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Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.29 14:14:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:So now you people are saying that the new players' dislike of this game is their own fault. Not the game's fault...not the developer's fault...but their own fault because they...failed to force themselves to enjoy the game?...
Are you guys for real? Like, does this sort of logic even exist outside of the internet? You do have a point, but the situation we're looking at here is bad PR about DUST, a large part of which is based on total ignorance. There are many valid reasons to criticize DUST, however, when peeps are so friggin' dense that they don't realize you can modify your dropsuit fittings or train skills and then publicly trash the product then yes there is a problem, and peeps who care about the success of DUST should be out there fighting the mouthbreathers when they can. And if you read some of those reviews, from individuals AND the press, it's obvious that they spent an hour or two with the game, failed the intelligence test, and are now out there spewing their gems of wisdom to the world. Personally, i don't give a kittenfart, because i think that the success of DUST is virtually guaranteed at this point(yes, we all, Devs and testers, have a kittenload of work to do still), and I don't want the mouthbreathers anywhere near this game - there's lots of FPSs out there for them already. Is it their fault? I dunno, but I sure as hell don't want them. Maybe they've got friends who will hold their hand and explain the game to them some day and they'll come back into New Eden so the rest of us can prey on them. I don't like trying to convince people the game is good. The game should speak for itself |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:39:00 -
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Anyone claiming COD and BF as being realistic or having any realism at all are moronic. |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:56:00 -
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I wish I understood what is so complex about Dust compared to any other shooter.
When it gets down to the nitty gritty, Skirmish mode is just a carbon copy of Battlefield's Conquest mode.
The economy and drop suit customization aren't especially deep or complex at all.
In game, you capture objectives and pew pew at the other team.
The problem Dust has is that it's technically a good distance behind the others.
I hope this supposed new build will address some of those complaints. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
674
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Posted - 2013.01.31 10:25:00 -
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Regis Mk V wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Schazla wrote:I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player. I havn't touched bf3 since I started playing dust a year ago, bf3 just doesn't do it for me anymore. Dust is what bf3 SHOULD have been, frostbite 2 is just eye candy, it means nothing if the gameplay is not there. Are you really saying that Dust has better gameplay than BF3? Are you dumb or just plain stupid?!
I guess I'm just not a bf3 fanboy as much as you are boyo. Do I think dust looks better? No not right now, but i started gaming on NES and digital game watches back in the early 80's so graphics don't bother me. As for gameplay, yes I do think dust has better gameplay than bf3, and that's to be expected because a % of ex dice are employed by ccp, so put those two together and you get something like dust (gameplay similar to bf 2142, the best bf in my book), the deep skill system that takes brains to work out, large scale maps, good teamwork, FREE expansion packs (keep your $15 four map 'expansions' dice, we get ours for nada/zip/zero/nowt/nil/nothin. Also dust has a more mature player base (majority is 21+) with no annoying little brats with Mickey Mouse voices who think cod was the first ever fps. The forums are a place people enjoy, as opposed to the bf3 forums where you get cyber a$$ raped if your kdr is not good or your not a premium player. In dust we are all equal, we all play the game, we enjoy the game, and we don't give a damn about kdr.
So I think the above are just a FEW reasons why dust is better than bf3 |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.31 11:10:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:So now you people are saying that the new players' dislike of this game is their own fault. Not the game's fault...not the developer's fault...but their own fault because they...failed to force themselves to enjoy the game?...
Are you guys for real? Like, does this sort of logic even exist outside of the internet? that or he could also be saying BF community consists of mostly dbags which i highly agree with
what is the BF3 community's favorite catch phrase? .. COD is that way? well they can live by there own words now |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.31 11:25:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:HERP DERP DERP DERP DERP HERP DERP HERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP!
This is literally all I see in your posts.
Relevance, motherfracker! Can you understand it? Because you proved yourself irrelevant to the conversation with your stupid BF3 leghump.
Most of us who really, really like DUST enjoy the fact that you can play it without double dosing on ritalin while taking a hit of meth.
DUST seems to be geared for adults, not hyperactive fifteen year olds. The very idea is just effing magical. |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2013.01.31 11:40:00 -
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People who like PacMan say Space Invaders is pants. Some of the time they do this without giving Space Invaders a proper try. Space Invaders fans get upset.
Now, Space Invaders is a good game, but clearly not perfect. Then again, the same can be said of PacMan.
Anyway, Space Invaders fans have a number of options...
