or CPU/PG because that would make it a pay to win suit instead of an exclusive vanity BPO. It being a BPO in itself is already beneficial.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 20:00:00 - [15] - Quote I do not know if it will make it pay to win but it is pay to die in these circumstances.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 285	Posted - 2013.01.30 20:05:00 - [16] - Quote HTFU
Tarquin Markel The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative 85	Posted - 2013.01.30 20:10:00 - [17] - Quote Dragonfly: essentially tier 1 quality without having to skill scout suits. Even a little bit. I use mine exclusively, and love the hell out of it. Sorry, man: the best defense for a scout is, "Don't get shot."
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2013.01.30 20:14:00 - [18] - Quote Also, scout suits get a hell of a lot better once your shield skills are up. Throw on some extenders and regulators. Your recharge delay will get so short that you'll start to regenerate shields while you're still being shot at. In the meantime, another crazy idea that actually works...armor plates. Seriously, they don't slow you down much and seriously reduce your margin for error when you start to take fire.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:24:00 - [19] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP Dragonflys are SCOUT suits. Scout suits are not the same as assault suits, assaults are not the same as heavy and none of them are the same as logistics. Pay attention to the forums and the in-game descriptions before you start making posts like this.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:33:00 - [20] - Quote I know what they are. Scout needs buff thats what I say. Read my previous comments before saying that I do not know what is scout.

Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:34:00 - [21] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: I know what they are. Scout needs buff thats what I say. Read my previous comments before saying that I do not know what is scout. my assessment stands given your gripe points.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:41:00 - [22] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: I know what they are. Scout needs buff thats what I say. Read my previous comments before saying that I do not know what is scout. Rofl if you give them more shields then you will just see all assaults go scout suits. They are supposed to die from a sneeze but be very fast and hard to see.
Zero Harpuia Maverick Conflict Solutions 422	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:48:00 - [23] - Quote Scout: A soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements. AKA, not the fellow doing the fighting. The Scoots in this here game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTfW4tuNWJc are a decent threat because they understand something you don't. They don't engage outright against hit-scan. You flank, you outdistance, or you bum-rush. The second you are found, you die. Don't like? Play Heavy.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:46:00 - [24] - Quote Did somebody hit you in the head when you were a kid? You compared a Scout suit to an Assault suit.. you are a moron.
Tarquin Markel The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative 85	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:52:00 - [25] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: I know what they are. Scout needs buff thats what I say. Read my previous comments before saying that I do not know what is scout. We did read it. You want a survivable scout suit, and you have the stats to prove a Dragonfly's not comparably survivable to even a militia assault suit when under fire. Scout suits are not built for straight-on combat. Period. If you get in a straight fight and win, it is because you fought extremely well or got lucky, not because that's your best tactic. The suit you want to compare the Dragonfly to if you're looking for why it's a good deal is the militia scout suit, which is what it shares its skill tier with. Scouts are not built for direct assault. They are built for stealth and superior awareness, the better to avoid straight fights. If you want straight fights, do not equip scout.
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:54:00 - [26] - Quote Scouts with the same shield/armour were overpowered in old build, so speed was reduced. I think they are fine now, but if they needed boost it would be to make speed higher, but lower then it was in e3/precursor build. Or to make the signature smaller then it is. The aur and booster alone are worth merc pack price. If you want bpo assault buy the raven suit, this is a white/black unlimited use type-I assault. Skinweave scout is identical to militia scout, dragonfly is identical to standard scout but needs no skills to use.
Arramakaian Eka Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:58:00 - [27] - Quote Shottie scout here, I run D'fly exclusively, and love it. The dual low power slots sporting profile dampeners and maxed out stealth skills makes me invisible to pretty much everybody on the field. They also give me enough flexibility to have another suit meant for capping or infiltration. More in my shotgun scout fit guide.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:31:00 - [28] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Did somebody hit you in the head when you were a kid? You compared a Scout suit to an Assault suit.. you are a moron. I think you need to leave this place. This place is called a forum in case you did not know. We are discussing ideas here you do not need to tell someone a moron. I guess you are the kid because you insult people just because they share their opinion. If you do not like the opinion of others just say: No they are fine, NOT "you are a moron". As for the assault comparison, I changed my mind that they should be equal but I want scouts to have a little bit more shield or armor since most of the time I can not even run and escape from combat most of the time.
Sytonis Auran Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:51:00 - [29] - Quote The stat on a scout suit that often gets overlooked is the shield recharge rate. Speed, which gets most of the attention gets you away from being shot, but its the insane recharge rate that gives you survivability. Couple a complex shield extender to give some buffer and a shield regulator and short breaks get you back in action almost straightaway. The Dragonfly suit is fine as it is, in my view.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2049	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:57:00 - [30] - Quote I think scouts should have better base scan precision on their "radar" and maybe a 5-10 point buff on their scan profile that should be it imo.



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