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Schazla WarRavens 159	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:40:00 - [1] - Quote I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 60	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:50:00 - [2] - Quote So what, they will keep on playing BF3 and then wait for BF4 and then BF5 and pay money for all the DLC they shove their throat while we get full free game with free expansions and free everything forever. :) Leave them be, ignorance is bliss.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 199	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:51:00 - [3] - Quote this was expected. People hate things they don't understand or are not good at.
Schazla WarRavens 159	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:55:00 - [4] - Quote +2
Toyis Winknife Ametat Security Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:03:00 - [5] - Quote its a different game than other fpss for sure,its lacking in some things right now but the math to it is solid and I find myself messing with suit builds more then I ever messed with builds in cod games or bf3,thinking some that dont like it now will come back to it later and stll hate on or not,besides I still jump on bf3 and have fun cus playing the same of anything will get old fast IMO,free is free and this is one f2p game thats a win n my book.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:04:00 - [6] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: So what, they will keep on playing BF3 and then wait for BF4 and then BF5 and pay money for all the DLC they shove their throat while we get full free game with free expansions and free everything forever. :) Leave them be, ignorance is bliss. im sorry, BF3 was awesome....in the begining...ok, i see your point
Schazla WarRavens 159	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:06:00 - [7] - Quote Everyone who has bettlelog, let's go> http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654490146552627/last/#post_2832654490146688947 I'm CIA.
Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 241	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:22:00 - [8] - Quote So now you people are saying that the new players' dislike of this game is their own fault. Not the game's fault...not the developer's fault...but their own fault because they...failed to force themselves to enjoy the game?... Are you guys for real? Like, does this sort of logic even exist outside of the internet?
Avinash Decker BetaMax. 25	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:26:00 - [9] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: So now you people are saying that the new players' dislike of this game is their own fault. Not the game's fault...not the developer's fault...but their own fault because they...failed to force themselves to enjoy the game?... Are you guys for real? Like, does this sort of logic even exist outside of the internet? It's really sad that this community can be pretty petty and pathetic like that.
Groza Tragediya Opus Arcana Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:32:00 - [10] - Quote Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower to win a fire fight. In this game you dont have to have reflexes nor mental acuity to win (as we can see with MANY of the "best" players) its more of an equipment war. You have higher armor so even though that player aims better and hits you more, you win because you can take more damage. Battlefield players would eat dusties alive if the field were even and everyone was forced to wear the same outfitting. Thankfully for all of you MMO players its an equipment thing so you dont have to be good, just farm isk and be better equipped. The way dust works.

Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 199	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:36:00 - [11] - Quote here we go.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 330	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:40:00 - [12] - Quote Groza Tragediya wrote: Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower to win a fire fight. In this game you dont have to have reflexes nor mental acuity to win (as we can see with MANY of the "best" players) its more of an equipment war. You have higher armor so even though that player aims better and hits you more, you win because you can take more damage. Battlefield players would eat dusties alive if the field were even and everyone was forced to wear the same outfitting. Thankfully for all of you MMO players its an equipment thing so you dont have to be good, just farm isk and be better equipped. The way dust works. Now You've gone and done it...
Groza Tragediya Opus Arcana Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:44:00 - [13] - Quote What? MMO players arnt use to having to out wit someone as opposed to having to spec a character better. They know if they have a level 20 weapon that level 5 noob stands no chance. In fps that level 5 noob can completely and utterly slaughter that level 20 if he reacts better and matches the reticle faster. Simple fact.
Toyis Winknife Ametat Security Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:49:00 - [14] - Quote Groza Tragediya wrote: Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower to win a fire fight. In this game you dont have to have reflexes nor mental acuity to win (as we can see with MANY of the "best" players) its more of an equipment war. You have higher armor so even though that player aims better and hits you more, you win because you can take more damage. Battlefield players would eat dusties alive if the field were even and everyone was forced to wear the same outfitting. Thankfully for all of you MMO players its an equipment thing so you dont have to be good, just farm isk and be better equipped. The way dust works. I play bf3 and now dust514,you need a different skill set for both games,Im sure most of us have played cod or bf games or other fps's so saying battlefield players would eat dusties sounds like you think players that play dust never played any other game but. I do kinda kick some ass at this game btw and its cus I know how to roll with the game mechanics and not wish I was playing another game,if I want bf3 I go play bf3,right now I want dust514 and it rocks.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 674	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:50:00 - [15] - Quote Schazla wrote: I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player. I havn't touched bf3 since I started playing dust a year ago, bf3 just doesn't do it for me anymore. Dust is what bf3 SHOULD have been, frostbite 2 is just eye candy, it means nothing if the gameplay is not there.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 199	Posted - 2013.01.29 08:05:00 - [16] - Quote I would say the biggest difference between dust and most other FPS's is that in other FPS's you seee someone you both fire and instantly someone wins that little battle between you two. In dust you can fire at each other, shields go down, someone runs and you can actually get away to fight again. To me there is more thought in this game, and skill. If there were heavies in BF3 or COD they would always win because you couldn't hit them and hide for a second, let your shields recharge, then hit them again till they die.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1904	Posted - 2013.01.29 08:14:00 - [17] - Quote Schazla wrote: I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player. Screw that business. I house face, all damn day, in an all militia shotgun scout fit, and tear **** up like it's no ones business (usually >_<) Also mind you, aside from a few crossover skills from my Heavy skills, I have no SP invested in anything shotgun or scout related. As you say: Hate the player.