1. Whinge and moan. It doesn't change anything, but it makes them feel better. 2. Sulk in a corner. 3. Trashtalk PacMan to get revenge. 4. Help the game developers improve the game, by finding bugs and providing constructive criticism. 5. Educating the community; helping new players, posting positive comments to counter negative ones, etc. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.01.31 11:53:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:In dust we are all equal, we all play the game, we enjoy the game, and we don't give a damn about kdr. And some of us are more equal than others.
Besides, who gives half a **** about people on some random game forum? This community is the only thing that matters and we're going to grow organically for years to come so stop worrying and learn to love the complexity. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2013.01.31 12:53:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote:I wish I understood what is so complex about Dust compared to any other shooter.
When it gets down to the nitty gritty, Skirmish mode is just a carbon copy of Battlefield's Conquest mode.
The economy and drop suit customization aren't especially deep or complex at all.
In game, you capture objectives and pew pew at the other team.
The problem Dust has is that it's technically a good distance behind the others.
I hope this supposed new build will address some of those complaints.
You do know that as we expand the economy is going to get more complex right...?
Lol we can't even sale equipment yet so yeah the "economy" is nonexistent right now.
Also. This thread is full of butt hurt from other people getting butt hurt about other people being butt hurt.
Some people like the game, others don't. Stop crying over spilled milk. |
Regis Mk V
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2013.01.31 14:12:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Regis Mk V wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Schazla wrote:I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player. I havn't touched bf3 since I started playing dust a year ago, bf3 just doesn't do it for me anymore. Dust is what bf3 SHOULD have been, frostbite 2 is just eye candy, it means nothing if the gameplay is not there. Are you really saying that Dust has better gameplay than BF3? Are you dumb or just plain stupid?! I guess I'm just not a bf3 fanboy as much as you are boyo. Do I think dust looks better? No not right now, but i started gaming on NES and digital game watches back in the early 80's so graphics don't bother me. As for gameplay, yes I do think dust has better gameplay than bf3, and that's to be expected because a % of ex dice are employed by ccp, so put those two together and you get something like dust (gameplay similar to bf 2142, the best bf in my book), the deep skill system that takes brains to work out, large scale maps, good teamwork, FREE expansion packs (keep your $15 four map 'expansions' dice, we get ours for nada/zip/zero/nowt/nil/nothin. Also dust has a more mature player base (majority is 21+) with no annoying little brats with Mickey Mouse voices who think cod was the first ever fps. The forums are a place people enjoy, as opposed to the bf3 forums where you get cyber a$$ raped if your kdr is not good or your not a premium player. In dust we are all equal, we all play the game, we enjoy the game, and we don't give a damn about kdr. So I think the above are just a FEW reasons why dust is better than bf3
So you are stupid and a Dust fanboy. Because if you think Dust plays better than BF3 something is totally wrong with.
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.31 14:20:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower to win a fire fight.
In this game you dont have to have reflexes nor mental acuity to win (as we can see with MANY of the "best" players) its more of an equipment war. You have higher armor so even though that player aims better and hits you more, you win because you can take more damage.
Battlefield players would eat dusties alive if the field were even and everyone was forced to wear the same outfitting. Thankfully for all of you MMO players its an equipment thing so you dont have to be good, just farm isk and be better equipped. The way dust works.
Wait, so what you're saying is that if a player is a battle field 3 player there is some hidden code that prevents them from getting a few of the better items?
And that no one that has ever played battlefield 3 was allowed into the dust beta until it went open beta and by that time they were all at a disadvantage because the game was full of WoW Isk farmers that had already won, and the BF 3 players just couldn't compete so they took their toys and went home?
This is funny tuff talk you do. It is like when you go into a bar, etc. get tanked and get in a scuffle, and you're all like, "I could of taken that guy. I could have. If he wasn't such kitten." Yeah, Battlefield 3 players could have won DUST but DUST was stupid."
I am slow and understand the gear. Players with fast reaction time will wipe the floor with me in a one on one no matter how much proto gear I am dragging around the field. I have to use my mental acuity to avoid any sort of 1 v 1 whenever possible. I get most of my kills by using cover and sometimes waiting for back up. Simple as that.
There is nothing to prevent any gamer from jumping into DUST 514 and using their particular talents to prevail. Except lack of effort. This game tends to give back what you put into it.
If all you invest in the game is, "Pfft that was suck stupid poop" That is what you will get out of it.
