DUST Search - Newbunnys talking trash in Battlelog about Dust 514.

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Beast Beastlington wrote:

Razekial Flameclaw wrote:

I wonder how many people bashing the game that are used to polished games rememebr when 8 bit sprites were the pinnacle of good graphics

games wont always be for everybody

That's an absurd and pointless comparison. That was then, this is now. Now, shooters are expected to meet a certain criteria, that is why we have a host of also-rans with empty servers.

Brink, Section 8, Crysis 2, MOH.

That's just 4 games in the last year or so. There's more. All of those games have more technical polish that Dust currently does.

It's not a private club. If you think it doesn't need to make money to survive, you are loopy.

You never saw Brink in the first week after release, or worse - a review copy before the day-one patch.

IT. WASN'T. READY.

It certainly didn't have the level of polish DUST already has - and that lasted until AFTER release. DUST is still in beta. There are some things where "it's a beta" doesn't cut it, but this is an area where it's relevant.

Is DUST ready for release? No. Is it ready for open beta? Yes.

Personally, I find DUST more enjoyable than Battlefield 3. I'm not saying it's as polished. I'm not saying it's ready for release. I'm not saying that the current state of DUST is better than (or even as good as) BF3. But I still enjoy it more. Different games - sometimes even different games in the same genre - appeal to different people.


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Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 11:29:00 - [1] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: This game is for advanced shooters. We will always have kids/people who can not handle anything else than simple and therefor will keep on running around in circles playing mindless games like BF & COD. lol Hilariously absurd nonsense.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 12:02:00 - [2] - Quote Regis Mk V wrote: tribal wyvern wrote: Schazla wrote: I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player. I havn't touched bf3 since I started playing dust a year ago, bf3 just doesn't do it for me anymore. Dust is what bf3 SHOULD have been, frostbite 2 is just eye candy, it means nothing if the gameplay is not there. Are you really saying that Dust has better gameplay than BF3? Are you dumb or just plain stupid?! Blinded by rampant fanboyism perhaps. If Dust had the same core game-play as BF3 (with it's own flavour) it'd be unstoppable.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 12:15:00 - [3] - Quote For all you bleating sheep who think Dust is the perfect game, do yourselves a favour. Just for a minute, ONE minute, be objective. I implore you, I'm not denying that you can have fun with Dust. Look up a HD video of BF3, Planetside 2, Tribes Ascend or any other top level shooter on YouTube. Listen to the sound - listen to how much it adds to the atmosphere. Look at the graphics - smooth frame-rate = responsive controls. Look at the level of polish the game engine has in general. How professional things look, how cohesive an experience it all is. That's the level that Dust has to get to. It's not there right now. It's as simple as that. That's why your buddies are trashing it. Because they are used to polish and quality. Dust should probably still be in closed beta in its current state.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 12:26:00 - [4] - Quote The thing these hardcore wannabes don't seem to understand is that CCP would absolutely love this to have the accessibility of Halo, CoD and BF3. They're trying to get it to that level as much as possible. I'd bet a kidney on it.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 12:29:00 - [5] - Quote Razekial Flameclaw wrote: I wonder how many people bashing the game that are used to polished games rememebr when 8 bit sprites were the pinnacle of good graphics games wont always be for everybody That's an absurd and pointless comparison. That was then, this is now. Now, shooters are expected to meet a certain criteria, that is why we have a host of also-rans with empty servers. Brink, Section 8, Crysis 2, MOH. That's just 4 games in the last year or so. There's more. All of those games have more technical polish that Dust currently does. It's not a private club. If you think it doesn't need to make money to survive, you are loopy.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 12:43:00 - [6] - Quote Section 8 was a lot of fun. It's a real shame that game died off so quickly. I think it would have been the perfect template for Dust. It was tactical, futuristic and as you said, had a brilliant spawn mechanic. Some betas are rough, some are very polished. Hawken for instance (in open beta) is very polished at the moment. I wish CCP would communicate more often. It's so vague as to what the plan is, or where Dust is headed.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 12:51:00 - [7] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Beast Beastlington wrote: Razekial Flameclaw wrote: I wonder how many people bashing the game that are used to polished games rememebr when 8 bit sprites were the pinnacle of good graphics games wont always be for everybody That's an absurd and pointless comparison. That was then, this is now. Now, shooters are expected to meet a certain criteria, that is why we have a host of also-rans with empty servers. Brink, Section 8, Crysis 2, MOH. That's just 4 games in the last year or so. There's more. All of those games have more technical polish that Dust currently does. It's not a private club. If you think it doesn't need to make money to survive, you are loopy. You never saw Brink in the first week after release, or worse - a review copy before the day-one patch. IT. WASN'T. READY. It certainly didn't have the level of polish DUST already has - and that lasted until AFTER release. DUST is still in beta. There are some things where "it's a beta" doesn't cut it, but this is an area where it's relevant. Is DUST ready for release? No. Is it ready for open beta? Yes. Personally, I find DUST more enjoyable than Battlefield 3. I'm not saying it's as polished. I'm not saying it's ready for release. I'm not saying that the current state of DUST is better than (or even as good as) BF3. But I still enjoy it more. Different games - sometimes even different games in the same genre - appeal to different people. I did see it and it was a disaster. Thus, the servers are empty. That's my point. CCP are playing a dangerous game here. Open beta or not, FPS are very flaky these days. They jump from game to game quickly and if it doesn't reach expectations, then it's dead.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 13:08:00 - [8] - Quote Andrea Auroras wrote: Beast Beastlington wrote: For all you bleating sheep who think Dust is the perfect game, do yourselves a favour. Just for a minute, ONE minute, be objective. I implore you, I'm not denying that you can have fun with Dust. Look up a HD video of BF3, Planetside 2, Tribes Ascend or any other top level shooter on YouTube. Listen to the sound - listen to how much it adds to the atmosphere. Look at the graphics - smooth frame-rate = responsive controls. Look at the level of polish the game engine has in general. How professional things look, how cohesive an experience it all is. That's the level that Dust has to get to. It's not there right now. It's as simple as that. That's why your buddies are trashing it. Because they are used to polish and quality. Dust should probably still be in closed beta in its current state. so your compairing those finished games to dust? and also those vids are taken from PC's on max gfx. if dust was on the PC it'd prob have gfx of that quality. but alas it aint. Suck it up ffs. The sound is being worked on, EVERYTHING is being worked on. Please get some sense, WE ARE HERE TO BETA TEST THE F-ING GAME!! Use feedback, give the devs your views. \don't *****, be constructive. It's like discussing something with a cardboard box. You don't get it, do you? I understand that it's a work in progress, Joe Gamer who plays a few shooters here and there doesn't care. He wants it to be as good as his favorite shooter NOW. If it isn't he won't try it again. That's the point of this thread. We're discussing why people think Dust is a third rate, crappy shooter. Those are the reasons. It's because people expect a certain level of polish and Dust doesn't have it. If you can't see the constructive criticism in that alone for CCP, there's nothing I can do to help you.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 16:56:00 - [9] - Quote I wish I understood what is so complex about Dust compared to any other shooter. When it gets down to the nitty gritty, Skirmish mode is just a carbon copy of Battlefield's Conquest mode. The economy and drop suit customization aren't especially deep or complex at all. In game, you capture objectives and pew pew at the other team. The problem Dust has is that it's technically a good distance behind the others. I hope this supposed new build will address some of those complaints.