Razekial Flameclaw ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.01.29 08:19:00 - [18] - Quote I agree overall, as a former BF2, 3 and BC player it takes a different set of skills to play both games, however you will always get people who say X is better then Y and Y is better than Z, personally for me, BF3 is far superior to COD (mainly becuase there is no team play or support aspect to COD) however Dust ticks the boxes of a support role, however I can get my kicks from kills as well from intelligent playing and not just i shot first and didnt encounter lag like COD. People will love a certain game or item will always vehemently defend a game, its a fact. Think of it like football (soccer for you wierd americans) I like one team, my father likes another one - i will always say my team is better than his - even though last time they met my team lost.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 199	Posted - 2013.01.29 08:23:00 - [19] - Quote Razekial Flameclaw wrote: I agree overall, as a former BF2, 3 and BC player it takes a different set of skills to play both games, however you will always get people who say X is better then Y and Y is better than Z, personally for me, BF3 is far superior to COD (mainly becuase there is no team play or support aspect to COD) however Dust ticks the boxes of a support role, however I can get my kicks from kills as well from intelligent playing and not just i shot first and didnt encounter lag like COD. People will love a certain game or item will always vehemently defend a game, its a fact. Think of it like football (soccer for you wierd americans) I like one team, my father likes another one - i will always say my team is better than his - even though last time they met my team lost. Very true, we like what we like and a lot of the time it comes down to " I like it because I like it".
Boomer Dues Mortis D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 40	Posted - 2013.01.29 09:03:00 - [20] - Quote Groza Tragediya wrote: Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower to win a fire fight. In this game you dont have to have reflexes nor mental acuity to win (as we can see with MANY of the "best" players) its more of an equipment war. You have higher armor so even though that player aims better and hits you more, you win because you can take more damage. Battlefield players would eat dusties alive if the field were even and everyone was forced to wear the same outfitting. Thankfully for all of you MMO players its an equipment thing so you dont have to be good, just farm isk and be better equipped. The way dust works. Imo I think Dust takes more strategy than Bf3, the reason being is in bf3 you could go toe to toe with any player and never had to think about it. Everyone had the same amount of health. In Dust everyone is different, and you need to play accordingly. My bf3 stats http://bf3stats.com/stats_ps3/Ix_Boomer_xI#ps3 My Dust K/d which means nothing is 5.2. What matters in these games is teamwork. Teamwork and strategy will beat people with better gear. Each game is different and like others said most of us have come from different shooters, it is completely incorrect to say bf3 players would eat Dust players alive, because they are different games.

Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 811	Posted - 2013.01.29 09:31:00 - [21] - Quote Groza Tragediya wrote: Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower to win a fire fight. In this game you dont have to have reflexes nor mental acuity to win (as we can see with MANY of the "best" players) its more of an equipment war. You have higher armor so even though that player aims better and hits you more, you win because you can take more damage. Battlefield players would eat dusties alive if the field were even and everyone was forced to wear the same outfitting. Thankfully for all of you MMO players its an equipment thing so you dont have to be good, just farm isk and be better equipped. The way dust works. This is what people say when they aren't good at the game. The game mechanics aren't the same as the small handful of videogames you've played, and that's too much for you to handle. So instead, you just blow it off and claim it's because the game doesn't require skill. You sound like a 12 year old that got beat at dodgeball.
Denak Kalamari CrimeWave Syndicate 80	Posted - 2013.01.29 10:49:00 - [22] - Quote Who cares if a bunch of guys from Battlefield 3 trashtalk the game? Any real player who is interested about Dust shouldn't just blindly believe a single person and his opinion about the game, he should try the game himself or in the very least study from several sources.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2013.01.29 10:51:00 - [23] - Quote Just wait a few months doen the line they will creep back just like how eves player base keeps growing
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 165	Posted - 2013.01.29 10:57:00 - [24] - Quote In most fps games you play fps. In dust you play fps, gearing up and metagame. Gearing up will happen in the time it takes you to master the fps. Metagame requires some thought: who do you fight for, in what way do you compete, and what is your chosen path to greatness.