Edit* None of the above should be taken as being directed at any Battlefield 3 players. But at the tuff guy talk in the quoted post which was annoying. Was that poster an official Battlefield 3 rep? Do they speak for all Battle field 3 players everywhere? Who knows. But I am sure that people who play Battlefield 3, just like with any game, are a lot more diverse and a lot less stereotypical than described in the quoted post. |
Muramasa Armads
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
4
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Posted - 2013.01.31 14:51:00 -
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I usually never post, but since this thread is about Battlefield 3 and Dust 514 I will give an opinion. The first mistake the poster of this thread made was going to battlelog and looking for intelligent or positive feedback on Dust 514. You will find mostly egotistical jerks, chronic complainers, or trolls on that forum.
I come from the battlefield series, so I am familiar with Battlefield 3 and Bad Company 2. My Battlefield 3 account is Muramasa91 if youGÇÖre curious about my stats. I see you guys have been arguing over the differences between Dust 514 and BF3. ItGÇÖs hard to compare them because they are dramatically different games. Dust 514 has shields and armor; whereas Battlefield 3 relies on a 100% HP bar. One relies more on strategy the other on reflexes. I noticed no one has talked about the suppression mechanics in BF3. This is a key difference between the two games. The suppression mechanics blur your screen and increase the recoil. Imagine how much suppression a HMG could produce? Another difference is the maximum amount of people allowed in a match. BF3 can only have 24 people total; whereas Dust 514 has 32 people already and plans to have more soon. The number of people allowed in a game is significant because in BF3 is easy to play by yourself, but in Dust 514 itGÇÖs hard as hell. In BF3 I could easily wander off on my own and dominate matches, but in Dust 514 I get annihilated if I wander away from my squad.
I also see you guys are comparing the developers of BF3 and Dust 514. At times I have been frustrated with the lack of content that CCP has given us and they have been deserving of criticism, but I have to laugh at some of the idiots in this thread touting DICE as the standard. Keep in mind when you compare the two that DICE has had multiple games under its belt; whereas with CCP this is their first attempt at a first person shooter. I have seen some say that BF3 has better graphics which is true, but does that really make DICE superior to CCP? Since we are discussing some of the problems with Dust 514 allow me to show you some of the problems that BF3 has had.
BF3 literally has a level called Operation Firestorm that has areas where your character can trip and die. At least with Dust 514 I donGÇÖt have to worry about stepping into the wrong area and dying instantly because of crappy level development. BF3 boasted about having the Frostbite 2 engine which meant better destruction graphics, but anyone that played Bad Company 2 could tell you that itGÇÖs not even close to the first Frostbite. One of the biggest problems in BF3 is weapon balance. BF3 has a lazy weapon model where assault rifles or guns with high rate of fire dominate. There is actual variety in Dust 514 when it comes to weapons and you actually do have disadvantages with your preferred choice of weapon. This quality is non-existent in BF3 because the best guns can be used to dominate at all ranges. The talk of OP weapons in Dust makes me laugh because the OP weaponry in BF3 was far worse. Look up on you tube MAVkilling, UDartBro, and USAS with Frags for BF3 and tell me if that isnGÇÖt OP. The worst part is that if you wanted to give direct feedback on BF3 to developers you had to go to some dopes twitter account to do it. At least CCP communicates with us through the forums when they want feedback. I could list more, but this post is longer than I expected.
I want to make clear that BF3 is a fun game and it does have its pros. But, I have to debunk this myth that BF3 is a level of quality that Dust 514 canGÇÖt reach.
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
674
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Posted - 2013.01.31 14:54:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:In dust we are all equal, we all play the game, we enjoy the game, and we don't give a damn about kdr. And some of us are more equal than others. Besides, who gives half a **** about people on some random game forum? This community is the only thing that matters and we're going to grow organically for years to come so stop worrying and learn to love the complexity.
Bro you read my whole post right? Do I look worried? Lol |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
674
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Posted - 2013.01.31 14:57:00 -
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Regis Mk V wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Regis Mk V wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Schazla wrote:I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player. I havn't touched bf3 since I started playing dust a year ago, bf3 just doesn't do it for me anymore. Dust is what bf3 SHOULD have been, frostbite 2 is just eye candy, it means nothing if the gameplay is not there. Are you really saying that Dust has better gameplay than BF3? Are you dumb or just plain stupid?! I guess I'm just not a bf3 fanboy as much as you are boyo. Do I think dust looks better? No not right now, but i started gaming on NES and digital game watches back in the early 80's so graphics don't bother me. As for gameplay, yes I do think dust has better gameplay than bf3, and that's to be expected because a % of ex dice are employed by ccp, so put those two together and you get something like dust (gameplay similar to bf 2142, the best bf in my book), the deep skill system that takes brains to work out, large scale maps, good teamwork, FREE expansion packs (keep your $15 four map 'expansions' dice, we get ours for nada/zip/zero/nowt/nil/nothin. Also dust has a more mature player base (majority is 21+) with no annoying little brats with Mickey Mouse voices who think cod was the first ever fps. The forums are a place people enjoy, as opposed to the bf3 forums where you get cyber a$$ raped if your kdr is not good or your not a premium player. In dust we are all equal, we all play the game, we enjoy the game, and we don't give a damn about kdr. So I think the above are just a FEW reasons why dust is better than bf3 So you are stupid and a Dust fanboy. Because if you think Dust plays better than BF3 something is totally wrong with.
