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BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:36:00 - [1] - Quote Dragonfly suit ,which you get for buying mercenary pack is too weak, even compared to militia equipment. Dragonfly attributes: Pg:30 > Cpu: 115 < [Shield]: 100 < [Armor]: 90 < Shield recharge rate: 40 > Basic Assault equipment that you get for free: Pg: 26 < Cpu:150 > Shield: 125 > Armor: 175 > Shield recharge rate: 15 < As some people will suggest I do not want to gain advantage over non-paying players but receiving a suit that is not as good as free ones is not nice.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:38:00 - [2] - Quote Doesn't it have an extra slot or two?
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:42:00 - [3] - Quote Low cpu prevents you to use boosters to make it AT LEAST as good as free ones.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:42:00 - [4] - Quote The dragonfly is a SCOUT dropsuit not assault, it's the same as a Type I Gallente Scout Dropsuit. If you want a bpo assault buy the "Raven" assault dropsuit.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:50:00 - [5] - Quote Ok.. But even the suit that free sniper use is better than dragonfly. I want it to be at least equally good as free one that you can use instead. The "SCOUT" does not mean it should be killed in a split second does it? What I want to say is that it can take some buff.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:54:00 - [6] - Quote The scout dropsuit's defense is sprinting. If an enemy so much as looks at you, you run. You have enough speed and stamina that you'll lose them quickly if you use cover. Then you circle around and shoot them in the back.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:57:00 - [7] - Quote I know that Scout's mission is to flank enemies but it is still underpowered. Once an enemy turns arround you are dead.
Jeremiad R Doomprofit Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 59	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:00:00 - [8] - Quote Not if he's dead first.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:02:00 - [9] - Quote You don't get the point. Scout dropsuit have smaller sig radius, better scan range and scan resolution. That means scouts are harder to find and can find others better. Last time i checked scout suits also had a reduction of the sniper rifle sway. The starter sniper fit is an assault suit with no tank, no damage and will be spotted by true snipers very fast. The point when sniping is to not be seen, not to tank. If i were to snipe i would use something like this: "Dragonfly" Scout dropsuit. -Charge sniper rifle -"toxin" smg --Light damage modifier -a module that reduce your signature (can't remember the name, it's a low power module, you can use milita one) - an armor repair -Nanohives
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:02:00 - [10] - Quote So an enemy starts to turn around...you immediately start sprinting if you can't kill him quickly. He might take your shields off, but if you picked your fight well you'll be in cover before you take much armor damage. Wait 2 or 3 seconds and you're back at full health again. If it was underpowered I wouldn't be able to go 30 / 2 in a dragonfly with 100% militia gear.

Kaiden Solian Red Lightning Industries 8	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:09:00 - [11] - Quote Forgot Skinweave scout dropsuit stats I think its about or higher slight than dragonfly dropsuit.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 73	Posted - 2013.01.30 19:31:00 - [12] - Quote I must really like a challenge then
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 19:39:00 - [13] - Quote I really think that this suit should have at least 160 shield inorder to be playable.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 435	Posted - 2013.01.30 19:52:00 - [14] - Quote The Dragonfly suit can't have better HP or CPU/PG because that would make it a pay to win suit instead of an exclusive vanity BPO. It being a BPO in itself is already beneficial.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 20:00:00 - [15] - Quote I do not know if it will make it pay to win but it is pay to die in these circumstances.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 285	Posted - 2013.01.30 20:05:00 - [16] - Quote HTFU
Tarquin Markel The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative 85	Posted - 2013.01.30 20:10:00 - [17] - Quote Dragonfly: essentially tier 1 quality without having to skill scout suits. Even a little bit. I use mine exclusively, and love the hell out of it. Sorry, man: the best defense for a scout is, "Don't get shot."
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2013.01.30 20:14:00 - [18] - Quote Also, scout suits get a hell of a lot better once your shield skills are up. Throw on some extenders and regulators. Your recharge delay will get so short that you'll start to regenerate shields while you're still being shot at. In the meantime, another crazy idea that actually works...armor plates. Seriously, they don't slow you down much and seriously reduce your margin for error when you start to take fire.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:24:00 - [19] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERPDERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP Dragonflys are SCOUT suits. Scout suits are not the same as assault suits, assaults are not the same as heavy and none of them are the same as logistics. Pay attention to the forums and the in-game descriptions before you start making posts like this.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:33:00 - [20] - Quote I know what they are. Scout needs buff thats what I say. Read my previous comments before saying that I do not know what is scout.

Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:34:00 - [21] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: I know what they are. Scout needs buff thats what I say. Read my previous comments before saying that I do not know what is scout. my assessment stands given your gripe points.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:41:00 - [22] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: I know what they are. Scout needs buff thats what I say. Read my previous comments before saying that I do not know what is scout. Rofl if you give them more shields then you will just see all assaults go scout suits. They are supposed to die from a sneeze but be very fast and hard to see.
Zero Harpuia Maverick Conflict Solutions 422	Posted - 2013.01.30 21:48:00 - [23] - Quote Scout: A soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements. AKA, not the fellow doing the fighting. The Scoots in this here game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTfW4tuNWJc are a decent threat because they understand something you don't. They don't engage outright against hit-scan. You flank, you outdistance, or you bum-rush. The second you are found, you die. Don't like? Play Heavy.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:46:00 - [24] - Quote Did somebody hit you in the head when you were a kid? You compared a Scout suit to an Assault suit.. you are a moron.
Tarquin Markel The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative 85	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:52:00 - [25] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: I know what they are. Scout needs buff thats what I say. Read my previous comments before saying that I do not know what is scout. We did read it. You want a survivable scout suit, and you have the stats to prove a Dragonfly's not comparably survivable to even a militia assault suit when under fire. Scout suits are not built for straight-on combat. Period. If you get in a straight fight and win, it is because you fought extremely well or got lucky, not because that's your best tactic. The suit you want to compare the Dragonfly to if you're looking for why it's a good deal is the militia scout suit, which is what it shares its skill tier with. Scouts are not built for direct assault. They are built for stealth and superior awareness, the better to avoid straight fights. If you want straight fights, do not equip scout.
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:54:00 - [26] - Quote Scouts with the same shield/armour were overpowered in old build, so speed was reduced. I think they are fine now, but if they needed boost it would be to make speed higher, but lower then it was in e3/precursor build. Or to make the signature smaller then it is. The aur and booster alone are worth merc pack price. If you want bpo assault buy the raven suit, this is a white/black unlimited use type-I assault. Skinweave scout is identical to militia scout, dragonfly is identical to standard scout but needs no skills to use.
Arramakaian Eka Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2013.01.30 22:58:00 - [27] - Quote Shottie scout here, I run D'fly exclusively, and love it. The dual low power slots sporting profile dampeners and maxed out stealth skills makes me invisible to pretty much everybody on the field. They also give me enough flexibility to have another suit meant for capping or infiltration. More in my shotgun scout fit guide.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:31:00 - [28] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Did somebody hit you in the head when you were a kid? You compared a Scout suit to an Assault suit.. you are a moron. I think you need to leave this place. This place is called a forum in case you did not know. We are discussing ideas here you do not need to tell someone a moron. I guess you are the kid because you insult people just because they share their opinion. If you do not like the opinion of others just say: No they are fine, NOT "you are a moron". As for the assault comparison, I changed my mind that they should be equal but I want scouts to have a little bit more shield or armor since most of the time I can not even run and escape from combat most of the time.
Sytonis Auran Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:51:00 - [29] - Quote The stat on a scout suit that often gets overlooked is the shield recharge rate. Speed, which gets most of the attention gets you away from being shot, but its the insane recharge rate that gives you survivability. Couple a complex shield extender to give some buffer and a shield regulator and short breaks get you back in action almost straightaway. The Dragonfly suit is fine as it is, in my view.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2049	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:57:00 - [30] - Quote I think scouts should have better base scan precision on their "radar" and maybe a 5-10 point buff on their scan profile that should be it imo.

BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.30 23:59:00 - [31] - Quote I will try the tactis that you guys gave. Thanks for all replies except the Jason Pearson who is obviously a kid or a disrespectful redneck.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2049	Posted - 2013.01.31 00:05:00 - [32] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: I will try the tactis that you guys gave. Thanks for all replies except the Jason Pearson who is obviously a kid or a disrespectful redneck. But he is a child redneck with a point.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 15	Posted - 2013.01.31 00:09:00 - [33] - Quote Although he has a point his way of telling his opinion does not make it any good. We can tell ideas/thoughts without insulting people. I hope you are capable of understanding what I am saying.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1062	Posted - 2013.01.31 00:11:00 - [34] - Quote It's a type 1 scout BPO- what more do you want?
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2049	Posted - 2013.01.31 00:13:00 - [35] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Although he has a point his way of telling his opinion does not make it any good. We can tell ideas/thoughts without insulting people. I hope you are capable of understanding what I am saying. Awww quit being a pus$y
Mars El'Theran Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness 52	Posted - 2013.01.31 01:24:00 - [36] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: You don't get the point. Scout dropsuit have smaller sig radius, better scan range and scan resolution. That means scouts are harder to find and can find others better. Last time i checked scout suits also had a reduction of the sniper rifle sway. The starter sniper fit is an assault suit with no tank, no damage and will be spotted by true snipers very fast. The point when sniping is to not be seen, not to tank. If i were to snipe i would use something like this: "Dragonfly" Scout dropsuit. -Charge sniper rifle -"toxin" smg --Light damage modifier -a module that reduce your signature (can't remember the name, it's a low power module, you can use milita one) - an armor repair -Nanohives Unless you have more than one low, you'll need to choose between the armor repair and the scan profile dampener. In which case, choose the scan profile dampener or something else. Really, if you are sniping with it as that fit, then you'll not need the dampener as you'll be at range anyway. Just remember that most snipers die in one shot to other snipers. They can't take a hit even from a militia sniper rifle afaik. I'm fairly certain my assault snip fit only rarely survives it. That basically means you might as well skip tank entirely, aside from some concern about players sneaking up on you. You can't fit for everything, so you'll have to choose. A Stimulant to increase your speed might be more practical. edit: if it does have 2 lows then I suppose that's pretty awesome but I wouldn't use them for armor unless I wasn't sniping. I'd also drop the SMG in favor of a sidearm or Nova Knife. Probably a sidearm given its range, damage, and accuracy. I've found SMGs to be rather useless on a number of my fits.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2013.01.31 01:47:00 - [37] - Quote Sytonis Auran wrote: The stat on a scout suit that often gets overlooked is the shield recharge rate. Speed, which gets most of the attention gets you away from being shot, but its the insane recharge rate that gives you survivability. Couple a complex shield extender to give some buffer and a shield regulator and short breaks get you back in action almost straightaway. The Dragonfly suit is fine as it is, in my view. Scout suits ability to get back to full shield HP is often misinterpreted as a strength. Well, scout DOES get to full HP quickly, but the speed of the recharge (not talking about delay here) is fast because total HP is very low, hence making it fast to get to full HP. Recharge delay is good as it really is somewhat smaller, but not fast enough to be a strength to rely on.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2049	Posted - 2013.01.31 01:49:00 - [38] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Sytonis Auran wrote: The stat on a scout suit that often gets overlooked is the shield recharge rate. Speed, which gets most of the attention gets you away from being shot, but its the insane recharge rate that gives you survivability. Couple a complex shield extender to give some buffer and a shield regulator and short breaks get you back in action almost straightaway. The Dragonfly suit is fine as it is, in my view. Scout suits ability to get back to full shield HP is often misinterpreted as a strength. Well, scout DOES get to full HP quickly, but the speed of the recharge (not talking about delay here) is fast because total HP is very low, hence making it fast to get to full HP. Recharge delay is good as it really is somewhat smaller, but not fast enough to be a strength to rely on. The recharge rate is actually faster then other suits as well as having to recharge less hp.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2013.01.31 01:57:00 - [39] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Dragonfly suit ,which you get for buying mercenary pack is too weak, even compared to militia equipment. . Dragonfly suit is AWESOME. I've used that for every character of mine at all SP levels, since the introduction of merc pack. Skinweave BPO is the same as militia. Those are weak. Dragonfly BPO is the same as basic/standard. Basic is far better than militia, extra PG+CPU+slot. I rest my case.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2013.01.31 01:59:00 - [40] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Sytonis Auran wrote: The stat on a scout suit that often gets overlooked is the shield recharge rate. Speed, which gets most of the attention gets you away from being shot, but its the insane recharge rate that gives you survivability. Couple a complex shield extender to give some buffer and a shield regulator and short breaks get you back in action almost straightaway. The Dragonfly suit is fine as it is, in my view. Scout suits ability to get back to full shield HP is often misinterpreted as a strength. Well, scout DOES get to full HP quickly, but the speed of the recharge (not talking about delay here) is fast because total HP is very low, hence making it fast to get to full HP. Recharge delay is good as it really is somewhat smaller, but not fast enough to be a strength to rely on. The recharge rate is actually faster then other suits as well as having to recharge less hp. Yes it is, but most of the effect people see is because of low HP. The fact that a suit has low HP makes fast recharge and recharge delay LESS valuable.

Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.31 02:09:00 - [41] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Although he has a point his way of telling his opinion does not make it any good. We can tell ideas/thoughts without insulting people. I hope you are capable of understanding what I am saying. if you don't grow a thicker skin, this forum community is going to eat you alive. Quit looking at me like that while I marinate you in the Forum Cannibal Secret Sauce. Hold still.
Sytonis Auran Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.01.31 23:55:00 - [42] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Sytonis Auran wrote: The stat on a scout suit that often gets overlooked is the shield recharge rate. Speed, which gets most of the attention gets you away from being shot, but its the insane recharge rate that gives you survivability. Couple a complex shield extender to give some buffer and a shield regulator and short breaks get you back in action almost straightaway. The Dragonfly suit is fine as it is, in my view. Scout suits ability to get back to full shield HP is often misinterpreted as a strength. Well, scout DOES get to full HP quickly, but the speed of the recharge (not talking about delay here) is fast because total HP is very low, hence making it fast to get to full HP. Recharge delay is good as it really is somewhat smaller, but not fast enough to be a strength to rely on. Do you play the same on full health, or low health, or somewhere in between? Conversely, do you attack someone more aggressively when you see they are on low health? Constantly being back to full health is a psychological strength for me and players underestimating low shield/armour bars is a bonus. So yes, for me its a strength.
Snaps Tremor Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 41	Posted - 2013.02.01 01:28:00 - [43] - Quote If you don't know what is scout, you're not ready to say whether any part of the game needs a buff or a nerf. Play more, get better, and understand why you're the only one asking for this.
Loki Shadow Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:32:00 - [44] - Quote Question when it said Unlimited beside it. Dose it mean when you die you still have that suit?
ARF 1049 The Phoenix Federation 9	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:03:00 - [45] - Quote scouts are backstabbing cowards :) you flank and get a weapon that will 1 hit kill thats why you see shotgun scouts quite a bit your never supposed to be seen your supposed to take out the lone blueberry not the group of heavies >_>
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 475	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:33:00 - [46] - Quote why on god's green earth are you comparing a scout suit to a assault suit?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 10	Posted - 2013.04.05 07:44:00 - [47] - Quote Scouts in general need a buff, yes. 'Speed' is not a significant enough advantage when a Type-II Assault is very close to the same speed. When active scanners come in the signature radius will be more important but to take full advantage of the Scout's speed you need to sprint, which kind of invalidates the advantage of signature radius.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 183	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:31:00 - [48] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Dragonfly suit ,which you get for buying mercenary pack is too weak, even compared to militia equipment. Dragonfly attributes: Pg:30 > Cpu: 115 < [Shield]: 100 < [Armor]: 90 < Shield recharge rate: 40 > Basic Assault equipment that you get for free: Pg: 26 < Cpu:150 > Shield: 125 > Armor: 175 > Shield recharge rate: 15 < As some people will suggest I do not want to gain advantage over non-paying players but receiving a suit that is not as good as free ones is not nice. You can't compare those suits! The Dragonfly Scout suit is the equivalent to the Scout Type-I, as it should be. If you have a problem with that, kindly get the **** out of Dust, because I don't want CCP constantly hearing the whining about how you can't pay to win despite all the advantages you receive from using actual money.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2386	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:52:00 - [49] - Quote Dragonfly, like the Standard Scout suit, has 2 low slots. Militia Scout doesn't. Skinweave doesn't. Militia ASSAULT doesn't. Scouts get 25m scan radius - much better than the Assault's 15. Scouts get a shorter regen delay than Assaults (although the depleted delay is the same). Scouts get slightly better scan profile than Assaults (45 vs. 50) and notably better precision (45 vs. 55). Scouts get better base movement and sprint speed than Assaults. If you're not taking advantage of the advantages of the suit, that isn't the game's fault. ISK value vs. ISK value, Dragonfly fittings are some of the best in the game.
Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 640	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:59:00 - [50] - Quote I liked the part where OP was like "don't call me names you disrespectful redneck".

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2386	Posted - 2013.04.05 10:04:00 - [51] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Scouts in general need a buff, yes. 'Speed' is not a significant enough advantage when a Type-II Assault is very close to the same speed. When active scanners come in the signature radius will be more important but to take full advantage of the Scout's speed you need to sprint, which kind of invalidates the advantage of signature radius. ...until you realise that sprinting doesn't affect your scan profile. Seriously. Tested, verified, proven, AND stated publicly by the devs in the thread about equipment (although there was some misinformation from them as well).
lok rark sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2013.06.05 12:52:00 - [52] - Quote Being a n00b I don't like to butt in especially when im trying to log into dust but.... your talking rubbish. The Dragonfly in the merc set is actually an assault suit. Not a scout. Dragonfly assault [NSV] SLOTS 2lp, 2hp, 2 wep, 1 inf Dragonfly scout [NSV] SLOTS 2lp, 1hp, 2wep, 1 inf, 1scg are totally different. I know because i have both. The scout is similar to the CQC scout. Dfly scout is my fav suit. But only because i did the core/sheild upgrades etc to pack the extra cpu and pg. I know its only a learner scout but it frees me up to sp on my heavy. :D Anyway the merc pack has the assault not the scout. See i could have logged in by now :p
endezeichen grimm Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.11 22:58:00 - [53] - Quote [b]What does nsv mean?/b]
lok rark StealthSquad 0	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:34:00 - [54] - Quote I dont know and I wouldn't like to guess... cause apparently im talking rubbish.... I heard the scout WAS in the merc pack and they changed it. I am un-sure if the scout merc pack came with the toxin assault or the toxin sub. (I prefer syndicate over toxin sub) They should change the suits around more, you could get a different one every month. Also its Bulls%$t that the price is so different between countries.
lok rark StealthSquad 0	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:39:00 - [55] - Quote Actually the "Dragonfly"'s need some serious explination for how they can gain bonus. I heard caldari would upgrade your dragonfly but not from official CCCP sources ;) and weather Caldari up's both "fly" suits.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 12	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:47:00 - [56] - Quote Sytonis Auran wrote: The stat on a scout suit that often gets overlooked is the shield recharge rate. Speed, which gets most of the attention gets you away from being shot, but its the insane recharge rate that gives you survivability. Couple a complex shield extender to give some buffer and a shield regulator and short breaks get you back in action almost straightaway. The Dragonfly suit is fine as it is, in my view. Recharge rate of 40 is great man, paired up with an enhanced recharger, man that thing skyrockets. It's not the best because it takes a lot of cpu/pg. I think you'll shine with the regulator though. If you have the Dragonfly Scout suit, be the dragonfly.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 277	Posted - 2013.06.17 12:23:00 - [57] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Dragonfly suit ,which you get for buying mercenary pack is too weak, even compared to militia equipment. Dragonfly attributes: Pg:30 > Cpu: 115 < [Shield]: 100 < [Armor]: 90 < Shield recharge rate: 40 > Basic Assault equipment that you get for free: Pg: 26 < Cpu:150 > Shield: 125 > Armor: 175 > Shield recharge rate: 15 < As some people will suggest I do not want to gain advantage over non-paying players but receiving a suit that is not as good as free ones is not nice. The stats on the Dragonfly suit are different than that. PG:30 CPU:125 Shield:70 Armor:130


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