Sir Petersen Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2013.01.29 11:04:00 - [25] - Quote This game is for advanced shooters. We will always have kids/people who can not handle anything else than simple and therefor will keep on running around in circles playing mindless games like BF & COD.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2013.01.29 11:08:00 - [26] - Quote Groza Tragediya wrote: Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower to win a fire fight. In this game you dont have to have reflexes nor mental acuity to win (as we can see with MANY of the "best" players) its more of an equipment war. You have higher armor so even though that player aims better and hits you more, you win because you can take more damage. Battlefield players would eat dusties alive if the field were even and everyone was forced to wear the same outfitting. Thankfully for all of you MMO players its an equipment thing so you dont have to be good, just farm isk and be better equipped. The way dust works. In that case, explain how I had a positive K/D and a positive W/L ratios while playing alone and never using anything better than Standard gear on a brand-new alt just before the reset when everyone was still in Proto gear? Explain how I killed a Gunnlogi and three Sagas with an all-Militia fitted Sica? Explain how the good players win when competing against other players in good gear? GOOD players in DUST 514 are good. EXPERIENCED players aren't necessarily GOOD players. And good players in BF/CoD/Resistance/Halo/that other shooter you like aren't necessarily good players in DUST 514. There are several possible reasons for someone to not enjoy the game. 1. They don't like shooters. 2. They legitimately don't like DUST 514 as a concept or dislike important elements of its execution. 3. They somehow have the impression that this is another twitch shooter, and aren't willing to adapt to something different. 4. They think the SP/Gear gap breaks the game. 5. They're disappointed in the graphics or other elements of the game which are still being worked on. Obviously, 1 and 2 are fine. Some people just aren't going to like DUST 514 because it isn't the right game for them. The problem is in 3 - 5. These causes, broad as they are, have seen a LOT of players coming in and basically using these "problems" as a counter to their inability to perform. It pretty much is a case of "I suck at the game so it's bad" in some ways - but not necessarily that simple. The biggest consideration is actually POSITIONING, not SP, gear or even the combination of the two. Being in the right place at the right time makes MUCH more difference than what you're wearing AND how long you've been playing combined.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 72	Posted - 2013.01.29 11:14:00 - [27] - Quote Quote: Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower to win a fire fight. In this game you dont have to have reflexes nor mental acuity to win (as we can see with MANY of the "best" players) its more of an equipment war. You have higher armor so even though that player aims better and hits you more, you win because you can take more damage. Battlefield players would eat dusties alive if the field were even and everyone was forced to wear the same outfitting. Thankfully for all of you MMO players its an equipment thing so you dont have to be good, just farm isk and be better equipped. The way dust works. Meh, i played BF3 allot and there i end up top 1 pretty much each game, walking trough 4-5 people without much issue, its no different in Dust where i can still walk trough 4-5 people the same way (Raven Suit, rest all cheap Militia parts). The equipment factor works for both parties involved. Quote: Battlefield players are use to relying on reaction time and only a slight variance in firepower Should change that to, Battlefield players are use to relying on their closet cheats & hacks to win a fight, because PC shooters are infested with cheaters of all kinds, Wallhacks being the hardest ones to root out. If anyone played War Z recently, at some point it had 70% of its playerbase cheating, including 4 of my friends, i took a break until they got banned, so i wonder if they were legit in APB R or COD because they dont want to touch this console shooter. My guess is they cant cheat here, so they dont wanna play it.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.29 11:29:00 - [28] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: This game is for advanced shooters. We will always have kids/people who can not handle anything else than simple and therefor will keep on running around in circles playing mindless games like BF & COD. lol Hilariously absurd nonsense.
Regis Mk V Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2013.01.29 11:49:00 - [29] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Schazla wrote: I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player. I havn't touched bf3 since I started playing dust a year ago, bf3 just doesn't do it for me anymore. Dust is what bf3 SHOULD have been, frostbite 2 is just eye candy, it means nothing if the gameplay is not there. Are you really saying that Dust has better gameplay than BF3? Are you dumb or just plain stupid?!
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2013.01.29 12:02:00 - [30] - Quote Schazla wrote: I am trying to convince them if they play as a team and get better gear and PTFO you would like the game. Idiots won't even listen. Don't hate the game, hate the player. First off, stop using the word bunny to describe yourself, it's embarrassing. Secondly, those posters are %100 correct. This is not a good game right now, stop tryingh to get hardened bf3 players to play this under developed beta. That one dude said it: this is pre alpha halo meets unreal tournament still. I hope it changes but you better face the truth if you want the game to get better



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