That's your only response? You can't do better than that? Why don't you justify why bf3 is the alpha fps over dust? And try not to include the fact we are still in beta as a means to be critical to dust.
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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.31 15:28:00 -
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I played BF3 for a Long time. I got great at it, even bought the expansions. But then the patches can in. They completely f***ed the game up. Every weapon has gotten a nerf, there is little to no teamwork involved and the game is pretty much another mindless shooter. They took out the importance of vehicles and made them completely useless, they completely screwed up the guns, and now it's just a cash in.
Regis, you probably haven't played BF2, because if you had, you'd know how much crappier BF3 is in comparison. Fancy graphics can't fix up broken game play. Dust actually has a chance because the devs are changing game play, individual suits matter, but can't change the battle completely, and vehicles play important roles. And it's still beta.
Sure, the animations and fluidity could use some work, but that's why it's in beta. Also, Battlefield will be $60 for the same thing every year, classic EA, while Dust will keep growing with optional AUR purchases. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.31 18:05:00 -
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Regis Mk V wrote:
So you are stupid and a Dust fanboy.
Nothing like a good fanboy rumble to start the day.
Good times. But I had to laugh at a not so secret love affair with DUST 514
"Oh my god this game sucks so hard and I should know i have been playing it every day since I got in to the beta a year ago."
Meanwhile at the DUST gang's favorite haunt, DUST clubhouse:
"Hey, I hear the BF 3 gang is talking some smack! let's start something!"
And there's always that one kid:
"Guys, guys, the DUST gang wants to start something! You should hear what they are saying over at the DUST clubhouse! Guys! Guys! And I know they are the worst gang ever! I hang out with them all the time! GuysGǪ?" |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2013.01.31 18:09:00 -
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I play Battelfield3, and Dust514. I have played Dust514 for seven months now, and honestly? Both are good games. One is a finished product though, and the other is a game in progress. That said they are two widely different titles with much different objectives, and play styles. You could not, and should not compare Dust514 to any other game in all honesty; just as you should not base any other game against Dust514.
Just my opinion, but figures I'd throw it out there. |
Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:29:00 -
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Dust514 wont ship in a perfect state, that is for sure.
But, there are 2 important factors. CCP learned a lot how to develop a game. The stance and strategy they adopted in last 2 years is really amazing. Another thing is that CCP really cares and listens to their player base.
When u combine those 2 facts, in no time DUST514 will reach the polish of all other games, but all other games will never reach the tactical levels, metagame, economy etc. that DUST 514 will have.
So in 1-2 years after the release, we will see masses of new players coming to our way. And we will have a big advantage, not SP advantage, that really doesn't meter in games like this. We will have the advantage of ropes and strings being in our hands ;)
So to all those haters. Bare with DUST 514, throw CCP some money here and there and in no time the FPS world community will have a perfect FPS. |
MR ExPresident
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
64
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Posted - 2013.01.31 20:03:00 -
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I'll start this post off by stating that I absolutely love the Battlefield games. Loved BFBC2 and still play BF3, although not as much due to playing Dust and a crappy schedule. That being said there are so many factors that go into this decision on whether Dust is a good game or not that it is almost pointless to argue it. I think a lot of it seriously boils down to people taking the time to recognize key differences, display constructive criticism where appropriate, and be aware of the state of each game. One of the biggest factors we are facing here is a larger community base on the battlelog website, which statistically will be dominated by younger kids, and as such we will see a lack of understanding, or time spent evaluating everything that we know about the games and comparing them.
With all that being said does the blame fall on CCP, the player, or the community? I honestly believe, in my humble opinion, that it falls on The Player -> CCP -> Community. I say this because CCP has a goal, and they know what it is. They know whether or not they will ever be able to pull off the polish that a game like BF3 has, or whether that is out of their reach. I do not however expect them to admit that openly because what company would? I think as BETA testers however we can use the game that we have, presenting it as fact, that CCP has a different goal in mind than say DICE does with BF3. I say this in the same way that I would by stating that Zipper had a different goal in mind with MAG then DICE did with BFBC2 and Zipper provided that as reasoning behind why MAG would never look as good as Battlefield, while expressing they offered deeper gameplay.
I think the individual player holds the most responsibility in not being ADD with their decision making process and the over abundance of FPS games we have and that they need to evaluate each game on its own merits. CCP on the other hand has not expressed that goal as of yet to my knowledge, but its apparent by the total number of players said to be in each match, the map sizes, and the level of character developement that it won't be as polished as Battlefield is, there just aren't enough system resources to do it, not on a console anyway. Do I think we have seen the final level of polish? Absolutely not and I think CCP will still surprise us with some eye candy, but I have no dreams of it being Battlefield.
As a community we need to accept our responsibility of providing constructive criticism in a way that helps CCP better reach their goals, our expectations, and to also be helpful in teaching new players that this game is very different from a typical FPS. Lets remember key issues:
1. DICE has NUMEROUS titles and experience working with consoles under their belt, let alone the PS3 architecture which is notorious for not being an easy developement platform.
2. CCP is working on their first console title, their first FPS, which is on that difficult to program platform. Go big or go home seems to fit here.
3. BF3 on consoles supports a max of 24 players in matches. Dust 514 is already above this. MAG was far above this and had very acceptable graphics, albeit not the "standard" of today's FPS games.
4. Graphics are not everything. Remember gameplay.
5. Do not forget that the behind the gameplay "play" , as in meta-game of Eve/Dust politics, is also a huge draw to this gaming and its universe. It will only attract certain types of people.
6. We are still in a BETA and because of that we must assume that there are more builds coming, more updates coming, and until then no real judgement can be made. Anyone who was in the BF3 BETA probably recalls how absolutely terrible that was. Being a Battlefield fan I nearly canceled my pre-order and wrote DICE a scathing email but thankfully they fixed the vast majority of those problems and I believe CCP will here as well.
7. Be honest with our expectations with whats available.
8. Have fun. Because if your not, then whats the point.
At any rate I think that Dust 514 has really good potential. It is definately not as smooth as it should be, reviving people or attempting to pisses me off, my character feels "stiff" when I navigate the terrain, the terrain is bleak and boring, and the sound isn't as involving as Battlefield 3. But its new and its in BETA. I'll reserve judgement until CCP says "this is it".
Now, concerning these graphics, lets party like its 1999 :) |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2013.01.31 20:04:00 -
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All this has not sense. Anyone will like more anything different. That's how the universe works. So simple. I love brunettes girls, you blondies. I like Dust 514, you like Battlefield 3. There is nothing wrong about it. The problem is that people wants to "impose" what they want., just like religions. "If you don't belive in what I said, you will go straight to the hell". "If you like Battlefield, you like to play newbies games and waste your money". "If you like Dust 514, you like to waste your time because there will be always someone with more SP or something like that".
This is a big "LOL" (and I don't know what it's mean because I'm from Argentina and I talk spanish, but a think it's a laugh). Just learn how to coexist. That's the key, the secret. COEXIST.
Sorry for the english. See you |
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
674
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Posted - 2013.01.31 20:13:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:
I play Battelfield3, and Dust514. I have played Dust514 for seven months now, and honestly? Both are good games. One is a finished product though, and the other is a game in progress. That said they are two widely different titles with much different objectives, and play styles. You could not, and should not compare Dust514 to any other game in all honesty; just as you should not base any other game against Dust514.
Just my opinion, but figures I'd throw it out there.
Yeah bf3 is a finished product, and they're still trying to fix things with patches etc, its still broke after over a year. Had they have released a proper beta instead of a demo with beta label then it may be decent.
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General Erick
Onslaught Inc
24
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Posted - 2013.01.31 20:35:00 -
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I was able to recruit some of my Battlefield Bros and they really like this game. |
Arc Brimstone
Stella Pulvis
4
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Posted - 2013.01.31 20:45:00 -
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I played BF3 for a long time and Bad Company 2 for an even longer time before that. They're good games, though BC2 was better than BF3, but they are nothing like DUST. I don't even begin to compare them because they are two completely different games going after different audiences. DUST if for someone who wants MMO game play in a FPS. BF3 wants the players that want absolutely nothing to do with persistence.
DUST will probably be my shooter until it closes down. I think it's very much like EVE in the sense that once you're hooked, they pretty much have you forever. Which is something I don't think many other shooters have going for them. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.01.31 20:59:00 -
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Battlefield is not great on consoles
Dust 514 > BF3 |
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